Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

[osirisX]

Looking at those screenshots, it's nice to see Apple make all the developer tools icons have the same theme. What is Xray though? And have all the other apps found in the developer tools gotten icon updates?

[PL_ Veteran]

Slightly off topic:

What if the secret feature in Leopard is multi-touch? :shifty:

[acies]

I was thinking that myself.

[instant.human]

that would be kinda cool but kinda sucky aswell since we would all need new devices to use it which sucks, since you were forced to buy one new to get in favor of the full functionality. they cant do that yet.

apple might release some kind of tablet for multi-touch use but would never entirely add it to the new OS... at least i dont think they would do. ;)

[the evn show]

that would be kinda cool but kinda sucky aswell since we would all need new devices to use it which sucks

Quartz Extreme didn't run on all Macs when 10.2 it was released.

64-bit low-level libraries didn't work on all Macs running 10.3 when it was release.

Some fancy eye-candy wasn't enabled for all Macs running 10.4 when it was released.

LCD Cinema displays wouldn't work on all Macs when they were first released either (without the purchase of a $129 VGA -> ADC adapter, and the USB ports still wouldn't work).

They do the same thing with software: If you want to run up-to-date versions of FinalCut or Aperture then you have to be running the latest edition of Mac OS X. Apple has no issues with coupling their products to new technologies.

since you were forced to buy one new to get in favor of the full functionality. they cant do that yet.

Why not? If Apple doesn't include that feature it'll have more to do with the technology being either incomplete or impractical, not because they want their customers to not buy new hardware.

at least i dont think they would do.

Stick around for a few years and you'll think otherwise.

[PL_ Veteran]

that would be kinda cool but kinda sucky aswell since we would all need new devices to use it which sucks, since you were forced to buy one new to get in favor of the full functionality. they cant do that yet.

apple might release some kind of tablet for multi-touch use but would never entirely add it to the new OS... at least i dont think they would do. ;)

Either they will or won't add it. Adding multi-touch doesn't screw anyone. It's like "Hey, there's this new feature in Leopard that uses this new multi-touch thing. If you were thinking about getting a Mac, get a multi-touch one! If you have a Mac, relax, you can still use a non-touch screen"

With your attitude, we wouldn't have the mouse.

And let's not forget the iPhone Leopard has multi-touch, so if they port it to Mac OS X...I think it's almost certain they will.

[osirisX]

Multi-touch on a Mac wont work. Think about it, do you REALLY want to have your arms out all day long when using a computer? Apple would only do it on a tablet Mac. But they have stated they preferred the iPhone over a full blown tablet Mac.

[PL_ Veteran]

Well they wouldn't have the screen at it's current angle. Methinks it will be tipped more.

I don't see how it could be more painful than having your arms out all day on a KB/mouse.

[osirisX]

Well, I don't know about any of you guys, but my arms are currently resting on my chairs' arms. But more importantly, you reminded me of something I saw over at Macrumors. Some guy tried designing a multi-touch iMac. So bad looking, but the comments were rather hilarious. Oh and he developed this over 3 threads and got the same comment each time.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=296711

[temple_treefrog]

Well, I don't know about any of you guys, but my arms are currently resting on my chairs' arms. But more importantly, you reminded me of something I saw over at Macrumors. Some guy tried designing a multi-touch iMac. So bad looking, but the comments were rather hilarious. Oh and he developed this over 3 threads and got the same comment each time.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=296711

It's nice but I prefer the current iMac design.

[divinatum]

9a423 and 9a422 have both been reported on MacOSForge.org in the launchd section.

http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/launchd/changeset/23247

http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/launchd/changeset/23245

Could be seeing a new build soon. :D

[.Neo]

Sunken is nicer IMO.

This is basically what it would look like:

Edited May 9, 2007 by .Neo

[Simon Veteran]

This is basically what it would look like:

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That does look really nice IMO.

[osirisX]

That's actually pretty nice. Kinda reminds me of when they switched the window controls from floating on the title bar to sunken in.

[.Neo]

That's actually pretty nice. Kinda reminds me of when they switched the window controls from floating on the title bar to sunken in.

Yeah it's the same effect. :)

[Simon Veteran]

Where'd you get that? Is it in Leopard? It can't be an early Tiger beta, since that's a Mighty Mouse CP.

[.Neo]

It's SmoothStripes 5.1.2 with the sunken elements of SmoothStripes 4.1.1 (Panther) on Mac OS X 10.4.9 Tiger.

[osirisX]

Remember Illuminous? Well, some guy decided to make some mock-ups of what he thinks it would look like.

http://macthemes2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16779791

I always love how anything transparent is shown with no overlapping windows or 2 windows that hardly overlap. I do however like the idea of the flipping preferences like widgets have.

[Simon Veteran]

Remember Illuminous? Well, some guy decided to make some mock-ups of what he thinks it would look like.

http://macthemes2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16779791

I always love how anything transparent is shown with no overlapping windows or 2 windows that hardly overlap. I do however like the idea of the flipping preferences like widgets have.

That looks pretty cool, but I think there would be more of a gradient from transparent to non-transparent. Cool idea for preferences, though.

[divinatum]

Wow that black is UGLY. The flipping is kinda cool.

[KeR]

I like the flip part, I could see it being very handy...too bad its just a mockup.

[.Neo]

I don't like those mockups one bit. The flipping widget idea implemented like that is pointless IMO and it's way too Aero-ish for my taste.

[Matt T]

I love the flipping idea but otherwise it looks horrible IMO.

[Jordan Green]

Ye i .Neo i dont like the bllack either apple is white and should stay that way. I dont like the transparency over all the window but some of the actual window features he shown seem pretty nice idea's.

[.Neo]

I honestly don't mind if Apple incorporated some black elements here and there, but this is just over the top. Same goes for the transparency levels.