Windows 7 M1 is here...

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So here we're at it, again :p

Over the weekend I finally managed to play with the build.... but disappointed.

One my primary machine, it asked for my SATA driver (never happened when installing Vista, as my drives were set as IDE in BIOS). After adding the driver from my USB thumb drive it would finally install. It didn't boot after first restart, however.

On my laptop it installed perfectly, but with no driver support for the video card. After numerous tries I gave up in the end, so Aero is now left in the dark.

Oh well, so there's nothing to show.

The build is 6.1.6519.

The GUI, as much of you have guessed, is very much like Vista. I don't know if once the right video card driver is in place whether there will be flashy stuffs to surprise me. The system is very responsive, using barely 480MB of memory after boot.

Gadgets are now integrated into explorer. You can right click on desktop and select "Add Gadget" or "Hide Gadget". There is a new gadget called "Windows Media Center" that displays now playing information from the WMC. On the same menu, "Display" is added above "Personalization" which gives you direct access to display DPI settings. The page is much more polished than the one in Vista.

The start menu features a pin besides each item. Clicking on it toggles pinning/unpinning the item. Search in explorer is now states where you search within (usually being within the folder, as in Vista). You can now, however, adjust the size of the search box.

XAML fonts, called the "Composite Fonts" are now added to the font folder. Perhaps WPF will be much more prominent in this release. It's disappointing that I don't have Aero running, or otherwise there might be some interesting stuffs to see.

A new application is added, dubbed the "XPS Viewer", no surprises, either.

Then finally, something interesting came up: the feedback tool. The feedback tool lists the "pillars" of Win 7. You can see that Microsoft is aiming to fine tune this release as the case in XP rather than technological advancement as in 2K. highlights include"network aware", with improved connection tools and detections. It will have the ability to detect which network you're in and switch your settings and devices accordingly; With Live account, you can carry your IE settings and favorites with you; Gadget data caching; New Calculator, Paint, and Wordpad using WPF; install to desktop in 10 mins with only 1 reboot; instant streaming; better battery mileage, etc. All descriptions are scenario-based, so what will actually turn up is still yet to know.

Oh.. how could I miss this. A new boot screen does show up, finally. A full screen Vista-logon screen like boot screen with a beam scrolling across the whole screen near the bottom. Looks nice but reminds me of Win9x (well since XP we've been in the "dark", so surprised to see such a bright boot screen)!

Rock on cache! I managed to save his post.

PS: Please note that this is all speculation. Microsoft haven't confirmed anything or announced what will be in Windows 7 so don't get your hopes up!

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Yeah, those pictures are embarrassingly fake. The only real pictures I know of right now are of MinWin running (the ASCII startup screen someone asked about earlier). The reason for that is they've stripped the NT kernel to the bone and have it running in text only mode without a GUI. They are going to build from that instead of on top of the previous version like they've been doing for years. That should get rid of a lot of legacy garbage, security problems and other bloat. I'm looking forward to it myself, but I really doubt there's much more to see right now. The user interface is usually the last thing that gets completed.

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Yeah, those pictures are embarrassingly fake. The only real pictures I know of right now are of MinWin running (the ASCII startup screen someone asked about earlier). The reason for that is they've stripped the NT kernel to the bone and have it running in text only mode without a GUI. They are going to build from that instead of on top of the previous version like they've been doing for years. That should get rid of a lot of legacy garbage, security problems and other bloat. I'm looking forward to it myself, but I really doubt there's much more to see right now. The user interface is usually the last thing that gets completed.

No.

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No what? No they aren't fake? No they aren't building on a stripped down NT kernel? The user interface isn't one of the last parts to be completed? I know it's hard to type more than one word but give it a try, people might actually be able to understand you.

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i assume your a trek fan so if it is true i wondering what your thoughts are on the next trek film..

oh sorry to stray off topic

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Why do you delete that Windows 7 experiences? Nobody will belive you if you start posting stuff about Windows 7, then deleting them. Also, screenshots will help in proving what you say.

pretty much explained at the beginning of this thread. a good one for neobond tho :p.

As for validity, Neobond will have a say...

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There's no question of it. As others have pointed out, the ridiculous things like Internet Explorer 11, the early Longhorn?style?icons?and?interface,?etc.?Besides?everyone?should?be?used?to?this?by?now.?Every?single?time?a?new?version

of?Windows?is?announced?it's?followed?by?dozens?of?fake?screenshots?and?videos.

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No what? No they aren't fake? No they aren't building on a stripped down NT kernel? I know it's hard to type more than one word but give it a try, people might actually be able to understand you. :rolleyes:

Well, so much of your statement was just plain incorrect it was pretty all-encompassing to just say no. But since you insist, here we go:

Yeah, those pictures are embarrassingly fake. The only real pictures I know of right now are of MinWin running (the ASCII startup screen someone asked about earlier). The reason for that is they've stripped the NT kernel to the bone and have it running in text only mode without a GUI. They are going to build from that instead of on top of the previous version like they've been doing for years. That should get rid of a lot of legacy garbage, security problems and other bloat. I'm looking forward to it myself, but I really doubt there's much more to see right now. The user interface is usually the last thing that gets completed.

Yes, the pictures are laughably fake.

Yes, the only real pictures (I've seen anyway) have been from MinWin.

No to the rest.

MinWin is an effort to "Analyze the dependencies and carve out the lowest, smallest core component of Windows, that would be a standalone, testable slice of Windows, and that--analyzing the dependencies, cutting the lines, the cycles, from MinWin to higher level components, making sure that MinWin doesn't depend on anything else, that it's totally self-contained. It can be built separately from the rest of Windows and run independently."

They aren't scrapping IE, explorer, the DWM or any of what has been Windows NT for the past 15 years. They are just refactoring windows to make it easier to service, , which is what the bulk of your paragraph was about.

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I didn't mean to say they were scrapping IE, Explorer and all that. Of course not, I just meant they were going back to the basics and starting fresh. Obviously IE, the Explorer shell and other programs will be added back. Hopefully rewritten versions of a lot of it but I'm sure plenty of stuff in Vista will be updated and ported over. This gives them a chance to get rid of tons of legacy code though, a lot of backwards compatibility junk that has been holding Windows back and causing problems.

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Indeed, didn't take it long at all. Just over a week since it went to OEM's really. One could assume the bits could leak soon as well, but time will tell that tale.

Also we will see what site scrambles to be the first to take the credit get shut down. :p

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I didn't mean to say they were scrapping IE, Explorer and all that. Of course not, I just meant they were going back to the basics and starting fresh. Obviously IE, the Explorer shell and other programs will be added back. Hopefully rewritten versions of a lot of it but I'm sure plenty of stuff in Vista will be updated and ported over. This gives them a chance to get rid of tons of legacy code though, a lot of backwards compatibility junk that has been holding Windows back and causing problems.

Most likely not. Microsoft cherishes compatibility, which is a key reason they will be a reason a 32-bit version of Windows 7 Client.

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