UEFA Champions League

[Crazysah]

Thats good news for them then!

[L3thal Veteran]

UEFA is going to look over the case again so it doesn't mean that Porto is safe yet.

[Powa]

Porto cheated Man Utd that season! When the linesman said Scholes was offside when he scored and he wasn't. Thus knocking them out of the Cup.

I knew it!!! Haha.

[L3thal Veteran]

Porto cheated Man Utd that season! When the linesman said Scholes was offside when he scored and he wasn't. Thus knocking them out of the Cup.

I knew it!!! Haha.

Too bad the allegations are from domestic matches and not European matches :whistle:

[Alfista]

by the way last years CL draw (quarter finals) was arranged.

no question about it.

i can explain it and show a video if you like as well.

They put little "chips" to those balls. Lets say that person who picks the ball from the basket is mixing his hand in the basket and wants to pick up liverpool. What happens is the chip in liverpool's ball gets shaken and the person easily picks it up.

Fenerbahce and Schalke were the easiest of the 8 teams in the quarter finals. They wanted both of them to be eliminated and was matched with Chelsea and Barcelona respectively. Because a high profile FINAL game brings a lot of revenue to Fifa.

ıf the final was between lets say Fenerbahce and Man Utd uefa would get lets assume 5 million dollars from advertisements. but a chelsea man utd final gives them 3-4 more times of profit.

Final game sponsorships are never decided before the final game.. where as up to semi finals the sponsors are declared for in the beginning of the season.

[L3thal Veteran]

Fenerbahce were awesome last season and they were my pick to make it at least to the semis of the CL but Chelsea had to find a way to win.

I still remember Deivid's goal against Inter in the group stage. That was one of the best strikes I saw last season.

[Crazysah]

Well did Fernebache qualify for the CL this season as Luis Aragones is going there!

[External HDD Veteran]

Fenerbah?e won first leg 2-0 at home, next will be in Budapest. %99 we will qualify this round but group stage, maybe.

[Rappy Veteran]

Fenerbah?e won first leg 2-0 at home, next will be in Budapest. %99 we will qualify this round but group stage, maybe.

Fener have to qualify? did they have a bad season last year?

[External HDD Veteran]

They were 2nd, even Galatasaray who finished 1st plays qualification matches.

[L3thal Veteran]

Fenerbache won 5-0 anyway.

Turkey is not ranked very high in UEFA's rank of clubs so their teams have to play qualification rounds. For example, Portugal is ranked 6th, I believe (or 7th), which means the top 2 teams go directly and a third plays the 3rd stage of qualification, which starts next week.

Of course, Portuguese teams haven't done anything in the last 2 years so starting next year, only the champion goes and second place goes to qualification.

They basically rank country's based on what their teams do in European competitions but it takes a year or two for the performances to take effect so Turkey may have a team go directly next year based on what Fenerbache did last season in the CL.

[External HDD Veteran]

:) Yep, and also EURO 08 will probably help too. If Galatasaray wins over Stetua, Fenerbahce will probably go in the third group when group stages will be decided. I expect a lot from Fener this season but new transfers need a little bit more time to settle.

[Rappy Veteran]

Think its worth a mention Rangers going on the other day to Kaunas was probably the funniest thing ever and saddest because Rangers are a good squad.

[Crazysah]

Think its worth a mention Rangers going on the other day to Kaunas was probably the funniest thing ever and saddest because Rangers are a good squad.

Yeah. I feel really bad for Rangers as they did pretty well in the CL last year or was it the year before?

[L3thal Veteran]

Yeah. I feel really bad for Rangers as they did pretty well in the CL last year or was it the year before?

You mean they did good in the UEFA Cup, not CL :p

Yep, and also EURO 08 will probably help too.

No, the Euro has nothing to do with the rankings for UEFA club competitions. Country rankings only change depending on what clubs from within that country do in European competitions. The Euro just changes FIFA rankings and group leaders when it comes to World Cup/Euro qualifying.

[Rappy Veteran]

Yeah. I feel really bad for Rangers as they did pretty well in the CL last year or was it the year before?

Yeah its Uefa Cup but its a shame because they don't even go into that now!

[L3thal Veteran]

Very surprising indeed. I never even heard of Kaunas.

On another note, the 3rd round qualifiers have some good games: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/

[Crazysah]

Yeah its Uefa Cup but its a shame because they don't even go into that now!

So they aren't even in the UEFA Cup this season?

[Rappy Veteran]

So they aren't even in the UEFA Cup this season?

No its to early the 3rd round losers go into the Uefa but anything before that their euro dream is over for next season.

[Martyn]

Liverpool.

...and breathe!

[Brodel]

typical, haha.

[Martyn]

Why can Liverpool never do it the easy way?

I'm going to need a triple heart bypass by the time I am 25.

[Rappy Veteran]

Certainly not winning games easy this season.

[Shibby]

For a moment I thought liverpool were out, them my hopes were crushed, they scored.

[Martyn]

Group A

Chelsea

AS Roma

Bordeaux

CFR 1907

Group B

Inter Milan

Werder Bremen

Panathanikos

Famagusta

Group C

Barcelona

Sporting Lisbon

Basel

Shakhtah Donestk

Group D

Liverpool

PSV Eindhoven

Marseille

Atletico Madrid

Group E

Man Utd

Villarreal

Celtic

Aalborg

Group F

Lyon

Bayern Munich

Steua Bucharest

Fiorentina

Group G

Arsenal

Porto

Fenerbahce

Dynamo Kiev

Group H

Real Madrid

Juventus

Zenit Saint Petersburg

Borisov

Atletico Madrid :D :D :D!!!