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Plastique, you're a f****** ****n.  Don't despair though.  Judging by the majority of comments in this thread, you're in with the majority crowd.

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you know, you're right. violence has never solevd anything. well....except for slavery. oh, and facisim. Also nazism. Oh! and in some parts communism.

but yea, other than those things, violence has never doen any good.

I really worry about the state of kids in our country today.. and that says something when it comes from me, a 24 year old.

Living in Coventry you see your fair share of useless, waster, tosspiece, chav losers.. believe me :|

I think they need to be made an example of. I'm not sure how. But the message has to get out that doing such things is not acceptable and committing these acts will ruin the rest of your life.

Kids with no moral conscience shouldn't be allowed to be society as adults. They should be treated like a plague that needs to be removed from civilization.

Im personally quite worried about the implication this has on the state of our education system. That a group of kids can think that sending video proof of themselves comitting a serious sexual assault to all the people at their school is a really smart idea really has me puzzled. I think that says a lot about them too. Either they are way too arrogant or just plain stupid.

Also yes coventry is full of chavs (another annoyed resident)

Im personally quite worried about the implication this has on the state of our education system. That a group of kids can think that sending video proof of themselves comitting a serious sexual assault to all the people at their school is a really smart idea really has me puzzled. I think that says a lot about them too. Either they are way too arrogant or just plain stupid.

Also yes coventry is full of chavs (another annoyed resident)

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Yeah, I live in Leamington and never go to Cov coz of the chavs... just can't stand looking at them... little pikey ****ers. man, i hate baseball caps with hoodies OVER them...

stupid little chav ****in' ass hats!

I never understood why happy slapping became popular, I mean, how stupid do you have to be to make film evidence of yourself committing a crime?

These kids do not need to be punished, they need to be educated, and made to go to university to study something that will make them think about what they have done.

Think about the 11 year old girl, think about how traumatised she is, and will be. She will be scared of sex for years.

I never understood why happy slapping became popular, I mean, how stupid do you have to be to make film evidence of yourself committing a crime?

These kids do not need to be punished, they need to be educated, and made to go to university to study something that will make them think about what they have done.

Think about the 11 year old girl, think about how traumatised she is, and will be. She will be scared of sex for years.

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No, they need their dick's chopped off.

THAT would teach them a lesson. Little peices of ****.

Exactly, unfortunatly the current generation of parents all think that mindless violence/mugging/rape/drugs are fine for their kids.

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Hmm Movies, Games, Music do not make people crazy its been around for years.

People cant be crazy no more and do stupid ish right? there is always a reason right?

For years upon years we do stupid things! blaming them on a video game or movie is irresponsible.

Japan has one some of the lowest crime rates period! fact!

They watch ish alot crazier then US or UK on a daily basis and rarley run into problems like this

but its still gross, i just cant remember a video game where you can rape and film a 11 years old girl

feel bad for the girl

insted of happy slaps prehaps drug dealers will start happy dealing. and sending there videos to the cops. just to tease them.

but happy slaping is realy retarted. i hope thoes guys get what they deserve. they show no remorse in videoing what they did.

:no:  :angry:

parents, teach your kids well. this is horrible.

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That's utter crap. No way in hell has this been because the parents didn't 'teach' their kids. Anyone in their right mind is 100% aware that rape is totally evil. No one needs educated to that fact. If you grow up in modern western civilisation it surrounds you. No matter what excuse is given, it's wrong, evil, and utterly disgusting. These kids don't need educated. Don't shift the blame from them to the parents. Sure, a kid who maybe bully's or is disruptive in class... that can be partly attributed to the parents some times. But rape?! No way. These kids need to have the fullest consequences taken on them. It's no one but them who's to blame for this intolerable crime.

insted of happy slaps prehaps drug dealers will start happy dealing. and sending there videos to the cops. just to tease them.

but happy slaping is realy retarted. i hope thoes guys get what they deserve. they show no remorse in videoing  what they did.

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:rofl: Happy dealing :rofl:

So, everyone living in fear is a desired result? Also, are you saying that the US doesn't have gang wars where people happily shoot each other? The US has over 10,000 gun deaths a year - guns are not going to help the UK, they would only make it a lot worse. This is a problem with western society, not the UK in particular - the US has its own different problems to deal with.

I don't like the way the UK is going, but copying the US is certainly not a way to go about easing our problems. :no:

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10 thousand out of a population of 300 million and remember the USA is huge, its not tiny England, and not bad really.

Also I Live in Los Angeles and there is very little gang related violence here.

It does happen of course, but it's not like it sounds like in England the way you people are describing things.

I personally blame it on TV, especially rappers and hip-hop artists.

It's seen as cool to be a thug, because in their music videos they have all the nice looking babes, cars and guns.

Thats my opinion, and when young kids see this they aspire to be like them and act and talk like them too .

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your ignorance astounds me :no:

The amount of ignorance here is astounding.

I blame TV, I blame the Parents, Video games, Porn, etc.... All just excuses.

First of all, every situation is different. Sometimes its the parents, sometimes its other factors.

I have a friend who turned bad after both of his parents were killed in a car crash. His family wouldnt take him in and he felt so rejected that he turned to crime. Whos fault is that?

Blaming the parents is easy, because nobody knows the situation. While I agree that parents do have a huge impact on kids at a younger age, in the teen years a huge impact comes from friends. And while its a parents responsibility to know who their children are spending time with, often its difficult to judge, especially if the bad kid/kids know how to be polite when necessary.

I got into a lot of trouble with the law when i was younger (though nothing violent), and i dont blame my parents at all. They had no clue i was doing anything, because i could lie my way out of a situation. I blame it on myself, for letting myself be influenced by the crowd i spent time with.

Basically i agree that parents are the root of the problem in a lot of cases, but you really have to dig deeper before making broad statements.

I think im going to move soon after i finish college.

The area I live in is just full of chavs. Some friends and I petioned the council for a skatepark to be built.

What do they do? Build it right in the middle of where all the chavs live.

What happens? When you go its full of chavs messing about. They dont use it, they just vandalise it.

Its the place an 8 year old pulled knife on me. What the hell am i supposed to do to an 8yo? If I had punched him etc. I would be in trouble not him. Luckily I just walked away and he was to chicken to use it.

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You can do anything you need to get that knife off him. He should not have a knife to start with. Once that knife is off him you walk away with the knife in your hand. Try not to hurt him, but do anything needed to avoid a nasty incident. The law states that you have the right to use only the neccasary amount of force to stop this kind of situation turning bad, even if it is a minor with the knife.

My personal thoughts on Chavs and out of control youths is this:

The law should now carry a dress code, code of public conduct, times that people under a certain age should not be allowed on the street and anyone who has been arrested for public violance should not be allowed out after a certain ammount of time.

Then the police should have the power to stop people on the street and ask them why they sneezed. The law should be so tough that you have to have an explination for everything.

I know the above goes against rights to freedom etc, but at the end of the day this would crack down and reduce the ammount of these nasty types of crimes happening.

After say 2 or 3 years, the 'chav' culture would pretty much be obsolete and the laws could start relaxing a little.

Also i feel that death penalties for really bad crimes should be bought back in to play... It would make people think twice before commiting them.

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