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PsYcHoKiLLa

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On 5/10/2017 at 0:06 PM, margrave said:

It feels like they've been trying to make The Master into a form of The Joker.

 

Now The Joker is my favorite comic book villain, I think The Master is meant to be much more a Moriarty styled character.

He's actually similar to both as he's meant to be a mirrored version of the hero, as Joker is with Batman and Moriarty is to Sherlock Holmes. Equally talented but morally mirrored.

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25 minutes ago, PsYcHoKiLLa said:

He's actually similar to both as he's meant to be a mirrored version of the hero, as Joker is with Batman and Moriarty is to Sherlock Holmes. Equally talented but morally mirrored.

Morally mirrored != insane, which is how he's been portrayed of late... It's ruined the character.  They should have made Gomez be The Rani, she'd have suited that role better, especially with that cybermen story. Experimenting with people is the Rani's thing!

 

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1 hour ago, FloatingFatMan said:

Morally mirrored != insane, which is how he's been portrayed of late... It's ruined the character.  They should have made Gomez be The Rani, she'd have suited that role better, especially with that cybermen story. Experimenting with people is the Rani's thing!

 

Yup, in fact, if I remember correctly that's who many people thought she was going to be.

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On 2017-5-15 at 7:44 PM, margrave said:

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/michelle-gomez-is-leaving-doctor-who-84797.htm

 

Bye bye Missy . . . /tear

Pretty obvious innit? Every

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“My pals are going so I’m going. Everybody’s leaving, so I’m going too. I mean, what would I do without Peter and Steven? Who would I be? Nah, it’s done now. It’s over. It’s the end of a chapter.”

 

Of course there probably is a clause of some sort, that the writer/producer/bigbosswithtehmoney, must provide a clean slate for the newcomer, something along those lines?

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This last one is my favorite Capaldi episode. That was great.

 

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"I'm your friend"

"You are my friend"

 

That scene got me thinking. What if they're brothers? A timelord Cain, and Able if you will.

 

Or if in an even bigger plot twist possibility, with time being nothing to these timelord characters, what if in someway they're the same person!

 

Two different times in his existence crossing paths.

 

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2 hours ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

So this thing with the new companion being lesbian.  It all seems a little forced - we get it.

I'd much prefer if they just didn't have any sexual elements to the show at all. Get back to the monsters, please!

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I mean, ongoing human characters need backstories - and so yeah, if it fleshes out the character then great.  But of the 5 episodes this season we have had to try to hook up at least twice - I'm not here to watch teens try and hookup regardless of gender or sexuality.

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3 hours ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

I mean, ongoing human characters need backstories - and so yeah, if it fleshes out the character then great.  But of the 5 episodes this season we have had to try to hook up at least twice - I'm not here to watch teens try and hookup regardless of gender or sexuality.

So in their efforts to be inclusive of other sexualities (though after Captain Jack, did we need that?), all they've actually done is made gay people look like promiscuous tramps... Well done BBC! Bravo! /golfclap :rolleyes: 

 

 

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On 2017-5-22 at 4:50 PM, FloatingFatMan said:

So in their efforts to be inclusive of other sexualities (though after Captain Jack, did we need that?), all they've actually done is made gay people look like promiscuous tramps... Well done BBC! Bravo! /golfclap :rolleyes: 

 

EXACTLY this!  To convey that a character is gay, they must be show to be having relationships with men...  To establish it's a trait rather than a one-off, it must occur multiple times.

 

But if a character is either straight, or that it doesn't matter to the storyline - no sex.

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1 hour ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

But if a character is either straight, or that it doesn't matter to the storyline - no sex.

Back in Classic Who, I can't think of a SINGLE storyline that had sex, or relationships, or ANYTHING other than some monster of the week or dastardly villain to defeat...

 

I think the closest we got was teenage angst with Ace, and my god was that irritating as all hell...

 

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16 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

Back in Classic Who, I can't think of a SINGLE storyline that had sex, or relationships, or ANYTHING other than some monster of the week or dastardly villain to defeat...

 

I think the closest we got was teenage angst with Ace, and my god was that irritating as all hell...

 

Yeah but can you really compare TV back even in the 80s to TV now? The amount of gore and violence you can see these days is insane compared to back then (which had very little of that) and sex is way more acceptable now then back then as well. I don't see a problem including other sexuality or gender representations in Who (or any media) but if its shoehorned in, its cringy. And I hate that damn word.

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29 minutes ago, LOC said:

I don't see a problem including other sexuality or gender representations in Who (or any media) but if its shoehorned in, its cringy. And I hate that damn word.

Agreed, but with Who, it's always going to be shoehorned in, and then they do everything they can to ram it down your throat, taking it beyond cringy...

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That was truly an exceptional episode of Who. I literally found only one quibble with the episode, and it wasn't the show's fault! Imagine the shock and amazing reaction we could have had not knowing who was coming back and what was coming back. Still, holy crap. Everything from a certain blue smurf scene to the entire episodes music score was spectacularly done. I only have one reservation about next week though, and that's last years finale. Heaven Sent was great also (no where near as good as this episode though) but Hell Bent - not so much (loved the ending though).

 

Also, as a fan of New Who and Classic Who (who used to watch it on PBS back in the  day in Brooklyn) it was pretty rad to see that return. And god they are still creepy looking as all hell. And the voice....

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"Oh.. you're blue, splendid."

 

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Did anyone realize that other guy was John Simm in heavy makeup? I thought they had just hired a different actor until I saw this interview on youtube.

 

 

 

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