Speeding is safer

[VGVL]

Is that really that guy's plate number in his signature? If so, someone needs to pass it along to the local cops.

Don't worry, they know me by name. They even make jokes about it when they do catch me.

One cop, who has stopped me several times, tells me about fast cars he has gotten to drive lately while he's writing me the ticket. He's usually in a specific road with his radar gun, and if there aren't people around, I gun it. He waves back and gives me a thumbs-up.

[Pilsbury]

How come every time I see a thread from you (the op) it involves drifting through public intersections, speeding, and running from the cops? Throw in a bottle of NOS and you got the Fast and the Furious.

Vin Diesel called, he wants his story line back.

Look, it's not always safe to do the speed limit, but I sure as **** am not gonna go bragging on the internet about how I speed everywhere and how I'm gonna do that everywhere. Will you come on here and tell us about how you mowed down some old lady cause she was going too slow through a cross walk? Grow up and obey the law and if you don't want to do that then don't come online bragging about it and include your liscense plate in your signature.

I have to agree with you...

Speeding is NOT safer. Certain speed limits may be based on cars from several years ago, but, they are there for everyone's safety. Driving like an idiot will eventually kill you, or an innocent person. Wonder will you be on Neowin bragging about that when it happens?

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Nice little fantasy world you are living in there Huezo...

[mycoolkim]

haha, so true, friends with cops and all this load of biggest bullshet i haven ever heard. Why do you act all hard? Your sad, and funnier if your just a little kid who thinks his hardcore.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

It really is just pathetic. Claims the speeds he is going, but then claims he has the TIME to flash a thumbs up to a cop and get a wave back. Total BS - why?

1) Would not always be same cop

2) They would find you an easy mark rather than going after hardened criminals

3) They would take what you are doing as being arrogant towards them

What a total pile of BS.

And to whoever posted before that "young drivers could kick older drivers ass" - and herein lies the problem - that attitude that driving on roads is a competitive sport. The people here with the most sense are those who have no desire to "kick ass" because they are mature enough to realise it is about getting from A-B along with everyone else.

[mycoolkim]

Firstly why would anyone especially cops like a young 19 year old? Do they want there kids/wifes in a coffin early?

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Don't forget the cop told him to try to murder people.

[Skiver Veteran]

Let's face it, the worst drivers are the very young (who think they have more talent then they do) and the very old. Those two groups lead the statistics for the most incidents per kilometer driven.

And yes, I did some stupid risky stuff when I was younger too. It's a phase. Teenagers and young adults think they are invincible right up until the point where their luck runs out.

Its funny because i see this post as true but also slightly offensive lol!

Although i have not yet got my lesson (learning) i still count myself as a young driver... yes even i have went over the speed limit but partly because i havent got a feel for the car yet but i dont think im going to be the type of drive as our wonderful OP here... maybe im just not "cool" enough to drive that "safely" but i'd prefer to have to pay to get scrathes re-spraied now and then rather then take away another persons life!

[Inertia]

driving any other speed than anyone else is simply dangerous

I think you need to add a few more constants to that statement, for it to actualy mean something other than everyone in the world should always travel at the same speed as everyone else at all times, this is kind of impossible ;)

[htwho]

Yeah, sure, if that's the excuse you want for speeding, good luck with it. When the cop asks you whats the hurry and you answer with a "I'm keeping myself and my car safe", let me know how many pieces he rips the ticket into.

Exactly my thoughts.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

All of my accidents were while I was stopped...guess I should never stop.

You could as well break a few rules if you stop inappropriately.

hint: don't stop at railway crossings or any intersection really.

hint#2 and this one really bugs me. Some people just don't realize that breaking too soon too fast is pretty damn dangerous, especially on a highway. Something happens and these people just push on a break pedal as hard as they can (this mentality is just so wrong) without realizing that there are cars following them at the same high speed as they were just going.

The key here is too adapt to road conditions. If you see that a car in front of you slowing down, do exactly the same, slow down just as little, keep the distance. There have been so many occasions when there were traffic jams on a highway out of no where and it happens mostly because of a chain reaction when drivers break too fast too soon.

[MiG-]

And to whoever posted before that "young drivers could kick older drivers ass" - and herein lies the problem - that attitude that driving on roads is a competitive sport. The people here with the most sense are those who have no desire to "kick ass" because they are mature enough to realise it is about getting from A-B along with everyone else.

That would have been me...

For a start, if your like 25+ i doubt you could Pass the UK Driving Test, as it is right now. It is a HARD test to pass. For a start, young drivers must demostrate this in order to pass their test. And therefore, you can probably conclude that young drivers can actually driver a lot safer than most drivers.

Its just that most new drivers don't, well i'd say a small percentage actually, but, still.

I Don't see driving as a competitive sport, but if some chuff is coming up behind me at around 40+ in a 30 then my reaction is to put to my foot down at a safe opportunity to do so. I'm only 18, and i know i'm not the best driver in the world, but in comparison with some of the fools i've seen on british roads, i think i'm not doing bad.

I don't see the problem with speeding, as long as you do it in the right places.

The phrase Speeding is safer is obviously false, and the Thread Starter sounds like a Loon on the roads, but heh.... he's not on our roads, so, who cares?

[Pilsbury]

For a start, if your like 25+ i doubt you could Pass the UK Driving Test, as it is right now. It is a HARD test to pass. For a start, young drivers must demostrate this in order to pass their test. And therefore, you can probably conclude that young drivers can actually driver a lot safer than most drivers.

Sorry, while it may be difficult to pass the UK test, it doesn't make people who have just passed their test a safer driver. A larger than average proportion of accidents are caused and involve 17-25 year olds. Most of those are caused by human error, be it speeding, over-confidence, or poor judgement.

[LoTu]

Yes it is a lot harder to pass the UK driving test these days, but at the same time your taught to pass the test with driving lessons, you only learn to drive properly when your out on your own, none of this feeding the steering wheel through your hands crap. Now how your learn after this is all down to how mature you are, and anyway if there daft enough to jump in a car and race along like there Senna and then die, then natural selection is working fine.

On a similar note, I think there should be re-tests for the elderly say 75 and over 'cause so many times have I been stuck behind them doing less than the limit or seen them joining a motorway or busy A road and for lorries have to move out the way because there still doing 40 or whatever and everyone else is up to 70 / 80mph.

MiG

I don't see the problem with speeding, as long as you do it in the right places.

My point of view as well.

Edited June 1, 2007 by LoTu

[Pilsbury]

so many times have I been stuck behind them doing less than the limit or seen them joining a motorway or busy A road and for lorries have to move out the way because there still doing 40 or whatever and everyone else is up to 70 / 80mph.

Driving under the limit isn't illegal - the speed limit is the maximum legal speed, not the recommended. There is technically no minimum speed limit in the UK.

However, you can be prosecuted for careless driving for maintaining too slow a speed.

[Nose Nuggets]

well i didnt read all 11 pages of posts, but i will jump right in.

i think your on the right track, sort of. i dont think that you driving faster then traffic is safer. however, i am a firm believer in the notion that people who drive slightly faster then the flow of traffic, ie 80 in a 65, are much more aware of there surroundings and safer drivers. most people who drive at 50-65 mph are completely zoned out. they are on the phone, doing makeup, eating, hell i have even seen reading. driving is so commonplace and everyday that people dont pay attention while they do it. now, going that speed is not inherently safer by any means, but i know that they are much more attuned to what they are doing.

now, when im riding my bike i will ALWAYS go faster then the flow of traffic, simply because it IS far safer to not be worried about the people behind you. every rider i know, new or experienced, old or young, slow or fast, this is common knowledge. but bikes are a completely different beast. your less visible and here in California, lane splitting is legal so you always have to be on your toes in traffic.

[Samboini]

[sic.]If no-one is around I gun it and the cop waves back

That's one of the funniest things i've ever heard. Do your friends laugh at you as much in real life, because i'm fairly certain the majority of people in here smell the biggest pile of bs since Watergate.

[SacrificialSoldier]

I agree with the idea of this thread... Speeding is safer. But if we were all allowed to speed how then would we speed? ;)

[BGM]

That's not a problem. Speeding tickets are $26 regardless of the speed. That's if they are determined enough to catch me, usually they just back off and figure it's not worth it.

lucky you don't live in the UK ;(

if it was only a fine id speed much more.. caught 4 times and you get banned here :/

[majortom1981]

Sure speeding is safer until you answer your cell phone or somebody swerves infront of you.

[Nose Nuggets]

whats wrong with people swerving in front of you? and i didnt suggest the cell phone instantly reduces your ability to drive. (if you where in fact refering to my post) im just stating that people who drive casually and talk are usualy off in la la land. ill do 120 and talk on a cell phone, or the radio if im on track. but im more focused on the driving then the talking.

i cant ride and talk on the cell yet, my friend can but im not there yet.

[zhangm Supervisor]

The truck driver shouldn't have tried to swerve. Would have been better for all of society if he'd ground those speeders into the asphalt.

[Ajapi]

To me, speed limits have been somewhat unnecessary. Those who know why they were implemented in the first place would realize the absurdity of their nature. That, coupled with the fact that, statistically, roads without speed limits like the autobahn produce about the same amount of accidents as the limited speed ones goes to show that the incidence of accidents has more to do with driver's prudence and skill than with the speed at which they are driving.

Just my humble opinion :)

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

To me, speed limits have been somewhat unnecessary. Those who know why they were implemented in the first place would realize the absurdity of their nature. That, coupled with the fact that, statistically, roads without speed limits like the autobahn produce about the same amount of accidents as the limited speed ones goes to show that the incidence of accidents has more to do with driver's prudence and skill than with the speed at which they are driving.

Just my humble opinion :)

But that's exactly the point. By lifting (or increasing) the speed limit, you will allow those without skill to drive at dangerously high speeds, thus, putting innocent lives at risk. To me, it's like hanging a gun on a silver platter to a killer.

[TheElite]

So you're saying that extra tests, for people with skill, to drive faster is an option to consider?