jporter Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I got a MSDNAA account this week, and am getting Vista Business for free. Now my question is. If I install it now on my current setup, will I be able to activate it on my next rig which I will purchase in a few months? If so, is it possible to activate it on the rig after that or is it just gonna be limited to one hardware change? Regards, Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588413295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yichi Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I will definetely stick with U edition coz aero and dreamscene will costs rest of my system performance. It will drive me crazy and paid for extra ram and a more powerful cpu, LOL Thanks! bill gates, you've made a good suprise to me every 4-5 years! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588413489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grnemo Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Vista guide Greek localization of slimy's guide on the new greek technology community www.studentguru.gr Credited appropriate. THX (by G. Lucas) :D:D:D:D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588416212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grnemo Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I got a MSDNAA account this week, and am getting Vista Business for free. Now my question is. If I install it now on my current setup, will I be able to activate it on my next rig which I will purchase in a few months? If so, is it possible to activate it on the rig after that or is it just gonna be limited to one hardware change?Regards, This is perfectly legal. Don't bother. If it doesn't let you activate it on new setup over the internet do activation via phone and a microsoft representative will guide you through process. Chill. I know for sure, I am administrator at Dept. of Informatics & Telecom. University of Athens ELMS-MSDNAA subscription. I think there is no limit as long as you aren't using it on 2 pc's. EULA Vista Business(pdf) Cheers bro, Enjoy :D //sorryzz for the double posting spamming :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588416221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDewCodeRedFreak Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Am using Business Edition on both PCs, the self-built I had for PC Configuration class and the Dell comp I had back in 2004. I will upgrade one Vista Business to Ultimate, but I'll keep one Vista Business for support reasons (heard that it'd support through 2017). On a side note, lol the professor had us dual boot between Vista Business and Linux Ubuntu ... will show that to my brother. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588448395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanChung Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Erm regarding serial of vista .. ermm .. does that means that if I do change a whole brand new computer, I cannot use my current license key on the new computer of mine? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588507314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~null~ Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 i installed Vista Ultimate...but what are the differences between them..? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588508707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDewCodeRedFreak Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Both Business and Ultimate. Business for extended support (through 2017) and Ultimate for everything (but support is through 2012, unfortunately), lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588548998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao muon Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Both Business and Ultimate.Business for extended support (through 2017) and Ultimate for everything (but support is through 2012, unfortunately), lol. How does that work? Since Ultimate contains the functionality of Business, shouldn't it be subject to the same support level, at least for Business-related software and performance? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588549007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmac12 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Are you kidding me? Sure goody-wise it's the same as XP, but the security is another story.Vista security is mind-blowingly awesome compared to XP. Also where are you seeing these huge price increases? The only product that it affects is Vista Home Premium. Home Basic $199 = XP Home $199 Home Premium $239 is only $40 more and you get Media Center & Aero. Business $299 = XP Pro $299 Ultimate $399 is a completely new category. It combines Home Premium & Business as well as some Enterprise features and adds in the Ultimate Extras program with a premium of only $100 over the business price. Are you telling me that an OS that can work on a Tablet PC with a Wireless HDTV tuner/receiver isn't worth $400 retail or $360 upgrade if you own XP? Yes I realize that Wireless HDTV tuners aren't out yet, but I wouldn't expect that to take too long. Or rather I should say the ability to stream HD streams to Vista MC from an HD source via a high speed wireless connection. The security is ridiculous, who wants to respond to 2 or 3 prompts to run a program? Once you disable UAC in the basic version you are back to Windows XP. The idea of not putting some retention capability into UAC so that you aren't forever harassing the owner of a home PC is ludicrous. If you run Zonealrm with Antivirus capability you are just as well protected and it remembers all the programs you want to run after you install them with out harassing you each time. As far as the great security you claim, give it 6 months and you wuill see just as many security updtes from Microsoft. The OS is basically flawed in that regard and until it is completely re-written you are going to have intrinsic security issues. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588565212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconcy Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I got Home Premium with my new laptop, is it really worth $159 to upgrade to Ultimate, the only feature I might actually use is the Deskscapes, which is running quite nicely already ;-) The only current advantage is that Stardock's addon will work only with Ultimate, still hardly worth $159. I get the impression that Ultimate is merely Plus! Revisited. Having been stung by Plus! with all it's promises and not actually delivering much, I'm reluctant to believe Microsoft on this one. I might reconsider once they actually offer something I will actually find useful. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588576478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I got Home Premium with my new laptop, is it really worth $159 to upgrade to Ultimate, the only feature I might actually use is the Deskscapes, which is running quite nicely already ;-) The only current advantage is that Stardock's addon will work only with Ultimate, still hardly worth $159.I get the impression that Ultimate is merely Plus! Revisited. Having been stung by Plus! with all it's promises and not actually delivering much, I'm reluctant to believe Microsoft on this one. I might reconsider once they actually offer something I will actually find useful. Personally, I find that Windows Vista Home Premium does all I need it to (browse the internet, check e-mail, messenger, type documents in Microsoft Office, listen to music, watch DVDs and movies, some photo editing and video editing, creating CDs and DVDs, etc). However, if you like features such as Complete PC Backup or Previous Versions, those would be two compelling reasons to upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate. You also get "inbound" Remote Desktop (so that you can connect to your machine remotely) should you need it. If you're happy with Home Premium though, and it does what you need and works nicely, then stick with it. Save the $159 for something else, like a hardware upgrade down the road or whatnot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588576486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDewCodeRedFreak Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 (edited) How does that work?Since Ultimate contains the functionality of Business, shouldn't it be subject to the same support level, at least for Business-related software and performance? I dunno why, but I think it's because Ultimate is mostly targeted at consumers and power users (and I consider myself a power user). It's just Home Premium and Enterprise (not Business!) combined. Both Enterprise and Ultimate have the BitLocker Drive Encryption, so Business with BitLocker Encryption is Enterprise. That's all I know about the differences between Business and Enterprise, apart from the fact that Enterprise is available only to volume-licensing customers only. Both of those editions do qualify for extended support, since it's what most businesses have, lol. I doubt that they would want to have Home Premium and Ultimate though, so that's why Microsoft decided to limit the support of those editions to 5 years, while they extend the Business and Enterprise editions to 10 years. Any other features of Enterprise that's not in Business, please list them out. Thanks. Edited May 31, 2007 by MtDewCodeRedFreak Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588592761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leddy Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I dunno why, but I think it's because Ultimate is mostly targeted at consumers and power users (and I consider myself a power user). It's just Home Premium and Enterprise (not Business!) combined.Both Enterprise and Ultimate have the BitLocker Drive Encryption, so Business with BitLocker Encryption is Enterprise. That's all I know about the differences between Business and Enterprise. Any other features of Enterprise that's not in Business, please list them out. Thanks. I believe that Enterprise also has the full-disk backup that Business doesn't have. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588592767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconcy Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I dunno why, but I think it's because Ultimate is mostly targeted at consumers and power users (and I consider myself a power user). It's just Home Premium and Enterprise (not Business!) combined.Both Enterprise and Ultimate have the BitLocker Drive Encryption, so Business with BitLocker Encryption is Enterprise. That's all I know about the differences between Business and Enterprise, apart from the fact that Enterprise is available only to volume-licensing customers only. Both of those editions do qualify for extended support, since it's what most businesses have, lol. I doubt that they would want to have Home Premium and Ultimate though, so that's why Microsoft decided to limit the support of those editions to 5 years, while they extend the Business and Enterprise editions to 10 years. Any other features of Enterprise that's not in Business, please list them out. Thanks. There are plenty of other programs out there though that would provide similar features should you need them. PGP springs to mind for encryption and it does support Vista. Backup, plenty of options in that area, and VNC for remote access. Most of the stuff built into Windows does tend to be a bit on the basic side and lacking the real features offered by the more specialized commercial products. On the business side of things, much will depend on what corporate IT policies dictate and that depends on how switched on or paranoid your IT Department is. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588592820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iampedro Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I have the option to install Vista Ultimate or Vista Enterprise (Uses Volume Licensing ) which one should I install? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588668744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ID2 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 My computer already has an operating system. I'm not quite sure that I need another one. It currently runs WinXPproSP2. I am not sure why I need a whole new operating system. I don't need better security as I use excellent third party security software. I don't need backup as I use excellent third party backup software. Can anyone tell me why I need Vista, or why it's better? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588668828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexter66 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 I went for the Ultimate Edition as it always nice to have all the features that Vista have to offer really, I like the backup feature the best so that I don't have to reinstall the system drivers because it all backed up which saves me a lot of hassle. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588682660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
232087_1437846937 Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 What i really want to know is when will microsoft start thinking like apple and just have 1 Operating System which includes everything...rather than microsoft and 2 or more versions for every OS They release :(. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588684333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F K Schneider Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I installed Home Premium on the PC at home. I think Ultimate has too much functions that a home user can never use them. However, if I buy a laptop for myself, I'd like to choose Ultimate though it's more expensive than the other ones. I'm now living in China, and I saw a lot of Windows Vista Ultimate, of course, pirate copy, on sale. Ten yuan a DVD, about $1.3. Genuine copy is too expensive for ordinary Chinese.:( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588729647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmore Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All the versions are on all the dvds. When you first install , if you do not insert your product code, you can choose any version for a free trial period. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588779421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Szuba Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I had bought a new laptop in February (trade-in deal at CompUSA) which had Vista Home Premium on it. Since it didn't have Remote Desktop in it (I could remote from it to another of my PCs, but not to it), I looked at the upgrade to Ultimate. club.live.com came along, and for a while had Ultimate available if you played the brain games and accumulated 6,000 points. Got there and placed the order. Received Ultimate last week and installed it onto the laptop. Right after I ordered it, I told a co-worker or two about it. One of them tried to do the same, but when she got to 6,000 and tried to order it, the site changed -- option to get Ultimate was gone, and replaced with Home Premium for 20,000 points. She's a bit upset at that. :) -Ed S Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588792895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quartec Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 I need Ultimate, I need MUI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588818441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
altezza Veteran Posted September 21, 2007 Veteran Share Posted September 21, 2007 I'm a proud user of Vista Ultimate full version, bought it outright. Couldn't be happier and I still trying to get used to it :D I think I need to install another 1gb memory to be able to run smoothly. Graphic card I think it's okay but it's time for me to change soundcard. Need to fork more money for those. Otherwise I'm happy of the Vista Ultimate :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588864094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunna Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 With Vista ultimate can you have both 32bit and 64bit versions on the same machine from the same install? i.e one account being 32bit and another 64bit. I'm guessing/assuming that you have to have 2 separate installs but if so can you do it with the same licence? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/513642-which-vista-edition-is-right-for-me-basicpremiumbusinessultimate/page/5/#findComment-588942019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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