neuralshock Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) I'm not in the managed beta; got WLM .0365 through invite, but from what i've seen in this topic: - Still the huge borders around the contact list. What a waste of desktop space. A 2px or 3px border would be enough, I think. And keep the user information area and the contact list area the same width please, it's ridiculous the way it is. - The status icons... I think putting the status signs in the .0365 build icons would have been a much better idea. Or even giving them different colours to sort them out, instead of putting these back to service in most of the UI. - The user info area and the window header should be as one, not this mess. - There shouldn't be such a huge space between the border of the display picture and the display picture of our contacts, when the DP thumbnail is enabled. - Align the user info area to the right, and keep the rest of the stuff left-aligned? (in snsn's screenshots, the others are too small to actually see things clearly) I'm speechless. It was good as it was, left-aligned. - (edit) Just saw the chat window. Why do they keep insisting in huge borders around the display pictures, and (good) small ones around the chat area itself? Please, discard the huge borders. And the space for the webcam and DP options below... shrink it too, it's too big! So... who in the UI team forgot to take their medicine today? And a question: Was anything changed in the preferences window? They should use a 32x32 icon for each category besides the title, like Firefox / Thunderbird / a lot of other applications have. The way it is, it's too much blank space; and the 32x32 icons would make it easier to navigate. edited to add opinion about conversation windows Edited February 10, 2006 by neuralshock Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted February 10, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 10, 2006 I'm thinking, seeing as this was such a step back in terms of UI etc, that the next build will be even better than these two. Seriously, this build sucks ass atm, I'm going back to 365... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoXY Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 On the plus side I think they might have done a little to reduce resource usage. yep...it runs and feels a bit lighter.. but holy man...this thing is... ummm...ugly is an understatment...:/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 is there any sort of a-patch available yet? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snsn Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Did you notice this this point ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoDaddy Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Does anyone have a screen shot of this in Vista? Does it look the same? I'm thinking this: Along with a lot of others I asked for either a theme that took up less space, or the availability to switch to one. Maybe this is the compact theme? I notice that they have made it smaller. Also, maybe they're making a new interface, and just put this one together for the testers. It looks bad so no one will want it so much? Maybe? I was starting to get used to (and like) the other interface. I think light grey looks good on this one, but that's about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Does this work if you got an invite to WLM? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke009 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Does this work if you got an invite to WLM? Yes it does. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Did you notice this this point ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I would have never noticed but now I always see it. It kinda bugs me :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoXY Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 well one thing is for sure...it use less resource and is not bloated like the last version.. the white version is...ok I guess...just not the black...or any other color for that matter -shivers- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewhaji Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Did you notice this this point ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Looks like the little guy is flipping you a choice finger. A pink finger, at that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical112 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Edges are curved on mine, no problems here. The colors can be a bit difficult at times depending on what you have selected. sorry i meant the display pictures and buttons... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dave164 Subscriber¹ Posted February 10, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hummmmm this WLM is bugging me more and more dispite how much i use it Sure it feels lighter, quicker, etc... but its on the 7.5 engine im positive, same icons, same options, just an ability to do a few more things and also search through contacts, otherwise im hating this more and more as i use it, the random letters at end of sentances is really pi$$ing me off as well Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veedems Veteran Posted February 10, 2006 Veteran Share Posted February 10, 2006 UNLESS YOU CAN LOG IN TO CONNECT.MICROSOFT.COM AND DOWNLOAD THIS BUILD, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN GRANTED ACCESS TO THIS BETA TESTER ONLY RELEASE. ANYONE REQUESTING LINKS WILL HAVE THEIR POST REMOVED AND A WARNING ISSUED TO THEIR ACCOUNT Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCheese Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I just got my hands on this build and I really like it. Apart from a few bugs, the new UI is really sleek and nice, however they sitll need to reduce the borders more. I really can't understand the mentality of people who like build 365 over this one. Build 365 was disgusting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1000 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Ok just want you guys to share your opinion, maybe someone of the MSN staff will read this: Wouldn't it be nicer if the info "<nick> says:" only appeared AFTER the other user replied, instead of appearing in each and every new paragraph? Like: > me says: > bla > bla > you says: > bla > bla Instead of (the way it is now): > me says: > bla > me says: > bla > you says: > bla > you says: > bla It would make for a less visually bloated conversation. I think it would be a lot nicer. Another thing: they should improve in some way the presentation of file sending, the way it is you keep losing visual contact with the progress bar, and have to scroll up all the time. Maybe put the progress bars below the DP thumbnail, off the chat area? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidZilla Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Installed last night when I got the email and good god I dislike the interface. I wasn't a big fan of the first one either, but liked it better than this. They need to take advice from community skinners for miranda and such or somethin. Well, time for bug huntin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdxg0d Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 this is what microsoft should be making the gui to look like for msn messenger----> http://www.upload2.com/?cmd=_viewer&file=2...14cd5d84a4f.jpg Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculator Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 this is what microsoft should be making the gui to look like for msn messenger----> http://www.upload2.com/?cmd=_viewer&file=2...14cd5d84a4f.jpg That's Wave11 MSN Glass... I don't think MS will ever release such a Messenger UI, because the artwork isn't their property, but the property of The Messenger Lab. And it won't fit their Vista/XP style either. :rofl: I think the good thing about this UI is that you can colorize more stuff. But still, I don't understand why they release such an ugly design as a private b?ta...:no:: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoDaddy Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 this is what microsoft should be making the gui to look like for msn messenger----> http://www.upload2.com/?cmd=_viewer&file=2...14cd5d84a4f.jpg Not quite digging that, but it may just be the color. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Battery Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I just got my hands on this build and I really like it. Apart from a few bugs, the new UI is really sleek and nice, however they sitll need to reduce the borders more. I really can't understand the mentality of people who like build 365 over this one. Build 365 was disgusting. How is this sleek?? Maybe its sleek if your using windows 3.1. This is the most basic looking version of messenger I have ever seen, if this was a cheap java knockoff of msn I would ask why any of us would want to move over to it. Adding different basic colours does not make it sleek. UNLESS YOU CAN LOG IN TO CONNECT.MICROSOFT.COM AND DOWNLOAD THIS BUILD, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN GRANTED ACCESS TO THIS BETA TESTER ONLY RELEASE. ANYONE REQUESTING LINKS WILL HAVE THEIR POST REMOVED AND A WARNING ISSUED TO THEIR ACCOUNT Might have been good on the first post about all this but I dont think its going to stop anyone now so don't go too nuts at them. :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren (Killshot) Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 lol I like the warning window if you try and send a exe with out Antivirus installed Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vomer Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 lol I like the warning window if you try and send a exe with out Antivirus installed Why ? :laugh: BTW when is APatch coming for this?????? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakingBenjamin Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 What it comes to my mind when I'm using this build is Windows Media Player 10 UI Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 What it comes to my mind when I'm using this build is Windows Media Player 10 UI no, windows media player 10 is not this hideous... this thing has a 2D look to it for the most part, at least WMP10 has the gradients in appropriate places as to make it not look like just a grey rectangle with rounded corners... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/430843-live-messenger-refresh-now-available/page/11/#findComment-587179963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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