iPod Touch - the New Flagship iPod


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Not really...I mean every feature of the ipod, except for wifi, is basically available by other manufactures at much lower prices.

Even within the ipod lineup itself the pricing makes no sense. you have to pay $50 more for the 16gb touch and what you get is 1/10 the storage space of the 160gb and only the addition of wifi and a 1 inch bigger screen. Everything else about the classic is better...battery life, insane amount of storage, the ability to play games.

The touch screen, which seems cool, does nothing but make the ipod even harder to use in most cases.

Your first sentence is vague. Other than possibly Archos who are the other manufacturers? I have never seen an mp3 player with a web browser on it not even wireless.

While your points about the ipod classic are correct battery life, storage, etc. do you get wifi? a browser? but how many games do you play on your current ipod (assuming you have one)? If i didn't get a touch I'd get an 80 because even the 16GB touch is a 4 fold increase over my mini and that isn't even filled! If I got 160 probably 100 of it would go unused.

I complete agree its harder to use on a day to day basis but as a mobile device that is more than an mp3 player I think it has to be for input purposes.

hopefully a messenger app will be added. since the software is exactly the same as the iPhone, so you will be able to hack it and add apps.

there is already an AIM app for the iPhone it will only be a question of time to be in the touch.

the iphone apps are 100% compatible with touch that was confirmed according to gizmodo.

ill be buying the iPod touch 16GB in christmas :p

Yes, it does seem a tad expensive, but everyone is forgetting what you can do on the intarnets and on it's UI itself.. Mail and IM(Meebo... right? Or is it flash?). Calendar which will be Uber important to me. Contacts. I can use the COOLEST phone book around, my iPod. Then theres iTunes so I can look at my favorite songs and then go on my computer and LimeWire them, lol. Then finally, I can watch my videos, listen to my music, browse photo's. and show off one hell of a device to everyone. Just hope I don't get mugged, lol.

Is there anywhere you can actually buy them now? Online it says it won't ship until September 28. Are they already in Apple stores?

Im sure i'll be corrected if wrong, but I thought it was 28th Sept launch everywhere.

If thats the case that would mean the UK actually getting their mitts on thm before the USA!

Here's hopin im right for once! lol

i would love to have one of these to replace my nano as my main music player.

now since i have alot of music, i wonder if it would be possible to create an external hdd that could hold movies and such so all i would have to do to watch movies is hook it up to the ipod and then watch them off of the hdd. this way i have maximum space for music.

Not really...I mean every feature of the ipod, except for wifi, is basically available by other manufactures at much lower prices.

Even within the ipod lineup itself the pricing makes no sense. you have to pay $50 more for the 16gb touch and what you get is 1/10 the storage space of the 160gb and only the addition of wifi and a 1 inch bigger screen. Everything else about the classic is better...battery life, insane amount of storage, the ability to play games.

The touch screen, which seems cool, does nothing but make the ipod even harder to use in most cases.

To me, both the Touch & Classics has their pros & cons against eachother. And I'm still not sure which to get yet. I'm leaning towards the Touch just a bit because I don't want to cry again if the HD dies on the Classic within a year...just like my 5g.

wonder if you could hack a 80gb hd into the touch...

I doubt this very much, as a hard drive is bigger and heavier than flash memory and doesn't just "plug in" to an otherwise flash-based device. In theory, though, you could add a larger capacity flash memory chip to the touch.

Ok, this might sound stupid, but i can say check my gmail account using safari on the touch?

Can you cheack gMail on a web browser?

Don't worry, there will be a third party mail app as soon t3h h4Xz0r5 get their hands on the touch

I was ready to order a 16GB iPod touch but I'm in great doubt at the moment. Right now I can't get over the fact that I'm buying a ?400 costing iPod that can't take notes, can't input calendar event(I think it's insane that Apple pulled this featurafteru> promising it without giving one reason whatsoever)i> and no Mail application. Which means that without access to a Wi-fi connection there's practically no real use for the iPod's touch screen capabilities, and you're stuck with a device that actually does less than the iPod classic and nano as it lacks game support as well.

Edit:

It seems to lack iPod Radio Remote support as well. Things just keep getting better and better:/:/

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Hey, it is being sold in some Apple stores and BestBuy already. Theres also lots of people on eBay selling it (more expensive, of course).

And there are a lot of iPod Touch videos on youtube from people showing their brand new device.

Aaaand some (not all, but I don't know how many) iPod Touch are coming with a defective lcd screen (check here).

Damn I really wished I lived in US or Canada :\

I bought a touch last night. It does have the screen issue but I would bet my life it is not a hardware problem. In a previous life, I edited videos and authored DVDs professionally (some you can still buy in Best Buy and CC) and it looks like they are just crushing the blacks. Take an image into photoshop and crank up your black level up and see if you don't get the same effect. A simple patch (or actual contrast, brightness and gamma controls) should fix the problem.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/levels.htm

Note: I got Apple Care, just in case, so if it turns out to be a hardware issue I will just swap the thing out.

I bought a touch last night. It does have the screen issue but I would bet my life it is not a hardware problem. In a previous life, I edited videos and authored DVDs professionally (some you can still buy in Best Buy and CC) and it looks like they are just crushing the blacks. Take an image into photoshop and crank up your black level up and see if you don't get the same effect. A simple patch (or actual contrast, brightness and gamma controls) should fix the problem.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/levels.htm

Note: I got Apple Care, just in case, so if it turns out to be a hardware issue I will just swap the thing out.

I contacted a guy on youtube that own an ipod touch and he said he got the screen issue but only on videos. As he said, the main menu's black background is solid. If thats true, for sure its not a hardware problem.

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