Recommended Posts

nu metal is just about as metal as metalcore. accept it and stop arguing or leave.

586312572[/snapback]

O... because you think ure the creator of the thread doesn't mean ure the boss of what's said.

I was just giving my views on what's not metal.

Metalcore is more metal that nu-metal.

Metalcore is just a mix of heavy metal with hardcore when nu metal is a mix with rap and hip hop so tell me what's more metal please cky fan boy?

and nope i'm not going to accept it only because you think some nu metal band is real metal when they are far from it.

O... because you think ure the creator of the thread doesn't mean ure the boss of what's said.

I was just giving my views on what's not metal.

Metalcore is more metal that nu-metal.

Metalcore is just a mix of heavy metal with hardcore when nu metal is a mix with rap and hip hop so tell me what's more metal please cky fan boy?

and nope i'm not going to accept it only because you think some nu metal band is real metal when they are far from it.

586313179[/snapback]

ok

nu metal is just about as metal as metalcore. accept it and stop arguing or leave.

586312572[/snapback]

Nu Metal should be split in two IMO. The angsty mainstrem metal like Slipknot and Korn and then the crappy half-arsed Alt. Rock like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc. Those that fall on 'metal' side of nu metal are somewhat safe to be called metal, but calling those Alt. Rock bands like Linkin Park metal is an embarrassment to metal itself.

Personally, I'm not much of a fan of the whole genre, alt. rock or not. I think the only nu metal album in my playlist is Mushroomhead - "XIII", oh and some Deftones, but they're hardly metal (IMO).

Will someone please tell me what metalcore is, seriously. There are too many subgenres of metal. When I think of subgenres I think of Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal. Not this metalcore or nu-metal crap. Nu-Metal is some of the worst music I have ever heard.

Besides that, I read that on COB's new single they are releasing, it will include a cover of Oops I did it again. What do you all think of that? I know it will sound a hell of a lot better than the original, even though I hate that song with a passion.

Nu Metal is Metal.

I mean, the word itself was invented not so long ago. How did they call Korn in '94? Please, if you have something against mainstream bands, that's your issue, if you said that [insert Korn album] sucked I would be pleased to discuss about it...

If you are so whiny about what comes in this thread, make your own thread and make rules about what comes in and what doesn't. I came in here and saw no rules.

Anyway, I jsut got new Soulfly and Fear Factory :punk:

:D You just have to love these endless discussions about what counts for metal and what doesn't! Personally I'm of the old stubborn generation that basically never would consider anything made after the early 90's without long curly hair metal, especially the entire nu/skate/whatever-scene, that kids today calls metal just because it has a distorted guitar. :) Talk about narrowminded, lol!

Anyway, no intentions whatsoever to upset people, just wanted to explain the minds of some of us elderly metalfans that keeps dreaming of a new "real" Metallicaalbum with 8 minutes songs in 13/14 meter ;)

Rock on guys!

Edited by jdb264c
I think it should have been defined from the beginning what the topic creator constituted as "metal" as a guideline.  I agree that bands like Korn, Linkin Park, and Limp Bizkit have no business in this thread. ;)

586321727[/snapback]

yeh i dont like korn linkin park and definetly not limp cookie. so lets have a vote say wether you want it or dont. i personally dont really.

I think it should have been defined from the beginning what the topic creator constituted as "metal" as a guideline.  I agree that bands like Korn, Linkin Park, and Limp Bizkit have no business in this thread. ;)

586321727[/snapback]

Too right dude :)

Will someone please tell me what metalcore is, seriously.  There are too many subgenres of metal.  When I think of subgenres I think of Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal.  Not this metalcore or nu-metal crap.  Nu-Metal is some of the worst music I have ever heard.

Besides that, I read that on COB's new single they are releasing, it will include a cover of Oops I did it again.  What do you all think of that?  I know it will sound a hell of a lot better than the original, even though I hate that song with a passion.

586323380[/snapback]

Metalcore is really a mix of metal and hardcore music which is ok ( i dont mind it ) because it doesn't have any rap or hip hop influence like what nu metal has.

Nu Metal is Metal.

I mean, the word itself was invented not so long ago. How did they call Korn in '94? Please, if you have something against mainstream bands, that's your issue, if you said that [insert Korn album] sucked I would be pleased to discuss about it...

If you are so whiny about what comes in this thread, make your own thread and make rules about what comes in and what doesn't. I came in here and saw no rules.

Anyway, I jsut got new Soulfly and Fear Factory :punk:

586323877[/snapback]

nu metal is not metal please get that out of your head... :yes:

Will someone please tell me what metalcore is, seriously.  There are too many subgenres of metal.  When I think of subgenres I think of Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal.  Not this metalcore or nu-metal crap.  Nu-Metal is some of the worst music I have ever heard.

586323380[/snapback]

Metalcore is a cross-breed between hardcore and metal. Once you listen to a few metalcore bands, its pretty easy to spot one out as the genre can get a bit repetitive (a lot of metalcore bands sound the same and none of the new ones manage to break much new ground). Lots of high speed, palm muted riffing and double kick on the drums is apparent in metalcore. Breakdowns are pretty common too.

That's about all I can give you as a definition. You'll have to go listen to some bands to get a real understanding of it.

Recommended bands:

  • All That Remains
  • As I Lay Dying
  • Trivum
  • Unearth

Awesome thread its about time there is one of these on neowin in my opinion, seen just about any other forums have one of these except neowin even OCAU had one.

Dream Theatre KICKS ASS!!

Newer album Octavarium absoultuly kicks ass!! Fav song on the album is Panic Attack, any opinion on this album from you dudes?

586218375[/snapback]

Does Neowin support having clubs within Neowin? :unsure:

^ Why wouldnt they.... Wouldnt really call this a club anyway turns out just to be a general metal discussion thread. Other forums have tags they put in sigs and whatnot ;)

I GOT MY HANDS ON THE NEW AVENGED SEVENFOLD ALBUM (finally) CITY OF EVIL OH MY GOSH!!!! Im telling you dudes this is ****en awesome, the best I have ever heard in my opinion, I had downloaded it on its release and loved it but now I finally got around to buying it and geez every track is so intense the guitar riffs fast paced double bassing the awesome vocals damn I am only up to the 3rd track so far and ****en so damn ****en AWESOME!

:p

Opeth owns dream theater , get blackwater park , this is the best album ever

586218477[/snapback]

opeth is good but they're absolutely no dream theater. i'm so glad to see so many DT fans here.

also, while we're on the opeth topic - ghost reveries is really good! it rocks.

octavarium is choice also.

dream theater

soul embraced

crimson moonlight

as i lay dying

antestor

extol

Paramaecium

Slechtvalk

tristania

zao

the agony scene

GWAR

symphony in peril

Edited by pacifica
Anyone else pick up the latest Nevermore album?  It's great and the production is spot on, unlike Enemies of Reality.

586328977[/snapback]

Yeah i got this album "This Godless Endeavor" i think it's a killer album with some good songs on. The song "Born (the retribution of spiritual sickness )" is a good opener.

Yeah i got this album "This Godless Endeavor" i think it's a killer album with some good songs on. The song "Born (the retribution of spiritual sickness )" is a good opener.

586330037[/snapback]

I agree. I was sold on the first track as soon as I heard it.

Comparing Dream Theater and Opeth is pointless anyway. Just give them their credit as two of the most talented bands to ever grace our ears and let that be that. ;)

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Glad I uninstalled this incredibly buggy browser. Looking at that changelog, they clearly don't test their updates at all.
    • UniGetUI 2026.2.2 by Razvan Serea UniGetUI is an application whose main goal is to create an intuitive GUI for the most common CLI package managers for Windows 10 and Windows 11, such as Winget, Scoop and Chocolatey. With UniGetUI, you'll be able to download, install, update and uninstall any software that's published on the supported package managers — and so much more. UniGetUI features Install, update and remove software from your system easily at one click: UniGetUI combines the packages from the most used package managers for windows: WinGet, Chocolatey, Scoop, Pip, Npm and .NET Tool. Discover new packages and filter them to easily find the package you want. View detailed metadata about any package before installing it. Get the direct download URL or the name of the publisher, as well as the size of the download. Easily bulk-install, update or uninstall multiple packages at once selecting multiple packages before performing an operation Automatically update packages, or be notified when updates become available. Skip versions or completely ignore updates in a per-package basis. Manage your available updates at the touch of a button from the Widgets pane or from Dev Home pane with UniGetUI Widgets. The system tray icon will also show the available updates and installed package, to efficiently update a program or remove a package from your system. Easily customize how and where packages are installed. Select different installation options and switches for each package. Install an older version or force to install a 32bit architecture. [But don't worry, those options will be saved for future updates for this package] Share packages with your friends to show them off that program you found. Here is an example: Hey @friend, Check out this program! Export custom lists of packages to then import them to another machine and install those packages with previously-specified, custom installation parameters. Setting up machines or configuring a specific software setup has never been easier. Backup your packages to a local file to easily recover your setup in a matter of seconds when migrating to a new machine Devolutions UniGetUI 2026.2.2 changelog: This release marks the completion of UniGetUI's migration from WinUI to Avalonia. With the remaining WinUI components and dependencies now removed, UniGetUI is fully powered by Avalonia. This update also brings Windows 11 Snap Layouts support, refined styling throughout the application, improved log viewing, new illustrations, and significantly smaller release packages. Highlights Further refined the Avalonia user interface to better match WinUI styling and behavior across package lists, navigation elements, dialogs, and controls. Added support for Windows 11 Snap Layouts when hovering the maximize button, matching the behavior of native Windows applications. Added illustrations for empty and loading package list states, improving visual feedback throughout the application. Improved the operation log window so automatic scrolling no longer interrupts users when reviewing previous log entries. Reduced installer and application package sizes, resulting in smaller downloads and a significantly leaner Windows distribution. User Interface Improvements Improved package list styling, column headers, backgrounds, hover states, and selection indicators for a more polished and consistent experience. Refined sidebar navigation and segmented controls to better align with modern Windows design patterns. Improved package tag badges and icon presentation throughout the application. Updated several labels, placeholders, and interface elements for improved clarity and consistency. Removed the remaining WinUI-specific styling dependencies, further consolidating the application around Avalonia. Windows Improvements Added native Windows 11 Snap Layouts integration for the maximize button. Improved maximize button hover and pressed visual states to more closely match native Windows behavior. Performance & Reliability Reduced the size of Windows release packages by removing unnecessary runtime dependencies and optimizing published builds. Reduced installer size through improved compression settings. Simplified application dependencies and reduced overall maintenance complexity. Fixes Fixed log output auto-scrolling behavior when manually reviewing previous entries. Resolved various UI inconsistencies and styling issues across the Avalonia interface. Addressed several minor issues and edge cases throughout the application. Other Changes Dependency cleanup and project maintenance. Internal code refactoring and infrastructure improvements. Additional test coverage and build pipeline optimizations. Download: UniGetUI 64-bit | Portable | ~90.0 MB (Open Source) Download: UniGetUI ARM64 | Portable Links: UniGetUI Home Page | GitHub | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • The best controller for XBOX and PC is down to the lowest price by Taras Buria Image via Neowin The GameSir G7 Pro is a fantastic controller for XBOX and PC. Officially certified, it works with Microsoft's consoles, mobile devices, and PCs, giving you a universal controller for any kind of gaming machine. And right now, you can save 20% on it, thanks to the latest deal during Prime Day 2026 (purchase link below). The G7 Pro has the classic XBOX layout, complemented by a couple of extra elements, such as the M button for changing various settings and four additional remappable buttons. It also has trigger locks and TMR sticks that eliminate drifting issues, giving you a reliable, long-lasting gamepad. The controller is powered by a built-in battery, which charges via a USB Type-C cable or the bundled dock station. The G7 Pro supports wireless (XBOX Wireless, proprietary dongle, or Bluetooth) and wired connectivity. In addition to software customization (you can remap multiple buttons to different actions), it lets you personalize the look by swapping the faceplate or grips, enabling multiple design combinations. Other features include a 1,000Hz polling rate, an audio jack for your headphones, Hall Effect triggers, and a swappable D-pad (two extra are included). The controller is also available in four color variants, and all of them are now discounted. Thanks to quality materials, reliable components, rich customization, universal compatibility, and an affordable price tag, the G7 Pro received very high praise in our review. It is certainly among the best controllers you can buy. GameSir G7 Pro - $63.99 | 20% off with Prime Good to know This Amazon deal is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. Become a Prime member (for Students or SNAP) via Neowin Get Prime Access - Prime for half price (for qualifying Medicaid, EBT, SNAP) Subscribe to Prime Video, Audible Plus, Music Unlimited or Kindle Unlimited via Neowin As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
    • Microsoft further improving Windows 11 Taskbar with latest builds by Sayan Sen Microsoft has released new Windows 11 builds for users flighting the Experimental channels. The new builds are 26300.8758 for Windows 11 26H2, 28120.2374 for 26H1, and 29617.1000 for future platforms. There are improvements related to the Taskbar, File Explorer and more with the new update. The full changelogs are given below: First we have the build 26300.8758: Changes and improvements gradually being rolled out [Taskbar] Taskbar customization just got easier. As we continue to make improvements to the Taskbar experience mentioned last month, we've introduced a dedicated Taskbar Size setting, making it simpler to find, understand, and personalize your ideal taskbar experience. UI showing the new Taskbar Size setting in Settings. We've also made refinements to the transitions between taskbar sizes for a smoother overall experience. [File Explorer] We've improved the reliability of thumbnail previews for cloud files in the Details pane. The pane has also been reorganized so file properties are easier to find and review at a glance. Fixed an issue where the OneDrive shortcut in File Explorer stops working when File Explorer is run in administrative mode. Fixed an issue where the confirmation dialog might display an internal Recycle Bin file name instead of the original file name when permanently deleting a file. [Sounds] Improved system sounds when using Windows in dark mode. Up next we have build 28120.2374: Changes and improvements gradually being rolled out This update includes a small set of general improvements and fixes [Mobile Device Settings] You can add and manage your mobile devices in Settings under Bluetooth & Devices > Mobile Devices. On this page, you can manage features such as using your device as a connected camera or accessing your device's files in File Explorer. [Remote Recovery Management] Added a recovery remote management plug-in to extend WinRE management capabilities for MDM providers. [Input] The emoji panel (Windows key + period (.)) now uses GIPHY as the GIF provider, delivering a smoother GIF browsing and sharing experience following the deprecation of the Tenor API. Finally we have the changelog for Windows 11 build 29617.1000: Changes and improvements gradually being rolled out [Windows Update] As announced in the Windows Update announce blog, we are now bringing a new unified update experience to reduce the number of reboots you see per month. We are starting by coordinating driver, .NET, and firmware updates to align with the monthly quality update, reducing the update experience to a single monthly restart. See the blog for more information. [Windows Magnifier] Magnifier now gives you more control over how you zoom. You can type an exact zoom percentage directly in the magnifier toolbar to land on precisely the level you need. We've also added preset step increments (5%, 10%, 25%, 50%, 100%, 150%, 200%, and 400%) to the Settings dropdown, so you can jump to common levels in a single click. Whether you need a subtle boost or a dramatic close-up, Magnifier adapts to how you want to zoom. Enter an exact percentage or jump to preset steps —5% up to 400%. Feedback: Share your thoughts in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Accessibility > Magnifier. [Accessibility] We're introducing screen tint, a new accessibility setting that applies a color overlay across your entire display, softening its intensity so it's easier on your eyes throughout the day. If bright, saturated screens leave you with tired or sensitive eyes by the end of a long session, screen tint can help. Screenshot showing UI for screen tint in Accessibility, with color presets and a strength slider. To get started, open Settings > Accessibility (or press WIN + U) and look for screen tint under the Vision section. From there, you can: Pick from six preset colors or choose a custom color of your own. Adjust the tint strength slider from a subtle wash to full intensity. Night light warms your display to reduce blue light that can interfere with sleep. Screen tint reduces overall screen intensity to ease eye fatigue and light sensitivity during the day. They tackle different problems and you can use both at the same time, one working on warmth and the other on intensity. Note that turning on screen tint will disable color filters, and vice versa. If you currently rely on color filters, you might need to keep screen tint turned off. Feedback: Share your thoughts in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Accessibility > Narrator. [Voice Access] Voice Access now supports Portuguese (Portugal), Portuguese (Brazil), and Korean (South Korea). [Audio] Continuing our work on improving Sound Settings, we've made a few more updates in this build: We've adjusted the description text for the Allow option in properties for audio devices to include the current state of the device, to improve the clarity of the text and the purpose of the button actions. "Listen to this device" is now available in properties for audio devices, so you don't need to enter Control Panel for this functionality. [Multiple Desktops] Improved explorer reliability when switching between multiple desktops. [Storage] We've updated the dialog when creating a Dev Drive to now support specifying the size in GB instead of only MB. This has also been added when changing the size of volumes under Settings > System > Storage. [Personalization] This update improves color selection accuracy when adjusting your accent color to match your wallpaper when automatic accent color selection is enabled in Personalization settings. This update improves wallpaper persistence reliability across restarts and upgrades, including better support for large-resolution wallpapers and other scenarios to prevent solid color wallpaper fallback. [Display and Graphics] Improves the reliability and persistence of applying color profiles. You can view the official blog posts here (link1, link2, link3) on Microsoft's site.
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Year In
      bernmeister earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Week One Done
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      tuben earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • First Post
      OffsetAbs earned a badge
      First Post
    • Reacting Well
      OffsetAbs earned a badge
      Reacting Well
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      442
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      197
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      156
    4. 4
      FloatingFatMan
      71
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      67
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!