Internet Explorer 7 Beta 1


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Which is exactly why I don't like it. I haven't had any issue with any form of malware in prob close to 2 years, and there's no reason I would by switching to IE, that's why I find it frustrating to use a browers I can't control.

I realize that this is going to be a great thing for prob 90% of computer users, those who wouldn't know better (read: n00bs) but for those of use who know what we're doing (almost every member on this forum minus the influx recent n00bs all excited about the Vista beta) we're smart enough to avoid that junk. I gotta stop being so hard on new people, sorry new people.

I'll recommend this to friends and family that don't know how to do much more than check email and play solitaire when it goes final, but personally, I'd rather have something I have more control over, so I've uninstalled it and gone back to FF. If things change or some reg hacks are found to get control of the interface, I may use it again someday as I'd prefer to have just one browser instead of 2, but I'll live for now.

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thank you...that's exactly the response I'm looking for...

I believe everyone on Neowin (us geeks anyways..:p) is smart enough to not get those stuff or even if we do, we know how to get rid of it. But you are correct. Most PC users in this world is that other 90% and this will be a great improvement for them. MS make software for MANY people in the world so they can not possibly make everyone happy, but if it is geared towards the greater goods, all we can say is thumb up and thank you Microsoft...:/

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hmm no

this is much better than firefox, and thats coming from a firefox fan, ive used it for a few years and loved it, now this just takes over.

And its a beta, probably not much different from the IE6 engine, by the final the standards will be fixed :p

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what exactly is "much better than firefox"? what can it do, that firefox cant?

Remember by the time Microsoft release IE 7 final, they'll be battling against Firefox 1.5 (a huge upgrade), and not 1.0. I'm cynical whether Microsoft can catch up, features like MathML, SVG, CSS2.1 and partial CSS3 support, Canvas and all those cool extensions..

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IE7 beta1... long way to go..

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Actually thats incorrect. In the default Firefox, without your tabs extension, there is no "close" button on tabs. Please don't compare a modified Firefox with a standard IE7.

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This is great it is wrong and ilegal to use IE 7 beta unless you are a special group of users. More power for Firefox they let users use any beta and any version they have no problems.

MS will die soon the way they keep treating users is just bad. They can't release windows with out taken everything they promise out of it. They refuse to put tabs or release IE 7 until Firefox takes a cut of their pie.

MS ahould  start taken care of their customers.

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i think its illegal to distribute it...

but not to use it ;)

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Like i said earlier: It's still beta,

Most of you people aren't suppose to have this in the first place so stop complaning :p.

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I agree with Jake.

I was thinking if you don't like the GUI maybe you can use an IE shell(like Maxthon and Avant).

The IE shell should be using the IE7 engine if IE7 is installed, isn't it?

And you can move the toolbars in the IE shell.

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Actually thats incorrect. In the default Firefox, without your tabs extension, there is no "close" button on tabs. Please don't compare a modified Firefox with a standard IE7.

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just what i was about to say :D

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MS Antispyware detected my IE7 beta 1 as spyware and removed it! Well done Microsoft!  :laugh:

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That's the funniest thing I've heard all day! :laugh:

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Why is it that everytime M$ gets some new software out there is people complaining and on top they are the one that are not suppose to have the release that does.

Tell M$ instead of us and i think that there would be more chance that your complaints gets heard and your suggested improvements introduced in the next release instead of telling people that dont care.

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53.468: GetCatVersion:  Failed to retrieve version information from C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}\ie7beta1.cat with error 0x57

53.515: GetCatVersion:  Failed to retrieve version information from C:\WINDOWS\ie7beta1.cat with error 0x80092004

54.468: GetCatVersion:  Failed to retrieve version information from C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}\KB904942.cat with error 0x57

471.406: InstallSingleCatalogFile: MyInstallCatalog failed for KB904942.cat; error=0xfffffbfe.

471.421: DoInstallation:MyInstallCatalogFiles failed:STR_CATALOG_INSTALL_FAILED

471.453: Failed to install catalog files.

Select 'OK' to undo the changes that have been made.

Anyone know why? Please help. :(

Maybe I don't have a needed service running?

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Got IE7, and to be entirely honest... I prefer it a LOT more to Firefox. The problem i've always had with firefox is speed. i.e:

* 1-2 second lag switching tabs

* Takes friggen forever to open a new window

* Takes a long time to initially load

Now I know how everyone bangs on about how *great* firefox's speed is, but i've always found IE that bit better.

On the other hand.. Firefox has its fair share of features that I like.

* The javascript console is just great.. couldn't live without it

* I just love the Web devloper extension I found for it... also couldn't live without it

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Actually thats incorrect. In the default Firefox, without your tabs extension, there is no "close" button on tabs. Please don't compare a modified Firefox with a standard IE7.

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hmm... i hope that there will be more extensions for IE7.. :happy:

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a "bug" that annoyes me is that i can not hide the ugly button that opens new tabs :p and how the hell do i close tabs with keyboard? ctrl+f4 doesn't work

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From paul thurrotts supersite

"There's a New Tab button to the right of the rightmost tab, and you open and close tabs with the correct CTRL+T and CTRL+W key commands, respectively, which is appreciated. (Most Microsoft apps insist on using CTRL+F4 for closing tabs, which is almost impossible to do with one hand.)"

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hmm... i hope that there will be more extensions for IE7.. :happy:

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I wonder if the coolwebsearch "extension" will work ;)

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I think IE7 looks fine, its alot more interesting than firefox, don't get me wrong i used ff all the time but i think microsoft finally caought up.

don't hate it just because you want to hate microsoft. If microsoft made FF you'd hate it.

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what exactly is "much better than firefox"? what can it do, that firefox cant?

Remember by the time Microsoft release IE 7 final, they'll be battling against Firefox 1.5 (a huge upgrade), and not 1.0. I'm cynical whether Microsoft can catch up, features like MathML, SVG, CSS2.1 and partial CSS3 support, Canvas and all those cool extensions..

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It just seems much faster, and to me, firefox was always to "chunky" IE is nice and "thin" and just what i need....

I dont really know, its just my personal opinion!

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ok, i did it on my own, you BS helpers,

people, go download hex workshop 4.2 (its free) and then open the iecustom.dll with the hex workshop 4.2

and go to "edit" and then "replace" and then type 0F95 and change it to 0F94 and save it

all done,

one question, is there not a RSS icon on the main standard buttons?

w-k

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Go Opera, Go Opera, Go...

light, speedy and multifunctional!

Now, if only those 1-3% something, amount of pages can just open in opera alright!!!

To Opera Team, Stop putting functions & get all the pages working alright, just get some code to spot erros & correct them.

Anyway i can always open another browser for the ones that don't open, no prob!

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It just seems much faster, and to me, firefox was always to "chunky" IE is nice and "thin" and just what i need....

I dont really know, its just my personal opinion!

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IE7 is everything but not thin.

IE7 uses much more RAM than it used to, now even more than Firefox...

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When you check a site with the Phishing filter it enables auto-checking though still stating it as being turned off. You cannot then disable auto-checking unless you disable the whole phishing filter option.

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