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ok, so the touch shouldnt have wi-fi, you tube etc, everything we asked for?

If you dont like the touch get a classic or a nano. or even a shuffle or an older ipod off e-bay...

Uh...what?

I never said they shouldn't have those things but people expect the Touch to have the exact same features (minus the phone) as the iPhone. Why is that?

I think it's a bit **** they're charging for the Touch upgrade. Considering new ones will have it built in if I understood, it's just pure money greed. For those saying that it's a mp3 player, I'd say it's more. They included WiFi and other stuff into it, so the underlying technology is there. I think they just want people to buy the iPhone instead, but meh.

right but not everyone wants or needs a phone...

i hate cell phone contracts. they suck you in for 2 years and are way expenstive. Pre-paied or crickit FTW!

Can't see much problem with the rental prices, we pay more for overnight movies, and the max we can get is weekly movies, and it's around the same cost anyway.

Being able to keep it for 30 days is great.

$20 for the iPod update sucks though.

No, you can only keep it for 30 days BEFORE you watch it. Its 24 hrs from when you hit play.

How can that be true when netflix is starting to offer streaming for free with your monthly subscription?

What do you mean how can that be true? It all depends on contracts. We may never know why... all it took is one studio to say no and Apple had to go with what they wanted. But in this case, I doubt it was Apple. Look at iTunes, for the longest time Apple was the cheapest with music sales and has continually gone to bat for their customers so that price stays at .99. Why would they do anything different for video rentals?

Can't see much problem with the rental prices, we pay more for overnight movies, and the max we can get is weekly movies, and it's around the same cost anyway.

Being able to keep it for 30 days is great.

$20 for the iPod update sucks though.

Well, you don't really keep it for 30 days. If it's like Xbox Live, you have 30 days to watch it but once you start it, you only have 24 hours to view it.

Yeah I know what you mean, that's exactly why I don't want one. :)

actually, I disagree.

I've been looking at contract phones lately.

Right now, I'm on PAYG, and am topping up about ?20 - ?25 a month.

With a contract, I'll be paying the same or less (?20 a month), will be able to use the phone more (the minutes and text's in the contract will be more than the ?25 worth I use now), and will get a free phone aswell.

No, you can only keep it for 30 days BEFORE you watch it. Its 24 hrs from when you hit play.

Or I can go to a store and rent a DVD I can only keep for 24 hours before I have to start paying $6 a day in overdue fees, or rent an older one and keep it for a week before I start paying overdue fees. (And why would i want to keep a rented movie for over a month before i watched it?)

iTunes is a better deal in that regard.

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