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nu metal is just about as metal as metalcore. accept it and stop arguing or leave.

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O... because you think ure the creator of the thread doesn't mean ure the boss of what's said.

I was just giving my views on what's not metal.

Metalcore is more metal that nu-metal.

Metalcore is just a mix of heavy metal with hardcore when nu metal is a mix with rap and hip hop so tell me what's more metal please cky fan boy?

and nope i'm not going to accept it only because you think some nu metal band is real metal when they are far from it.

O... because you think ure the creator of the thread doesn't mean ure the boss of what's said.

I was just giving my views on what's not metal.

Metalcore is more metal that nu-metal.

Metalcore is just a mix of heavy metal with hardcore when nu metal is a mix with rap and hip hop so tell me what's more metal please cky fan boy?

and nope i'm not going to accept it only because you think some nu metal band is real metal when they are far from it.

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ok

nu metal is just about as metal as metalcore. accept it and stop arguing or leave.

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Nu Metal should be split in two IMO. The angsty mainstrem metal like Slipknot and Korn and then the crappy half-arsed Alt. Rock like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc. Those that fall on 'metal' side of nu metal are somewhat safe to be called metal, but calling those Alt. Rock bands like Linkin Park metal is an embarrassment to metal itself.

Personally, I'm not much of a fan of the whole genre, alt. rock or not. I think the only nu metal album in my playlist is Mushroomhead - "XIII", oh and some Deftones, but they're hardly metal (IMO).

Will someone please tell me what metalcore is, seriously. There are too many subgenres of metal. When I think of subgenres I think of Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal. Not this metalcore or nu-metal crap. Nu-Metal is some of the worst music I have ever heard.

Besides that, I read that on COB's new single they are releasing, it will include a cover of Oops I did it again. What do you all think of that? I know it will sound a hell of a lot better than the original, even though I hate that song with a passion.

Nu Metal is Metal.

I mean, the word itself was invented not so long ago. How did they call Korn in '94? Please, if you have something against mainstream bands, that's your issue, if you said that [insert Korn album] sucked I would be pleased to discuss about it...

If you are so whiny about what comes in this thread, make your own thread and make rules about what comes in and what doesn't. I came in here and saw no rules.

Anyway, I jsut got new Soulfly and Fear Factory :punk:

:D You just have to love these endless discussions about what counts for metal and what doesn't! Personally I'm of the old stubborn generation that basically never would consider anything made after the early 90's without long curly hair metal, especially the entire nu/skate/whatever-scene, that kids today calls metal just because it has a distorted guitar. :) Talk about narrowminded, lol!

Anyway, no intentions whatsoever to upset people, just wanted to explain the minds of some of us elderly metalfans that keeps dreaming of a new "real" Metallicaalbum with 8 minutes songs in 13/14 meter ;)

Rock on guys!

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I think it should have been defined from the beginning what the topic creator constituted as "metal" as a guideline.  I agree that bands like Korn, Linkin Park, and Limp Bizkit have no business in this thread. ;)

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yeh i dont like korn linkin park and definetly not limp cookie. so lets have a vote say wether you want it or dont. i personally dont really.

I think it should have been defined from the beginning what the topic creator constituted as "metal" as a guideline.  I agree that bands like Korn, Linkin Park, and Limp Bizkit have no business in this thread. ;)

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Too right dude :)

Will someone please tell me what metalcore is, seriously.  There are too many subgenres of metal.  When I think of subgenres I think of Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal.  Not this metalcore or nu-metal crap.  Nu-Metal is some of the worst music I have ever heard.

Besides that, I read that on COB's new single they are releasing, it will include a cover of Oops I did it again.  What do you all think of that?  I know it will sound a hell of a lot better than the original, even though I hate that song with a passion.

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Metalcore is really a mix of metal and hardcore music which is ok ( i dont mind it ) because it doesn't have any rap or hip hop influence like what nu metal has.

Nu Metal is Metal.

I mean, the word itself was invented not so long ago. How did they call Korn in '94? Please, if you have something against mainstream bands, that's your issue, if you said that [insert Korn album] sucked I would be pleased to discuss about it...

If you are so whiny about what comes in this thread, make your own thread and make rules about what comes in and what doesn't. I came in here and saw no rules.

Anyway, I jsut got new Soulfly and Fear Factory :punk:

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nu metal is not metal please get that out of your head... :yes:

Will someone please tell me what metalcore is, seriously.  There are too many subgenres of metal.  When I think of subgenres I think of Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal.  Not this metalcore or nu-metal crap.  Nu-Metal is some of the worst music I have ever heard.

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Metalcore is a cross-breed between hardcore and metal. Once you listen to a few metalcore bands, its pretty easy to spot one out as the genre can get a bit repetitive (a lot of metalcore bands sound the same and none of the new ones manage to break much new ground). Lots of high speed, palm muted riffing and double kick on the drums is apparent in metalcore. Breakdowns are pretty common too.

That's about all I can give you as a definition. You'll have to go listen to some bands to get a real understanding of it.

Recommended bands:

  • All That Remains
  • As I Lay Dying
  • Trivum
  • Unearth

Awesome thread its about time there is one of these on neowin in my opinion, seen just about any other forums have one of these except neowin even OCAU had one.

Dream Theatre KICKS ASS!!

Newer album Octavarium absoultuly kicks ass!! Fav song on the album is Panic Attack, any opinion on this album from you dudes?

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Does Neowin support having clubs within Neowin? :unsure:

^ Why wouldnt they.... Wouldnt really call this a club anyway turns out just to be a general metal discussion thread. Other forums have tags they put in sigs and whatnot ;)

I GOT MY HANDS ON THE NEW AVENGED SEVENFOLD ALBUM (finally) CITY OF EVIL OH MY GOSH!!!! Im telling you dudes this is ****en awesome, the best I have ever heard in my opinion, I had downloaded it on its release and loved it but now I finally got around to buying it and geez every track is so intense the guitar riffs fast paced double bassing the awesome vocals damn I am only up to the 3rd track so far and ****en so damn ****en AWESOME!

:p

Opeth owns dream theater , get blackwater park , this is the best album ever

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opeth is good but they're absolutely no dream theater. i'm so glad to see so many DT fans here.

also, while we're on the opeth topic - ghost reveries is really good! it rocks.

octavarium is choice also.

dream theater

soul embraced

crimson moonlight

as i lay dying

antestor

extol

Paramaecium

Slechtvalk

tristania

zao

the agony scene

GWAR

symphony in peril

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Anyone else pick up the latest Nevermore album?  It's great and the production is spot on, unlike Enemies of Reality.

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Yeah i got this album "This Godless Endeavor" i think it's a killer album with some good songs on. The song "Born (the retribution of spiritual sickness )" is a good opener.

Yeah i got this album "This Godless Endeavor" i think it's a killer album with some good songs on. The song "Born (the retribution of spiritual sickness )" is a good opener.

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I agree. I was sold on the first track as soon as I heard it.

Comparing Dream Theater and Opeth is pointless anyway. Just give them their credit as two of the most talented bands to ever grace our ears and let that be that. ;)

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