Happy Slap Rape of Girl, 11

[Bhav]

I want to say "happy slapping should be illegal" - but it already is, cos it's assault!

these people should be made an example of. they shuold be named and shamed, made to apologise to the families of the victims, and then locked up.

[Makeshift Hammer]

It isn't always the parents though. If you have rebelistic children they're going to do what they want no matter what (I see it everyday). A parrents influence can only go so far and then it becomes the childs responsiblity and when the children just plain don't care and have friends that just plain don't care they're going to do whatever they damn well please. Even though the parrent might have brought them up right it still comes down to what the child wants to do even though they know it's wrong at that age.

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Wow.......someone who actually has common sense posted here.

Oh, and it seems that no one even bothered to read the story they are so quick to comment on. The boys were 14, not 11. The girl was 11.

[Nose Nuggets]

It isn't always the parents though. If you have rebelistic children they're going to do what they want no matter what (I see it everyday). A parrents influence can only go so far and then it becomes the childs responsiblity and when the children just plain don't care and have friends that just plain don't care they're going to do whatever they damn well please. Even though the parrent might have brought them up right it still comes down to what the child wants to do even though they know it's wrong at that age.

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you think a child is born with the conception to be rebelious? then you might be just as nieve as the raping 14 year olds parents.

the instant that child comes out of the womb its your responcebility to teach it right and wrong. maybe once the kid is 14 they have the abilitiy to rebel and do what they want. but the influance of its parents will efect that child more then anything else when they are young, and it counts.

young is born to age 6. once there 6 its set. that kid is gana be how ever he is gana be. maybe you did it right, maybe you ****** up, regardless he apon the world to do as he wills.

[HistoricalNeowin]

It isn't always the parents though. If you have rebelistic children they're going to do what they want no matter what (I see it everyday). A parrents influence can only go so far and then it becomes the childs responsiblity and when the children just plain don't care and have friends that just plain don't care they're going to do whatever they damn well please. Even though the parrent might have brought them up right it still comes down to what the child wants to do even though they know it's wrong at that age.

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A child isn't born with an attitude or personality, they gain it from experiencing life, it is molded based on their surroundings....aka their parents and the people they interact with, parents can control who they interact with so parents are in control...

[Groovedude]

like the poor dude that got set on fire at the bus stop. :| this was claimed to be of the happy slap craze.

[Smit]

A chav doesnt really have an american equivilent from what I have seen of americans.

Chav:

They are aged between 8 and 25 usually.

They like to where all sports clothes (which look crap), hoods, hats etc.

They think going round in groups and hanging on street corners is fun.

They take the **** out of everyone different.

They go around trying to make trouble out of anything. eg You walk pass them and they will taunt "Goth, Grunger etc." or say "What you looking at" to start trouble.

Once I was alseep on my gf's shoulder when one tried to say "What you looking at blud" to me. wtf? I was asleep!

They think that mugging people is fine.

They find that mindless violence and criminal damage is fine.

They usually come from council estates and poor families. I come from a poor family and dont act like this. Its not a good excuse although they use it.

[kyro]

the already degraded western culture .. hits new low.

[Sensayshun]

rofl!!!!

ive been flogging the bishop since i was 11.  i dont think seeing a dude a chic get it on is negativly influincing me.

having sex, or watching a porn, is a lot difernt the watching a rape.

you would rather let your kid see a flic with 2 people killing each other then a flic with 2 people having sex?

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I think if they did have harsher regulations (so only weedy computer geeks who could never commit rape coz they'd get beaten up by the women) could see it, it would help.

And I'd rather have my (imaginary) kid watch two people having sex than two people killing each other. But that doesn't seem to be the way the world works these days. WWF (WWE) used to be shown at 4:15pm every day all my mates used to watch it and one kid at my school got sent to a & e with a broken neck because of it, everyone was always out in the playground, smacking each other in.

And also, some pr0n is just wrong, if you go on some of the newsgroups (obviously not speaking from experience) and go on some perfectly legal, nothing to be ashamed of normal pr0n you'll end up heaped with obviously uinder age, and obviously not happy about what they're being forced to do, pictures, and films.

It's disgusting, I'd seen sex on TV when I was really young, but under age and essentially rape, is just wrong. There really ought to be harsher penalties but not the death penalty, because I don't agree with it.

[Nose Nuggets]

A chav doesnt really have an american equivilent from what I have seen of americans.

Chav:

They are aged between 8 and 25 usually.

They like to where all sports clothes (which look crap), hoods, hats etc.

They think going round in groups and hanging on street corners is fun.

They take the **** out of everyone different.

They go around trying to make trouble out of anything. eg You walk pass them and they will taunt "Goth, Grunger etc." or say "What you looking at" to start trouble.

Once I was alseep on my gf's shoulder when one tried to say "What you looking at blud" to me. wtf? I was asleep!

They think that mugging people is fine.

They find that mindless violence and criminal damage is fine.

They usually come from council estates and poor families. I come from a poor family and dont act like this. Its not a good excuse although they use it.

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oh my god... they sound like little punks. people are to passive these days.

there are people just like that here. high school kids hanging out in the local fast food joint's parking lot. god, ill pull in and get a box of chicken nuggets just so they do talk ****.

nothing i like more then punking a punk.

[curme]

With all of the attacks being reported by the media in the UK, it sounds like a lawless wasteland. I'm a 6'2" 33-year old Iraqi war veteran, and even I don't want to go to the UK now, for fear of being assaulted as I walk down the street. Maybe that's when Blair will do something. When tourist see these attacks daily on tv, and are scared to go to the UK for vacation.

[cravenbw]

I wasn't implying that they were born rebellious. Do you go with your children to school everyday? Do you know who your kids are playing with on the playground everyday? Do you know who they sit with and listen to stories from as they get older about the cool things they've done? This is what you cannot control and believe it or not a kid learns more of their values nowadays from their friends instead of their parents. You can only control your kids to a certain extent, then the population gets them and all of the "molding" you may think you did can be thrown out in a second the first time your kids experience something.

[HistoricalNeowin]

I wasn't implying that they were born rebellious. Do you go with your children to school everyday? Do you know who your kids are playing with on the playground everyday? Do you know who they sit with and listen to stories from as they get older about the cool things they've done? This is what you cannot control and believe it or not a kid learns more of their values nowadays from their friends instead of their parents. You can only control your kids to a certain extent, then the population gets them and all of the "molding" you may think you did can be thrown out in a second the first time your kids experience something.

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If the people they go to school with are brought up well too, then there no problem, stick two twats in with the bunch and half the class gets infected with stupidity

[Spike101M69]

Exactly, unfortunatly the current generation of parents all think that mindless violence/mugging/rape/drugs are fine for their kids.

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that is the stupidist thing i've ever heard.

[Smit]

I think im going to move soon after i finish college.

The area I live in is just full of chavs. Some friends and I petioned the council for a skatepark to be built.

What do they do? Build it right in the middle of where all the chavs live.

What happens? When you go its full of chavs messing about. They dont use it, they just vandalise it.

Its the place an 8 year old pulled knife on me. What the hell am i supposed to do to an 8yo? If I had punched him etc. I would be in trouble not him. Luckily I just walked away and he was to chicken to use it.

[Nose Nuggets]

I wasn't implying that they were born rebellious. Do you go with your children to school everyday? Do you know who your kids are playing with on the playground everyday? Do you know who they sit with and listen to stories from as they get older about the cool things they've done? This is what you cannot control and believe it or not a kid learns more of their values nowadays from their friends instead of their parents. You can only control your kids to a certain extent, then the population gets them and all of the "molding" you may think you did can be thrown out in a second the first time your kids experience something.

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like i said, up untill about age 6 90% of there influance is form parents. then there out in the world. exposed to more on a daily bases then a group of people could monitor. if you start them off on the good foot then chances are they will be fine. its parents parents parents.

[Smit]

that is the stupidist thing i've ever heard.

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From where I live, every chavs parents I have met/seen are either drunk or drugged, have 5+ kids and let them run riot.

[theyarecomingforyou]

I wasn't implying that they were born rebellious. Do you go with your children to school everyday? Do you know who your kids are playing with on the playground everyday? Do you know who they sit with and listen to stories from as they get older about the cool things they've done? This is what you cannot control and believe it or not a kid learns more of their values nowadays from their friends instead of their parents. You can only control your kids to a certain extent, then the population gets them and all of the "molding" you may think you did can be thrown out in a second the first time your kids experience something.

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But the parents have most influence. Most of these kids are out playing in the streets unsupervised from the age of 7 onwards. Your parenting should be strong enough that a kid can understand right from wrong and use that to make judgements from an early age - if they can't do that by the age of 14 then yes, the parents have failed (nothing to do with the kids being rebellious).

If you watch programs in the UK then you can see how bad parents often are - there are some parenting programs where the parents are in tears because they don't want to hear their children cry and can't tell them off because it makes them feel bad... and these children are only 2-3. Pathetic, yet it is these people that are breeding most. :no:

[HistoricalNeowin]

From where I live, every chavs parents I have met/seen are either drunk or drugged, have 5+ kids and let them run riot.

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Same thing is true here :( They're essentially chavs with welfare and kids, the harrowing thing is when i think about it, my parents, unwillingly, pay for them to be here with their tax!

[Joseph B]

It amazes me, how far none of us of got... From squealing about who is wrong or not about something that really shouldn't be argued over. The girl was raped and there is evidence. They'll get what the "system" thinks is justice over there... And that is all there really is to it. I am pretty sure no one here can change that.

Riots anyone? :D

[HistoricalNeowin]

It amazes me, how far none of us of got... From squealing about who is wrong or not about something that really shouldn't be argued over. The girl was raped and there is evidence. They'll get what the "system" thinks is justice over there... And that is all there really is to it. I am pretty sure no one here can change that.

Riots anyone?  :D

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Just because we can't change it doesn't mean we can just drop it though :(

[Joseph B]

Just because we can't change it doesn't mean we can just drop it though  :(

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I know the feeling, it is hard to let go-But honestly that sometimes is the best thing to do... :no:

[the_bearded_dope]

This is just terrible, it may sound silly but I think they should start putting an age limit for these camera mobile phones. Its getting rediculious, the government needs to sort out these scumbags.

[Nose Nuggets]

If you watch programs in the UK then you can see how bad parents often are - there are some parenting programs where the parents are in tears because they don't want to hear their children cry and can't tell them off because it makes them feel bad... and these children are only 2-3. Pathetic, yet it is these people that are breeding most. :no:

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are you ****ing serious?!?!?!

Just because we can't change it doesn't mean we can just drop it though

exactly

I know the feeling, it is hard to let go-But honestly that sometimes is the best thing to do... no.gif

i odnt think anything negative will come from us discussing what we think is wrong with the system and society

[IK47]

If you scared, don't get a dog, you gotta get a gun.

[Nose Nuggets]

This is just terrible, it may sound silly but I think they should start putting an age limit for these camera mobile phones. Its getting rediculious, the government needs to sort out these scumbags.

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again, how can you make the corilation that video phone = crime

im still strugling.

if they really wanted to tape it, they could go to ebay and get a high 8 recorder for 20 bucks

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