Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

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Grand Master

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It's been common place that you get a copy of the next OS X copy for Free if the release date has been announced by Apple and then you purchase a Mac after that announcement.

So if they say "it's being released June 16th" and then you went into a computer store after there announcement and bought a Mac that had Tiger on it, you can get a free copy of leopard but you have to pay for the postage and packaging.

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Elliott

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It's been common place that you get a copy of the next OS X copy for Free if the release date has been announced by Apple and then you purchase a Mac after that announcement.

So if they say "it's being released June 16th" and then you went into a computer store after there announcement and bought a Mac that had Tiger on it, you can get a free copy of leopard but you have to pay for the postage and packaging.

"Free" meaning a $20 upgrade-only copy, and I don't think all of that is postage and packaging since it's comes in a manilla envelope. :p

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Ok so I heard everyone speculating which day is going to be the leopard release date, this is my speculation. Considering that if you buy a WWDC 2007 ticket with membership, you will receive a pre-released version of mac osx leopard, which I am assuming is given to you when you order the membership, therefore leopard must be released after this offer ends, or else the pre-release versions would be pointless, correct? So this offer ends June 11, the day of WWDC, so my speculation is that it will be released June 12, the day after WWDC, and yes it is a Tuesday. Any thoughts?

http://developer.apple.com/products/

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PyX

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I am also repeating that it will be released and will start shipping June 12th. But something has to to be released very soon though, maybe in two Tuesdays. It won't be Leopard though :p

The advertisement they have is "Apple TV. Now shipping." and they've had their iPhone ad for wayyyy too long.

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Quillz

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I am also repeating that it will be released and will start shipping June 12th. But something has to to be released very soon though, maybe in two Tuesdays. It won't be Leopard though :p

The advertisement they have is "Apple TV. Now shipping." and they've had their iPhone ad for wayyyy too long.

I don't imagine the iPhone ad going anywhere until something just as big is announced, which isn't Apple TV. The only thing I can see taking away the Spotlight is Leopard. Wouldn't it be convenient if it launched in June, just after the iPhone begins shipping?

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shark1

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Well...

as the time passes..I think this secret stuff is gonna be a disapointement why ?

well Leopard is supposed to be released on spring right ? For a June release, the end of the beta should be around the end of may, so :

- what kind of major inovative secrets stuff gets released 2 months before official release ?

- it hasn't been beta tested (internally maybe but not enough testing for major inovative secrets right, and if they are not major inovative secrets, why keep it secret then ?)

- before Vista was officially in store, I could understand the secrecy, but why now ? I mean who is going to copy these secrets stuff in 2 month ?

Maybe there are some secrets stuff, but my guess is that it won't be anything spectacular or innovative at this point. I'm not very optimistic about it..I don't know about what you guys think ?

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PyX

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Well it seems like they're going to some kind of screen-touching technology, but I doubt they can implant it partially in a computer. If they implant it, the screen would have to be horizontal, not vertical (otherwise it's not practical nor ergonomical).

Oh maybe they'll sell a Mac Tablet (I think it exists already though), then they could implement it partially.

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divinatum

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It's that time of the month again! (No not that time. :rofl: )

Leopard 9a410 has been released to developers.

Known Issues:

Installing

- Migrating or archiving user data from previous Leopard seeds and is not supported. Migrating and archiving from Tiger is fully supported.

- Unable to restore from recent backups when installing

- Unable to use Bluetooth mouse/keyboard in the OS Installer

- Some PPC machines shutdown after installation

iChat

- Video & pictures in iChat theatre sometimes may initially display incorrectly

- Screen Sharing and Internet Sharing checkbox in the Sharing Preference Pane is disabled

PhotoBooth

- Backdrop effects are not functional in PhotoBooth

- If you using PhotoBooth on a machine with a Built In iSight camera then the image will initially be black. Click on another application or the desktop and then click on PhotoBooth again to workaround this. External iSights work properly.

Printing

- Newly added printers may not appear in the Print & Fax System Preference window

- Deleting a printer from the CUPS admin page at 127.0.0.1:631 will stop all apps from launching

QuickTime

- QT Player may crash when playing certain movie types

- QT Player may crash when capturing new movies

Third Party Applications

- Microsoft Word and Excel's Save dialog may not display correctly

Graphics Hardware

- Mac Pros with two video cards may boot to a black screen. Remove one of the cards to workaround

- Graphics corruption has been seen on some systems with NVIDIA GeForce5200 graphics cards

- Graphics corruption and kernel panics have been reported by some users on systems with NVIDIA GeForce2 graphics cards

Miscellaneous

- iCal Syncing is disabled

- iDisk syncing occasionally crashes

- The DirectoryService daemon will crash when enabling Active Directory

- VoiceOver is broken in this build

- Menu extras may not display after clicking on them until you move the mouse

- ImageCapture crashes on PPC machines

- Videos purchased from the iTunes Store do not play

- Intel systems may occasionally hangs when waking from sleep

- Safari may not load web pages in certain situations. Delete "~/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari/__CFURLCacheDefault.db" to workaround this

- Links in plaintext Mail messages may not be displayed as clickable URL's

- The warning dialog that appears when downloading an application from Safari does not appear

- No users listed when enabling sharing for Windows accounts

- Machines may hang during reboot with FileVault enabled

- Cmd-` may not work for toggling through application windows

- Unable to use Screen Sharing with Guest accounts

- Blue focus rings are not drawing for some fields

- IconComposer is disabled in this build. Icons created with previous versions of IconComposer may have visual glitches that are not shipping quality and will need to be regenerated in the next seed of IconComposer

- Hi-Resolution artwork for controls and various widgets are not being displayed at non-1.0 scale factors

- emacs crashes on launch

Changes in Leopard Since 9A377a

Terminal

- Profiles have been renamed as "Window Settings" and workspaces have been renamed as "Window Groups"

- Window Settings can be configured through the "Window Settings" tab of the Terminal preferences or by invoking the Inspector

- Window Settings are not saved automatically. You can save settings through the 'Shell' menu

Miscellaneous

- If you have valid .Mac credentials in the .Mac Preference Pane iDisk syncing will now be enabled by default unless you have explicitly disabled it

- OpenSSL 0.9.6 (which includes libcrypto and libssl) will be included in Leopard as PPC only, not universal. OpenSSL 0.9.7 will still ship in Leopard as a universal library. If you only require SSL consider the Secure Transport framework as an alternative. If you only require cryptographic hash functions consider CommonCrypto

- PCSC framework has been updated. This will continue to work with Tiger reader drivers, although tokends written for Tiger should be retested under Leopard.

- Developer release notes for AppKit and Foundation frameworks have been updated recently

:| Kinda buggy no? I especially like the "- Mac Pros with two video cards may boot to a black screen. Remove one of the cards to workaround"

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.Neo

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The problem with Mac OS X Leopard is that we still don't have a complete picture. Like someone mentioned earlier in the thread all these problems could very well be related to the stripping of features from the developer builds. But then again Mac OS X Leopard could be Apple's version of Windows Vista.

There's just no way of knowing, for us, if the internal builds are facing the same issues.

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divinatum

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So aside from the devastating blow of October release. More news!

-There has been a visual refresh in EVERY app that comes bundled with Leopard.

It now has a look very similar to iTunes 7, as was expected.

-ZFS is present in this build, but is not usable through Disk Utility at this time.

FrontRow remains the 1.3 version from Tiger.

-The Installer does not contain the Daylight Savings Time Patch, however the OS does.

-Arabesque Screensaver is completely redesigned.

-.Mac Sync is highly redesigned.

-Photo Booth works again.

-There are quite a few keyboard shortcuts that do not work right off the bat, however "Restore Defaults" gets them working very quickly.

Build still hasn't leaked on any sites that I can see yet, but when it does Pic's will come. :)

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.Neo

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I saw those EXACT screenshots a while back on a site with Leopard mockups on it. I very much doubt they're real.

Oh and btw, Mac OS X Leopard has officially been delayed until October 2007...

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0704leopard9a410.html

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I saw those EXACT screenshots a while back on a site with Leopard mockups on it. I very much doubt they're real.

Oh and btw, Mac OS X Leopard has officially been delayed until October 2007...

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0704leopard9a410.html

:rofl:, what a Vista!

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PyX

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What's happening :(

Why did they

1. talk about the iPhone soooooo many days before the release

2. delay Leopard because of the iPhone when its interface looked nearly complete back then in January and Leopard is not even 50% done.

That decision is just not good for Mac owners. You can bet that I'm going to at least download the beta - and yes I will end up buying the official product.

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Powerless

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What's happening :(

Why did they

1. talk about the iPhone soooooo many days before the release

2. delay Leopard because of the iPhone when its interface looked nearly complete back then in January and Leopard is not even 50% done.

That decision is just not good for Mac owners. You can bet that I'm going to at least download the beta - and yes I will end up buying the official product.

Well what would you rather have...Leopard...

Released in June, not finished, buggy and unstable.

Released in October, finished, stable, bug-less-ish.

1. Hint; FCC.

2. :huh:

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