[Definitive] Nintendo Wii Thread

[blowMeNeo]

why is everybody complaining.

This argument is extrem;y extremely stupid.

the rev can still be played on an hdtv sop why argue about it?

this is a pointless argument that only fanboys of each system make.

ugh

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AGREED!!

[blowMeNeo]

I really couldn't care less if it had HD or not, it won't change me from getting this console.. i didn't own a console in the previous generation, i seem to get one every second generation.  the revolution is looking very attractive purely because of its controller, it will give something new to gaming in what has otherwise become a very boring was to pass time for me.  im really looking forward to the revolution and the lack of HD has little impact on me as i see the controller as the most important reason to play games. 

i was some good fun, not serious games.  if that makes me a kid then so be it but im a pretty old one at that.  if my old nes would still work from when i was actually a kid i would still play that today even on a 42" plasma (if i had one) i don't care for graphics i just want them to make good games that use that controller.

im not saying you can't have both but as long as the game is fun i don't care too much about graphics, my favourite game is still probably mario bros on the nes and then maybe zelda or something on the n64

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Also, being $100-$200 less per system is nice too! :)

[fukachu]

I really couldn't care less if it had HD or not, it won't change me from getting this console.. i didn't own a console in the previous generation, i seem to get one every second generation. the revolution is looking very attractive purely because of its controller, it will give something new to gaming in what has otherwise become a very boring was to pass time for me. im really looking forward to the revolution and the lack of HD has little impact on me as i see the controller as the most important reason to play games.

i was some good fun, not serious games. if that makes me a kid then so be it but im a pretty old one at that. if my old nes would still work from when i was actually a kid i would still play that today even on a 42" plasma (if i had one) i don't care for graphics i just want them to make good games that use that controller.

im not saying you can't have both but as long as the game is fun i don't care too much about graphics, my favourite game is still probably mario bros on the nes and then maybe zelda or something on the n64

[User6060]

Nintendo doesn't play to win anymore. They show up because they're expected to. All these "innovations" (think DS, Revoulution controller) are extremely risky and I can only see Nintendo's very well established and aging userbase keeping it alive.

[Hankyone]

am i the only one who taught HD = Hard Disk :unsure:

personaly i don't care

[blowMeNeo]

Nintendo doesn't play to win anymore. They show up because they're expected to. All these "innovations" (think DS, Revoulution controller) are extremely risky and I can only see Nintendo's very well established and aging userbase keeping it alive.

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My 12 year old has a Gamecube as does 6 of his friends. So I guess your age thing is right on. NOT!

[iconboy]

and i ask you would you not play a game if its not in HD? you havent had a choice for years but now you wont take anything less?

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um, we didnt have a console with a harddrive until the xbox, we didnt have a game system that also played dvds until the ps2, we didnt even have a game system that really used CDs until the psx (the sega cd was an addon)- its called progress, so whats your point? Just because Nintendo says i shouldnt have something, i shouldnt? pleaseee

if it were upto Nintendo we would all still be playing consoles using cartridges and never realising console online multiplayer fun.

[thecableguy]

whats next gen about it..the remote??

[christracy]

i disagree with that.? computer games have had that kind of resolution for years.? that's what people have been playing for years.? when we've played console games it's been like, it would be great if it looked as good as the pc version.? I think the what makes most people upset is that now when there is a chance to bring new tech and quality of graphics to consoles, Nintendo is saying no no you don't need that.

It's perfectly understandable for people to not want to choose a system that doesn't give them that choice, so it's a pretty dumb argument to say you couldn't choose it before right cry now.? The whole point is now you can make the choice, now more people do have the HD tv sets and want to fully take advantage of it, so they would be understandbly upset if somebody doesn't want to fully support their new technology.

I will/would still play a game that's out now and that has been released in years past without HD graphics because I accepted those games as they were.? But now from this point forward, now that I have a HD set and have a selection of HD games to choose from, I wouldn't choose a system that doesn't support HD resolutions.? Just like I wouldn't choose a system that doesn't support dolby digital surround sound, it's the same principle.

You're making a that was then this is now argument.?? Just because people didn't have a choice about extra features and stuff when VHS was king and dvd first came out, doens't mean that shouldn't complain now when those movies don't have those features.?? That might have been acceptable in the past, but now it isn't.

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all i am saying is that those who say they wont buy the rev because it doesnt have HD are superfical and short-sighted. superfical becuase it has to be HD or nothing else and short-sighting because the game still will play on their TV. its not like they will have to drag out their old analog TV just to play the rev.

it may not be acceptable to a percentage of people but a greater number of people are willing to accept the choice because it doesnt degrade their overall experience as much as it does to others. its a treat to have HD, but with or without doesnt matter imo.

edit: iconboy i added this after i saw your response right above mine so it seems out of order. i hate it when i type a response while getting a :pinch:e. :pinch:

um, we didnt have a console with a harddrive until the xbox, we didnt have a game system that also played dvds until the ps2, we didnt even have a game system that really used CDs until the psx (the sega cd was an addon)- its called progress, so whats your point?? Just because Nintendo says i shouldnt have something, i shouldn

if it were upto Nintendo we would all still be playing consoles using cartridges and never realising console online multiplayer fun.

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i'm not saying you shouldn't but i'm asking you is it that much of a deal breaker? i mean if it is you could be missing some great games because of that criteria and basically i wonder would you relent or stick to that criteria?

Edited November 28, 2005 by christracy

[iconboy]

all i am saying is that those who say they wont buy the rev because it doesnt have HD are superfical and short-sighted.  superfical becuase it has to be HD or nothing else and short-sighting because the game still will play on their TV.  its not like they will have to drag out their old analog TV just to play the rev. 

it may not be acceptable to a percentage of people but a greater number of people are willing to accept the choice because it doesnt degrade their overall experience as much as it does to others.  its a treat to have HD, but with or without doesnt matter imo.

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ummmmm i dont think anyone is saying they will pass up the rev because its not HD, but we are bitchinngg about the fact that it lacks it. I for one am really starting to like the idea of the new control and the possible low price :)

[pixlnet]

Nintendo is the only company right now that actually "gets" gaming. Xbox360 is focused on pretty pictures and online gaming. PS3 seems to be worried about creating pretty pictures. I think after playing a game with high end graphics, you tend to get tired of it and actually want a fun challenge and a lot of "new things". New levels, new games, just things you haven't seen before. One thing I noticed too is that these damn games have gotten too complex. You need to spend a ton of time to figure out how the damn thing works. And most of the time you're playing just because you want to kind of turn your mind off from every day BS/stress.

About the forum topic regarding HD. HD right now is a marketing tool to sell new expensive televisions. Cable companies aren't ready, movie studios aren't ready, heck not even HD DVD's are ready. The amount of people that own a HDTV in the US is below 10%. I don't care who says its above 30% and growing rapidly or whatever, it's BS. Take a sample of ten houses from around your neighborhood and tell me how many people own an HD television. Not very many....

I like the revolution because they are getting back to the basics, the core principles of a good game. Their controller will be great for interaction, remember duck hunt? pong?, they'll have more than 20 years of games ready for enjoyment, the system won't be very expensive, and most importantly is the games will be simple!

If you spend over 3 to 4 hours a night, spend 20% of your salary on television and gaming, then yea maybe the PS3 or Xbox360 will be cool. But for anyone looking for some quick simple fun that doesn't want to break the bank, I'd definetely check out the revolution.

[iconboy]

Nintendo is the only company right now that actually "gets" gaming. Xbox360 is focused on pretty pictures and online gaming. PS3 seems to be worried about creating pretty pictures. I think after playing a game with high end graphics, you tend to get tired of it and actually want a fun challenge and a lot of "new things". New levels, new games,  just things you haven't seen before. One thing I noticed too is that these damn games have gotten too complex. You need to spend a ton of time to figure out how the damn thing works. And most of the time you're playing just because you want to kind of turn your mind off from every day BS/stress.

About the forum topic regarding HD. HD right now is a marketing tool to sell new expensive televisions. Cable companies aren't ready, movie studios aren't ready, heck not even HD DVD's are ready. The amount of people that own a HDTV in the US is below 10%. I don't care who says its above 30% and growing rapidly or whatever, it's BS. Take a sample of ten houses from around your neighborhood and tell me how many people own an HD television. Not very many....

I like the revolution because they are getting back to the basics, the core principles of a good game. Their controller will be great for interaction, remember duck hunt? pong?, they'll have more than 20 years of games ready for enjoyment, the system won't be very expensive, and most importantly is the games will be simple!

If you spend over 3 to 4 hours a night, spend 20% of your salary on television and gaming, then yea maybe the PS3 or Xbox360 will be cool. But for anyone looking for some quick simple fun that doesn't want to break the bank, I'd definetely check out the revolution.

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uhhh and what exactly was the great innovative difference between the gamecube and n64?..... prettier pictures.

[firebud]

um, we didnt have a console with a harddrive until the xbox, we didnt have a game system that also played dvds until the ps2, we didnt even have a game system that really used CDs until the psx (the sega cd was an addon)- its called progress, so whats your point?  Just because Nintendo says i shouldnt have something, i shouldnt? pleaseee

if it were upto Nintendo we would all still be playing consoles using cartridges and never realising console online multiplayer fun.

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If it weren't for Nintendo we wouldn't have the analog stick, directional pad, shoulder buttons, and rumble. Yeah, they sure aren't a progressive company .. dumb ass.

We have DVD's and the WiFi connection now.

Quit complaining about the past, and get on with it.

[Bant Veteran]

if it were upto Nintendo we would all still be playing consoles using cartridges and never realising console online multiplayer fun.

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nintendo was never against using cd's or dvd's as a medium to hold their games, and neither were they against bringing consoles online. nintendo has always been about timing, waiting for the right time to implement these new features keeps them afloat, its why they can make affordable consoles with near the power of the competition while continuing to make a profit.

you need to check yourself iconboy, nintendo always does what they believe is in the best interest of the mass market. unfortunately the mass market is blind of this, and always opts for the flashy expensive stuff that only a fraction of the people can take advantage of.

[Oogle]

uhhh and what exactly was the great innovative difference between the gamecube and n64?..... prettier pictures.

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Great wireless controllers.

[blowMeNeo]

uhhh and what exactly was the great innovative difference between the gamecube and n64?..... prettier pictures.

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The disks are less expensive to make and a nice side effect is that it does offer a nicer picture. So, what's your point?

[stadsport]

um, we didnt have a console with a harddrive until the xbox, we didnt have a game system that also played dvds until the ps2, we didnt even have a game system that really used CDs until the psx (the sega cd was an addon)- its called progress, so whats your point?  Just because Nintendo says i shouldnt have something, i shouldnt? pleaseee

if it were upto Nintendo we would all still be playing consoles using cartridges and never realising console online multiplayer fun.

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It wasn't until the NES that we had a D-Pad. It wasn't until the SNES that we had shoulder buttons, the N64 brought analog stick and rumble. Don't act like Nintendo hasn't contributed to the video game world.

whats next gen about it..the remote??

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Or the fact it'll be released within the next generation.

uhhh and what exactly was the great innovative difference between the gamecube and n64?..... prettier pictures.

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Yeah, pretty much. And that's why it mostly flopped. Nintendo's strength is in its innovation. The Gamecube didn't really do anything new.

Really, the SNES didn't do much new either, but something about it made game developers just have to make great games :/

I really can't understand why somebody would look at a video game console and say "Oh, I wouldn't buy that, the graphics aren't even mindblowing!" The videogame industry has become terrible in recent years. Games focus on more complexity, more graphics, more pretty. But most completely neglect gameplay. But a few years from now, when everyone's gotten over the whole "holy crap HD graphics!" thing...then what? You're left with pretty much nothing. Are we playing these games, or watching them?

[majortom1981]

I see we have a whole bunch of fanboys that convieniently leave out a lot of facts.

the playstation was originally an attachment for the snes i think. So nintendo tried with cds.

People also complain too much.

you guys do realise that the rev will still plasy on hdtvs

THE demos that ign and everybody else played themselves were on hdtv plasma screens.

I dont understand the big fuss. they dont even know how it was connected to the tv so we dont know anything.

the nu64 was more powerful graphically then the ps and so was the gamecube than the ps2

now all of a sudden all the sony fanboys are hyporites. first it was the games are better who cares that the ps2's graphics are worse. now it omg the ps3 will kick the revs you know what because the graphics are better.

bunch of hypocrytes if you ask me.

[RootWind]

Well I guess Nintendo will be the first to market with the next-next-gen console (when HDTV's will be more mainstream).

The consoles from Microsoft and Sony will no doubt drive down the prices of HDTVs a lot faster than HD TV content, or HD-DVD, Blu-Ray alone would.

[blowMeNeo]

I see we have a whole bunch of fanboys that convieniently leave out a lot of facts.

the playstation was originally an attachment for the snes i think. So nintendo tried with cds.

People also complain too much.

you guys do realise that the rev will still plasy on hdtvs

THE  demos that ign and everybody else played themselves were on hdtv plasma screens.

I dont understand the big fuss. they dont even know how it was connected to the tv so we dont know anything.

the nu64 was more powerful graphically then the ps and so was the gamecube than the ps2

now all of a sudden all the sony fanboys are hyporites. first it was the games are better who cares that the ps2's graphics are worse. now it omg the ps3 will kick the revs you know what because the graphics are better.

bunch of hypocrytes if you ask me.

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Let me also add that about 90% of this country still has the standard 4:3 tv's. TV's that can't tell if a signal is HD or not.

[blowMeNeo]

Well I guess Nintendo will be the first to market with the next-next-gen console (when HDTV's will be more mainstream). 

The consoles from Microsoft and Sony will no doubt drive down the prices of HDTVs a lot faster than HD TV content, or HD-DVD, Blu-Ray alone would.

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What are you smoking? The tv manufacturers could care less wether you have an HD game console or not. Competition drives down prices, not your HD game console. Now your grasping at straws.

[Pc_Madness]

What are you smoking?  The tv manufacturers could care less wether you have an HD game console or not.  Competition drives down prices, not your HD game console.  Now your grasping at straws.

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I think he means due to sales ;) People buy a HD Console, and they want a HDTV to go give with it, thus competition, and in theory, lower prices :p

[blowMeNeo]

I think he means due to sales ;) People buy a HD Console, and they want a HDTV to go give with it, thus competition, and in theory, lower prices :p

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If that's what he meant, my apologies. People need to think before they type so that we understand what you're getting at. ;)

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News: Virtual Console Patent Uncovered?

A patent purportedly relating to the Revolution's game download feature has been found. Read how the service could work inside...

These days patents about Revolution features are popping up all the time - and not always turning out to be legitimate. This one (which you can see in full here was found by Revolution Report, and could detail how the Virtual Console feature would operate:

"According to the images and descriptions provided within the patent, when deciding to play and/or download a title, the player will select the game by platform or franchise. Also, for games existing without a definite franchise, the patent indicates an "other" tab to select from that may accommodate those particular titles.

When choosing a game, the player will apparently click once to bring up a screen displaying an outline of the game which uses animations, still pictures, a sentence description and/or sounds, and then click again to confirm the selection.

Particular downloaded games will prompt the player to choose a number of displayed characters before engaging in gameplay, perhaps even characters that might not be normally attributed to that particular game. This notion coincides with what Nintendo President Satoru Iwata said back in June, stating that Nintendo is "doing several experiments, including working with the original Super Mario Bros.," and that "the game itself and the gameplay shall be identical, but the look will be different; it's possible that with Revolution, we may be able to see the old games with new looks."

According to the patent, this technology will allow for older game programs to be supplied to the player at a low cost without the added burden of program-implanting costs for the game program maker. However, the patent in question does not further specify the exact meaning of "low cost."

For the NES and SNES consoles, those "extremely low in capability," the Revolution's CPU has the capacity to handle the processing of the downloaded game without the involvement of the GPU. No unnecessary re-coding is required to get downloadable games to work with this technology, according to the patent."

http://www.revo-europe.com/news.php?nid=8580

[stadsport]

If that's what he meant, my apologies.  People need to think before they type so that we understand what you're getting at.  ;)

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I understood it the first time. :/