Gelob Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 Well what site was the article talking about then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie_webbuk Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Well what site was the article talking about then... 586052766[/snapback] It's just eBull, don't believe everything you read on internet news sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larney Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Interesting news but don't put up some leak information unless you actually know what your talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminzsj Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Does it mean we're all switching to Mac OS X? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie_webbuk Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Does it mean we're all switching to Mac OS X? :D 586052892[/snapback] Er... not yet. Give it at least a week before the dev machines ship, someone will leak a DVD image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AQUaDeX Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Er... not yet. Give it at least a week before the dev machines ship, someone will leak a DVD image. 586052904[/snapback] It's supposed to be pre-installed on the machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okidoki Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 It's supposed to be pre-installed on the machines 586053014[/snapback] Yeah, and then when you have to reinstall OSX because your PRE-RELEASE operating system, along with your ALPHA/BETA quality software fudges up the harddrive, you.. ship the system back to apple? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie_webbuk Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) It's supposed to be pre-installed on the machines 586053014[/snapback] Er... all Apple systems, even Dev units come with DVD's of the OS incase you need to reinstall, which is quite likely from a Alpha/beta/dev machine. EVEN IF they don't ship the DVD you can extract the OS from the hard drive with a drive image and install it on another machine. It's all possible. <<<FLAME REMOVED>>> - shockz Edited June 12, 2005 by shockz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fukachu Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 jesus people.. why you gotta jump down the guys throat. he didnt know give him a break. one thing i didnt like that i found is that this is a once off build for developers.. i hope thats not true and they get updates too.. would suck if you guys use this and cant update :p i love my mac :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okidoki Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 jesus people.. why you gotta jump down the guys throat. he didnt know give him a break.one thing i didnt like that i found is that this is a once off build for developers.. i hope thats not true and they get updates too.. would suck if you guys use this and cant update :p i love my mac :) 586053166[/snapback] If he'd say "I believe..", then it's one thing. The way he said it though left no room for other possibilities, eg. he's pretending to be "in the know". He made a statement that quite simply didn't make sense, considering the volatile nature of application-porting. Leaving devs with no way of restoring their system would be a *major* logistics headache for apple. In other words, it should be pointed out that he doesn't have a clue, and that his post should be disregarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlmodell Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 i dont need no stinking updates, just gimme mac os x.4.1 to play with. xD that darn article is such a tease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie_webbuk Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 jesus people.. why you gotta jump down the guys throat. he didnt know give him a break.one thing i didnt like that i found is that this is a once off build for developers.. i hope thats not true and they get updates too.. would suck if you guys use this and cant update :p i love my mac :) 586053166[/snapback] First of all, these n00bs need putting in their places. Secondly, I love my Mac too, so I don't care about updates for the x86 build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureLogic Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Does it even run on normal PC's? If so, why would Apple go through all the trouble providing a PC running Mac OS X 10.4.1 Intel that has to be returned in December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 If it's x86 it should work on amd too, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loc[a]lhost Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 maybe now i'll be thankful to have that integrated Intel graphics card :p I hope it works with my old 845G chipset though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted June 12, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 12, 2005 I'm pretty sure it hasn't leaked, if it has, it's a Apple employee who did it. and, if it has leaked, i'm sure it will run on amd cpu's, only problem is if it used Intel specific features (like how code that used MMX wouldn't work on AMD cpu's, without MMX) i would love to try it, but basically all it is is Tiger, on intel cpu's, it's not some special alpha build of 10.5, it's just a intel build of 10.4.1, with the debug flag set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 jesus people.. why you gotta jump down the guys throat. he didnt know give him a break.one thing i didnt like that i found is that this is a once off build for developers.. i hope thats not true and they get updates too.. would suck if you guys use this and cant update :p i love my mac :) 586053166[/snapback] I love your Mac too, Twice each night. :rofl: But seriously, even if it has not been leaked yet it will eventually and I do doubt it will work on an AMD system, I'm going to put down some simple reasons I think there could be complications in the coming weeks. No nVidia / ATi Graphic drivers only Intel integrated graphics drives. You know how some Linux Distro's have 2 different versions 1 for Intel 1 for AMD A64? Apple would not have any support for A64, there using Intel. Just my 2 thoughts on this, but if a version does get leaked (which it no doubt will) we should be able to install it in Virtual PC ok this is like PearPC but because its not changing the whole architecture to another processor the emulation should in practice be much smoother. Either that or build an Intel system Identical to that of the Apple Dev kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalslacker Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 jobs has stated that they have no plans to make the transition to allow Mac OS to run on a non-mac system. That move doesn't make sense when you break it down. Mac can use their Hardware to sell their software and their software to sell their hardware. I would bet that is a postion that Bill Gates wishes microsoft had the ability to be in. That isn't to say that at some point in the future as the dynamics of this business changes as it always does that apple and jobs won't step back and re-evaluate this as an option. just my thoughts. I wouldn't doubt though that someone might come up with a way of making Mac for PC work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intersect Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 the URL from the 1st page isnt working, can some one post a translated link please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted June 12, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 12, 2005 No nVidia / ATi Graphic drivers only Intel integrated graphics drives. 586053188[/snapback] damn good point You know how some Linux Distro's have 2 different versions 1 for Intel 1 for AMD A64? Apple would not have any support for A64, there using Intel. 586053188[/snapback] Thats because the AMD64 distro is 64bit code, whereas the intel one is most likely 32bit, when 64Bit intel chips become more mainstream, expect to see one 64bit distro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlmodell Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 im guessing drivers will be sparse;;; actually why can't i assume that the only drivers available will be the ones needed to run mac os x.4.1 on the dev kits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[idkfa] Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Now that makes sense.Also, S.Jobs announced that ALL Mac OS X builds were designed to run on an Intel chip, this may be a very stupid question, but if that's the case - then could one purchase 10.4 and install it on an Intel PC? (not at default installation, but let's say...modified) - is it likely to work? I'm not asking for warez information - just a simple yay or nay to this query. 586053219[/snapback] No, all Intel builds were internal, meaning they never got shipped. The builds you can buy are all compilt for PPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 so can this Version of OSX work on say my current PC with P4 3.0 ghz Intel 865GLC motherboard? Or is it only certain chipsets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qumahlin Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Now that makes sense.Also, S.Jobs announced that ALL Mac OS X builds were designed to run on an Intel chip, this may be a very stupid question, but if that's the case - then could one purchase 10.4 and install it on an Intel PC? (not at default installation, but let's say...modified) - is it likely to work? I'm not asking for warez information - just a simple yay or nay to this query. 586053219[/snapback] No, what Steve Jobs meant is INTERNALLY they have kept an x86 up to date copy of OSX for each release... they've been doing this since OSX was first released because Jobs is no idiot, he knew eventually PPC was going to be phased out of Apples future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjmUK Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 You know how some Linux Distro's have 2 different versions 1 for Intel 1 for AMD A64? Apple would not have any support for A64, there using Intel. Now that makes sense. Also, S.Jobs announced that ALL Mac OS X builds were designed to run on an Intel chip, this may be a very stupid question, but if that's the case - then could one purchase 10.4 and install it on an Intel PC? (not at default installation, but let's say...modified) - is it likely to work? I'm not asking for warez information - just a simple yay or nay to this query. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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