Sticktron Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 why do i have to install like 100 codec packages very time i format my computer... You don't. There is only one decoder needed to decode almost everything: ffdshow. If there is a specific type of file that you need to decode that ffdshow doesn't support, then you download just that specific codec. Installing tons of codecs (ie. codec packs) leads to nothing but trouble. A typical system needs only ffdshow + Quicktime to decode 99% of the files you're likely to encounter. Throw in Media Player Classic as your host, and you're all set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted January 17, 2008 Global Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2008 You know, even if the DirectShow codec I installed made the registry hack that gets mkv/mp4 to showup in the WMP11 library, that still doesn't change the fact that they show up in the "Other" formats list. I want all my media to show in the same list "Videos". Right now you have to switch between library lists to go from .wmv/.avi/.asf to .mkv/.mp4. And THAT is a MS problem that should be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted January 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2008 You know, even if the DirectShow codec I installed made the registry hack that gets mkv/mp4 to showup in the WMP11 library, Err, it's not a "hack" - it's registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preppy Veteran Posted January 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2008 WMP 1-4: the evolutionary history would be: Media Player 1.0 Media Player 2.0 ActiveMovie 1.0 NetShow 1.0 ActiveMovie 2.0 NetShow 2.0 and then things got folded together in the NetShow / ActiveMovie 3.x timeframe and synchronized to the DirectX Media version numbers, for the most part, which is where you get 5.x from. CDDeluxe and DVDPlayer also got folded in, too, but I suspect most people don't remember those. (Trivia: %windir%\system32\dvdplay.exe should still be on your system. Try running it. ;) ) The only thing *not* folded in was Sound Recorder, of course. You know, even if the DirectShow codec I installed made the registry hack that gets mkv/mp4 to showup in the WMP11 library, that still doesn't change the fact that they show up in the "Other" formats list. I want all my media to show in the same list "Videos". Right now you have to switch between library lists to go from .wmv/.avi/.asf to .mkv/.mp4.And THAT is a MS problem that should be fixed. No, it isn't.Which codec/file filter are you using that does a registry hack to get this to happen? Why aren't they setting PerceivedType? We both would love for them to fix that. It's really easy to fix. It's not Microsoft's job to guess what settings they meant to set. :) Can you get them to fix that too? I'd appreciate it. *thumbs up* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted January 18, 2008 Global Moderator Share Posted January 18, 2008 You seem to be missing my point. Even if you do the registry change, WMP STILL won't show mkv/mp4 files along with wmv and avi files in the same Library view. How is that NOT something MS has to fix/change? And for that matter why is it that WMP can play them fine if you have the codec/filters installed but won't show them in your library from the get go? This isn't something changing or adding to your registry will just make happen. Setting PreceivedType doesn't change the Library list behaior at all. mkv/mp4 or whatever "OTHER" video files you have will still only showup in the "OTHER FORMATS" group, and not in VIDEOS with the rest of your avi and wmv files. I don't see how you figure this is anything but a problem MS should fix/change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANova Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Well, we were happy with media player 10 until 11 came out I prefer 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preppy Veteran Posted January 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) That's not how the documentation says to do it... edit: yeah, I got this working on my own system in about five minutes, and that was the lazy way. Illiminable does this for OGG, I noticed. Pretty straight-forward. But YOU shouldn't have to do this. This should be added by whoever wrote that filter IF they really do plug into WMP nicely. *thumbs up* Edited January 18, 2008 by zachdms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted January 18, 2008 Global Moderator Share Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) I don't even have the following in my registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\MLS\Extensions So, I don't even know where to add the first part, the 2nd stuff is already in there though. Even adding that subkey and doing what it says, I still can't get WMP11 to show my mkv and mp4 files along with my .avi files under VIDEO. So much for that. Any other ideas? Edited January 18, 2008 by GP007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preppy Veteran Posted January 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2008 Let's rephrase what I'm saying: * Teaching you to do that isn't productive. Getting your filter provider to do this IS productive and solves it for everyone. I know you don't. You have to add it. And it has to be a validly registered extension in the Multimedia hive. Four registry values total, if I recall correctly. REALLY EASY. Teaching you to do this isn't helpful. Getting your filter provider to do it IS helpful. What filter are you using to provide this support? You would need to readd those files once you're correctly configured. Teaching one million people to add this by hand will take one million posts. Getting the filter provider to add these correctly takes one correctly placed email and solves it for one million people. What filter provider are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahul Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I only wish that there were some good looking skins for WMP 11 on vista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_X Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Me personally, I have a strong dislike for WMP. It just seems bloated now a days with all the features I don't use. Personally I like the compact cleanliness of Winamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libertas83 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Zachdms is right, its the codec/filter developer's responsibility to support WMP, but most of them don't want to or care to do it. They hate WMP and see it as crappy system and all love foobar or winamp. If I am not mistaken, Microsoft has already moved passed directshow and uses different frameworks nowdays but still has directshow for compatibility. Yet, I don't know anyone outside of WMP that uses the new frameworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i2750 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 In my opinion, it doesn't really matter. I use VLC anyway so I am not affected at all. I don't understand how people get so worked up about this kind of thing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Yeah, I'll just stick with Media Player Classic :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrk Reviews Posted January 22, 2008 Reviews Share Posted January 22, 2008 Meh if they update it or not won't bother me as MPC handles 98% of my videos. I only use WMP to play WMV files and inline content on websites as well as previewing MP3 music :p MPC is just way more powerful and controllable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.bisho Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I only wish that there were some good looking skins for WMP 11 on vista welcome on board=same here ,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I only hope that they don't make WMP12 too flashy like the Zune software. The main reason is because it's a bit of a killer on my graphics card! Then again, my graphics card is simply s**te. It tears on anything 3D, and I have to underclock it to stop the tearing, but the problem with nTune is that is f**ks up my PC to the state that I can only boot properly in safe mode. Luckily, you can use System Restore in Safe Mode. Anyway, back to WMP12. I only have two requests: Don't use too many 3D graphics, if any Please let us sync our Zunes through it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preppy Veteran Posted January 22, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2008 Anyways, adding MPEG4 (.mp4) to the library properly was already covered here anyways: * http://owlet.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!...y?wa=wsignin1.0 It doesn't really matter which player you use, it's just most effective for the people in charge of their various aspects to fix up their badness. I'll try to help advise filter makers to correct themselves same as I've tried to advise MPC and VLC of their particular issues. *shrug* I'm pretty player-agnostic here (ignoring the avatar): we just need everybody to write good software, and when people cut corners that's usually when problems crop up. =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I think WMP 11 looks fantastic on XP, so long as you aren't showing the classic menu. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted January 22, 2008 Global Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2008 Anyways, adding MPEG4 (.mp4) to the library properly was already covered here anyways:* http://owlet.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!...y?wa=wsignin1.0 It doesn't really matter which player you use, it's just most effective for the people in charge of their various aspects to fix up their badness. I'll try to help advise filter makers to correct themselves same as I've tried to advise MPC and VLC of their particular issues. *shrug* I'm pretty player-agnostic here (ignoring the avatar): we just need everybody to write good software, and when people cut corners that's usually when problems crop up. =\ That still doesn't work for me. doing everything and running that registry file still won't add .mp4 files into Video in WMP11 for me. It's still listed under OTHER. But thanks anyways I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preppy Veteran Posted January 22, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2008 Did you add them "new" to the library? If they were already in the library, they're Other now. You would need to remove and readd them. This is extremely the wrong thread for this discussion. This would be much better suited for the Software Discussion & Assistance forum as opposed to hijacking this thread. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I love 10/11, but 9 is my favorite! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewJW Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I have to say I think it was Media player 9 which come with Windows ME was my favorite of all time, it's in the screenshot above. I like Media Player 11 more in Vista than in XP, I agree it looks bulky in XP you can tell it was designed for "glass" in Vista but ported to XP because they somehow felt the need to do so. My main gripe with MP11 is it's reluctance to play "FLAC" encoded tracks, I can get it to play them put it will NOT play an album, it isn't a major issue though as I keep Foobar on side for those file-types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmorya Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 My favorite is WMP11 on Windows Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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