Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Discussion Thread

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I have a question about the final stats...

I see that he killed 0, do machines count as kills, like if i kill Gekkos or if i kill the frogs on that stage where you meet Meryl or the stage where you ride the bike with Big Mama... what about bosses, does that count too???

Anything human or living counts as a kill.

Machines, geckos, first stage of B&Bs don't count as kills.

The frogs do.

[Corris Veteran]

I have a question about the final stats...

I see that he killed 0, do machines count as kills, like if i kill Gekkos or if i kill the frogs on that stage where you meet Meryl or the stage where you ride the bike with Big Mama... what about bosses, does that count too???

You can kill machines like gekkos, and also the vehicles like seen near the beginning that has a machine gun on the top that fires automatically.

But everything else you can't.

The frogs have to be tranqed, and the bosses too, though you can kill their first stage however if I remember correctly.

[Kushan]

I have a question about the final stats...

I see that he killed 0, do machines count as kills, like if i kill Gekkos or if i kill the frogs on that stage where you meet Meryl or the stage where you ride the bike with Big Mama... what about bosses, does that count too???

Gekkos and those little rolling robot things (Forget the name) do NOT count, however ALL living creatures do - this still applies even if you're riding on the bike with big mama, or on top of Drebin's APC - you still have to use NON-Lethal force! This one in particular is an absolute ****** as an exploding Gekko can sometimes kill PMC's and you get the blame). And bosses also count, stick with non-lethal force for them as well.

[CY:G]

Gekkos and those little rolling robot things (Forget the name) do NOT count, however ALL living creatures do - this still applies even if you're riding on the bike with big mama, or on top of Drebin's APC - you still have to use NON-Lethal force! This one in particular is an absolute ****** as an exploding Gekko can sometimes kill PMC's and you get the blame). And bosses also count, stick with non-lethal force for them as well.

Thats crazy, specially the part with big mama, how the hell are you supposed to finish that part, you basically just have to sit and watch as she drives.

Also, when you first meet Meryl, how do complete that part without killing the frogs, as fas as i know, her unit wont move until you are done with them, do you have to put them all to sleep??

[Richard Hammond]

Havent played the game yet but ive just got hold of the Blu-Ray documentary disc from a friend, 36 min documentary of Kojima talking and then theres an hour and half documentary on MGS4, theres also the Logan adverts, i just watched them and they are a bit odd, does anyone know the story behind them?

[KoL Veteran]

Thats crazy, specially the part with big mama, how the hell are you supposed to finish that part, you basically just have to sit and watch as she drives.

Also, when you first meet Meryl, how do complete that part without killing the frogs, as fas as i know, her unit wont move until you are done with them, do you have to put them all to sleep??

yeah use the Mk. 2 or Solar Gun if you have it. On easy those parts are easy but now I'm playing The Boss Extreme and the Frogs part is really hard.

[Kushan]

Thats crazy, specially the part with big mama, how the hell are you supposed to finish that part, you basically just have to sit and watch as she drives.

Also, when you first meet Meryl, how do complete that part without killing the frogs, as fas as i know, her unit wont move until you are done with them, do you have to put them all to sleep??

Remember, at certain parts of the game (including that part), you have unlimited ammo for nearly all of your weapons, so you can use anything you want. In the bike chase, you can use the sawn-off shotgun with the third ammo type (Forget the name, it's v-jolt or something) to attack anyone giving you bother without killing them. You can ignore the gekkos, they wont bother you much. Oh and the flying beast things are unmanned, so kill as many of THOSE as you like ;).

[CY:G]

Thanks for the tips guys, cant wait to start a second play through... hopefully on the hardest level.

[OzO63]

Just finished act 2.. Who the hell taught Raiden to fight like that? :laugh:

[OzO63]

Been playing it some more tonight, just saved the game and turned it off after I beat Raging Raven

I have to say that this is fast becoming the best game i've ever played.. it just keeps getting better and better. I must have played through the whole motor bike chase scene with my jaw touching the floor! lol. The part where those two PMC hummers flip over the top of you in slow motion made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck :laugh:

I have'nt got so into a game like this in ages.. will be gutted when it ends

[Jimmy0]

Phew just spent the last god knows how long reading the last 30 pages of this thread that I missed. :laugh:

I actually finished the game a few days ago, on Saturday. And it was epic!

Just a quick question: If one unlocks the stealth & bandana on say, easy, can you still use it on a harder difficulty level? (Its been a while since I got them on the previous games and I cannot remember what they were like in regards to stealth and the bandana).

[Kushan]

All your items carry over into your next games (providing you load from the save file) so I presume so.

[FiB3R]

How long until we can stop with the spoiler tags? They are starting to do my head in.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

How long until we can stop with the spoiler tags? They are starting to do my head in.

Well the games been out just over a week.

I hardly say that's long enough, there's still people playing it.

Heck, even games that are months old, it's still pretty harsh to go and discuss the games end in the topic.

Just live with the tags knowing your fellow NW readers appreciate them (Y)

[sn00pie]

Oh, you get to keep all your weapons and items from your first time playing to second? I just need to install and beat Act 5 then I can get on with a kill-less game. :D

[L3thal Veteran]

I will begin Act 5 tomorrow :p

[gigapixels Veteran]

Wow, I just spent over 2 hours reading through just 40% of the info in the Metal Gear Database. There's just so much stuff in there :o

How long until we can stop with the spoiler tags? They are starting to do my head in.

Just press Ctrl+A to highlight all the text on the page and everything is uncovered at once ;)

I'd rather we keep the spoiler tags on for a while for those of us that are still playing it or haven't even had a chance to start yet.

[FiB3R]

Good idea gigapixels, makes for much easer reading. Thanks.

[L3thal Veteran]

Hideo is funny.

I was laughing my ass off when Otacon was telling Snake its time to put in disc 2 :laugh:

[GEIST]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/vie...al-Gear-Solid-4

:D

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/vie...al-Gear-Solid-4

:D

Yahtzee gets his own dedicated thread - https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=645427

:p

[sn00pie]

How do you beat the Screaming Mantis in Act 5? I'm stuck and very frustrated lol I know I use the syringe on myself but I can't seem to shoot the dolls down

[gigapixels Veteran]

Just keep shooting at the dolls, one will eventually drop and you can then pick it up.

[Kushan]

When Fighting Screeming Mantis, I found Using a shotgun yielded better results. Keep the non-lethal ammo loaded and you wont risk hurting anyone, but can still shoot the dolls down

[sn00pie]

What do I shoot the dolls with? The Sniper Rifle is too slow so i dunno...