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LOL, had to go back to December 12, 2006 on Channel9.msdn forum for a post from the Developer & Platform Marketing guy for this promotion (Mark Brown) to see his quote about the fact that Office 2007 Pro will be a download and Vista Business is on physical media. :yes:

Here is what Mark Brown had to say on Dec 12, 2006:

Here is the link to his post on Channel9 forum.

Killer 5th

Again, if you read thru the 25 pages of posts, Mark repeatedly says that both are being stamped and shipped. So it sounds like both are being shipped to us. I am not saying either way is right or wrong.

Ok, the pics already posted... I've gotten the same thing. Big yellow manilla folder with Microsoft on it... inside, the cardboard book with disc, and in it, a sticker (yellow) with CDKey

To offset those who are wondering about Office... go login to www.powertogether.com with your passport/live ID

Once logged in, click the HELP on left side by your name. Scroll down and read this

I?ve received my Microsoft Office 2007 gift in the mail. Why did you use a download for Office 2007 and not a physical disc? b>

Due to the heavy demands on Microsoft to produce on-the-shelf retail product for stores it is not always possible to get physical discs made so close to a product launch. We wanted to make sure you didn?t have to wait so we decided to provide you with the product via download rather than wait for a physical DVD.

There NOW you know why I not Mark said this....

I want to know if not doing the W-9 form screwed up my order. I am a SS Nazi so I wouldn't put it over the net. I hope I at least get Vista, I sent them an e-mail but no reply...

my e-mail said "If you are eligible for and have registered to receive both the Windows Vista Business offer and Microsoft Office Professional 2007 offer, you must complete a W-9 (Request for Taxpayer Identification Number and Certification) form. To make this easier, go to this online form and fax or mail the completed form using the information provided. This form must be completed, returned and documented before the second gift can be shipped. Taxes, if any, are the sole responsibility of the recipient. "

So this means that I should still get Vista right? It shouldn't slow down the other Vista orders either.

Ok, the pics already posted... I've gotten the same thing. Big yellow manilla folder with Microsoft on it... inside, the cardboard book with disc, and in it, a sticker (yellow) with CDKey

To offset those who are wondering about Office... go login to www.powertogether.com with your passport/live ID

Once logged in, click the HELP on left side by your name. Scroll down and read this

I?ve received my Microsoft Office 2007 gift in the mail. Why did you use a download for Office 2007 and not a physical disc? b>

Due to the heavy demands on Microsoft to produce on-the-shelf retail product for stores it is not always possible to get physical discs made so close to a product launch. We wanted to make sure you didn?t have to wait so we decided to provide you with the product via download rather than wait for a physical DVD.

There NOW you know why I not Mark said this....

All I am saying is if that is true...how come the emails haven't starting going out yet? I am just kind of hoping for the nice cd/dvd

Well I think Microsoft still haven't "processed" the W-9's... Bill owns what? The world? his accountants are busy people.... Don't worry, it will get into your computer somehow.

mailto:[email protected]

Email those guys and ask them, they should help answer any of your questions

XPGoD

All I am saying is if that is true...how come the emails haven't starting going out yet? I am just kind of hoping for the nice cd/dvd

As code and TJ32 said, Office will come through mail too, except you'll only get a serial key and probably a location where to download it. It won't be e-mailed to you.

BTW people, Vista is pretty awesome, found drivers easily, installation went faster than XP, and just gotta get used to it now. :)

It doesnt include any games, but you can get them via torrents though ;)

Actually it does. You have to goto Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> Turn Windows Features On and Off. It has alot of games. I like the Mah-Jong and Chess.

All I am saying is if that is true...how come the emails haven't starting going out yet? I am just kind of hoping for the nice cd/dvd

what emails? they are sending us a letter by mail with a cd key and download link for office. we understand you want physical media, but it's not going to happen.

Hey guys , if anyone attended "a new day" launch event, then you got a copy of Office 2007 Professional Plus. This Microsoft package came with a cd that contained a few tips on how Office 2007 and Vista can help your productivity and a download link with a KEY for Office. I proceded to the link and downloaded two files. One was Office 2007 professional, and the other was a complimentary Office accounting 2007 Program.

This is how I am assuming we are going to recieve Office. They will mail you a gift package with the download link and a KEY.

Looks like they are sending them out from Minnesota so the further away the longer it will take.

Well the return address is:

1601 East John

Seattle, WA 98112

So, I think they're being shipped from there.

On the invoice, it says Customer Sold to:

Microsoft

Mark Brown

One Microsoft Way

Redmond, WA 98052

There still hasn't been an answer from most of those who have gotten Vista as to whether they were doing both the Vista and Office offers. So has anyone gotten it who did both offers?

(Sorry for the nagging. Just anxious to get my Vista and wondering if it's only those who just did the Vista offer who are getting it now.)

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