GTAIV - PS3 vs 360

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Thing is the 360 and PS3 GPUs aren't in the same generation. RSX is a generation older. That makes for a significant difference.

Edit: Reading the reviews looks like the Burnout Paradise comparison, with PS3 having less of a pop-in issue. I have to think that's due to more extensive use of the hard drive in the PS3 versions (since unlike 360 every PS3 has a hard drive so it makes sense to use it as much as possible). I still can't believe Microsoft went and did the Core. It and $100 wireless are the worst two things about the system, well RROD is also terrible :p

Not adding to flamebait or anything but not really, RSX is based on G71 architecture which is same generation as 7900xxx. Xenos is based on R500 which is X1900/X1950 generation so they're technology both based from same era in the PC phase.

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Not adding to flamebait or anything but not really, RSX is based on G71 architecture which is same generation as 7900xxx. Xenos is based on R500 which is X1900/X1950 generation so they're technology both based from same era in the PC phase.

The R520 is the X1800/19x0 generation. The R500 sits in between the two ATI generations in many ways, it's not quite an R600 but it's definitely more feature rich than the X1xxx generation (and the R500 IS the Xenos, nothing else uses this architecture). That 20 makes a big difference, it's much more closely related to the R600.

It's an odd like inconsistency in the numerical codename system. It might be a 500 but in reality it's very different from everything else in the 5xx family of ATI GPUs.

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It's hard to compare the GPU's, nvidia basically took a geforce 7 and tweaked it a bit, but ATI created a whole new architecture for it. It's more closely related to the R600 than anything else (for example, it has unified shaders, the X1xxx range do not).

What a lot of people are missing is that...well...they just don't make games for a living and end up just re-quoting what they read in other articles, articles written by people who also don't make games, or who interviewed people that do and take something they say out of context or blow it out of proportion.

In reality, there are significant advantages and disadvantages to BOTH consoles. While the PS3 may be more powerful, it's a LOT harder to really utilise that power, it balances out.

Think of it this way - the 360 is very easy to use. If you can code a PC game, you can code a 360 game, the libraries used are extremely similar and everything is very familliar.

So it doesn't take you long getting your game up and running. That's great, because it means you've got longer to tweak it and optimise it, to really get the most from it.

The PS3, on the other hand, is a lot trickier to handle. It takes a bit longer to get it up and running and although it might be faster initially, it takes MUCH longer to tweak it and it's also a lot harder to do so, so you spend less time doing it (or rather, it simply doesn't get tweaked as much). In the end, they both end up at roughly the same power.

There's marginal differences here and there, but they're minute and not going to take away from your game experience at all.

Even the live vs. PSN debate is all pointless, because while Live may be better overall, PSN is free. Swings and roundabouts. Personally, I prefer free over anything else, but I've still got a live subscription, so go figure.

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Games like this do benefit from installing/caching...

I'm disappointed as rumour was the 360 would have an optional install, but it doesn't.

Damn MS and their choice to separate the market with the tard pack!!

The game does have a semi-lengthy load everytime you turn it on. It must be about 20-30 seconds like that article said.

No load times after that, but there is fairly bad pop in at times. Like if you're driving fast, sometimes the whole road texture will just pop in, previously it isn't there at all - It's not a see through road, it's just like a road that's all one colour - No texture to it.

Or if you turn around, sometimes objects will just "appear". It's not "bad", and it's what we're used to with GTA, however I'm sure caching like it does on the PS3 version will help.

As for the slight gfx differences, "big deal" - It's a good looking game on the scale of things, but it's textures ain't gonna win any huge awards compared to games on a smaller scale - Like Bioshock, Uncharted, ect.

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Goddamnit, As a Wii, owner, I really am torn down on deciding whether I should get the PS3 or the Xbox360 now! :( I am buying this console for GTA4, but I also want a console that will have good games in the future and have a good online system. I really wonder how godo the PSN system will be compared to Live in the future.

This is really driving me nuts as I just can't decide which console to get. :(

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Goddamnit, As a Wii, owner, I really am torn down on deciding whether I should get the PS3 or the Xbox360 now! :( I am buying this console for GTA4, but I also want a console that will have good games in the future and have a good online system. I really wonder how godo the PSN system will be compared to Live in the future.

This is really driving me nuts as I just can't decide which console to get. :(

360 IMO. It has the best selection right now, and it's definitely got a ton of good games coming up in the future. I love my PS3, but I love my 360 more :laugh:

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Goddamnit, As a Wii, owner, I really am torn down on deciding whether I should get the PS3 or the Xbox360 now! :( I am buying this console for GTA4, but I also want a console that will have good games in the future and have a good online system. I really wonder how godo the PSN system will be compared to Live in the future.

This is really driving me nuts as I just can't decide which console to get. :(

PSN will build up to compare with Live, either on par (each with pro's and con's), or potentially pushing the envelope. There will be a 2D enviroment (XMB) and a 3D enviroment (Home).

So really, basing your purchase should come down to games. Did you own a PS2, did you own an Xbox?

Finally, take what everyone says as a recommendation, but you must understand everyone has their own bias' :p

A lot of people will tell you "PSN WILL SUCK FOREVER!!!111", but im optimistic it will deliver well this year. Just depends who you hear from, what you'll hear ;)

But you're in the right mindset, don't buy a console just for GTA4, make sure the other titles/features of the console you'll buy will tide you over for the future! A typical console lifespan should at least push 4-5 years and then go from there towards 10.

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Yeah, the PSN never works, it's total BS.

Oh wait... it's because I always lose the signal of my wireless router. Is it even possible to have a wireless router that works?

My wireless router works fine - Netgear DG834PN

Try updating your router firmware, mine used to drop wireless signals a lot, even from the PC, till I updated.

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Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

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Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

Trust me, I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

LONG LIVE THE PLAYSTATION.

There's one in ever crowd. :rolleyes:

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Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

Trust me, I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

LONG LIVE THE PLAYSTATION.

You do realise that being a hardcore fanboy and spreading guff around only puts people OFF buying the thing you want to peddle, right? Nobody's going to look at your post and think "oh right, that's a truly informed opinion and my mind is made up", they're just going to go "oh god he's one of THEM, I wonder if they're all like that...".

Seriously, grow up, both consoles are excellent and that's the truth, whatever the guy decides to get he'll be more than happy with.

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You do realise that being a hardcore fanboy and spreading guff around only puts people OFF buying the thing you want to peddle, right? Nobody's going to look at your post and think "oh right, that's a truly informed opinion and my mind is made up", they're just going to go "oh god he's one of THEM, I wonder if they're all like that...".

Seriously, grow up, both consoles are excellent and that's the truth, whatever the guy decides to get he'll be more than happy with.

what isn't true about what he said though? It's a proven fact that the 360 is the most unreliable console ever made. I mean yeah his post was definitely a fanboyish rant. But in reality what he said is true.

Anyways, this thread has gone completely off topic. How about we get back to the GTA discussion.

If I end up getting the game, which is still undecided, I will buy it for ps3.

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what isn't true about what he said though? It's a proven fact that the 360 is the most unreliable console ever made. I mean yeah his post was definitely a fanboyish rant. But in reality what he said is true.

What he failed to mention is that OLDER models of the 360 have the potential RROD problem, but later ones don't (or at least it's nowhere near as bad as before, I've yet to see anyone with a "falcon" report the RROD). So if someone DID go out and get a 360 today, it's likely not going to be an issue for them, so why mention it at all?

And why only mention negative points about the 360 and positive ones about the PS3? Why not be fair and admit that while the 360 had issues with reliability, the PS3 has issues with it's online store, or some games require hard drive installs, or whatever? Why not just be a man and admit that both consoles have their pros and cons and none of them should really be affecting your judgement because you're buying it for the GAMES?

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Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

You convinced me, just put my 360 and all the games in the bin. Now I am out to get a PS3!! :rolleyes:

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Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

You do talk some utter trash, im expecting you have never played on a 360. Most of the stuff you say is just opinion and not hard fact.

PS3 is not more versitile and reliabe. My PS3 failed me on my first day, at the same time my premium RRoD'd once and my Wii CD Drive died and has just died again (furious about not being able to play wii fitness) Yeah 360 may have higher failure rate but this is starting to be less and less common, my Elite is great and has been on for days on end with no RRoD.

Being the Best blu-ray player is debatable, im not complaining because i think its great but others may think a dedicated blu-ray player is better.

Still has lots and lots of problems compared to live, i play call of duty 4 on PS3 and have it for xbox too, the experience is much better on live, far better. Less to no disconnections on live and lower ping rates. The 360 has had movie downloads, achievements, game downloads for ages. So whats sony doing new?

I Would not say there is a great selection of games, not by long shot, the AAA titles are far too expensive on the PS3 with the exception of GT5:P (but thats a demo!) and there is not THAT MANY out there, whereas 360 already has killer titles. Say what you want but with titles like Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey the 360 has a better offering at this point of time. Fair enough MGS4 is coming for PS3 but its not here yet. Who cares about a game thats releasing in future, i CARE about NOW. I have more games for my 360 than my PS3 main reasons are live, pricing of games and DLC, keeping this ontopic GTA4 for the 360 will have DLC so theres another reason why i went for the 360 version as oppose to the PS3 one.

Microsoft does not make people buy the console what are you trippin on? People buy with thier own intuition and pockets, at this point of time its cheaper than PS3 and has a wider library of games so offcourse people will buy it. I was not dissapointed and many others are not, its a shame people like you who have never owned or played on it just make trash up like that.

10 million + people on xbox live disagree with you, and im sure many others who dont have will. Its by far the best online service and will be for years to come. It is getting better and will have more new offerings that IPTV. Its just you dont know about them, they could have anything cooking up there in redmond. If you think xbox live is a place where you can only download stuff then you are mistaken and very uninformed. Making uneducated guesses like that isnt going to get you any brownie points here. Xbox live has demos, arcade games, full game downloads, Old Xbox Classics, Movies and rentals. There is MSN aswell so xbox live users (Gold and Silver) are connected to one of the biggest IM networks out there. The friend list on live is great, has the ability to join games and invite, i was unable to join a game on COD4 on PS3 i had to launch it and then send an invite. Its minor but after seeing how easy it is on live it makes the ps3 look irritating (home may solve this problem but we will see)

I dont believe you have ever like microsoft or the xbox i think you just said that so you dont get branded as a fanboy, your not doing a good job like.

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You do talk some utter trash, im expecting you have never played on a 360. Most of the stuff you say is just opinion and not hard fact.

PS3 is not more versitile and reliabe. My PS3 failed me on my first day, at the same time my premium RRoD'd once and my Wii CD Drive died and has just died again (furious about not being able to play wii fitness) Yeah 360 may have higher failure rate but this is starting to be less and less common, my Elite is great and has been on for days on end with no RRoD.

Being the Best blu-ray player is debatable, im not complaining because i think its great but others may think a dedicated blu-ray player is better.

Still has lots and lots of problems compared to live, i play call of duty 4 on PS3 and have it for xbox too, the experience is much better on live, far better. Less to no disconnections on live and lower ping rates. The 360 has had movie downloads, achievements, game downloads for ages. So whats sony doing new?

I Would not say there is a great selection of games, not by long shot, the AAA titles are far too expensive on the PS3 with the exception of GT5:P (but thats a demo!) and there is not THAT MANY out there, whereas 360 already has killer titles. Say what you want but with titles like Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey the 360 has a better offering at this point of time. Fair enough MGS4 is coming for PS3 but its not here yet. Who cares about a game thats releasing in future, i CARE about NOW. I have more games for my 360 than my PS3 main reasons are live, pricing of games and DLC, keeping this ontopic GTA4 for the 360 will have DLC so theres another reason why i went for the 360 version as oppose to the PS3 one.

Microsoft does not make people buy the console what are you trippin on? People buy with thier own intuition and pockets, at this point of time its cheaper than PS3 and has a wider library of games so offcourse people will buy it. I was not dissapointed and many others are not, its a shame people like you who have never owned or played on it just make trash up like that.

10 million + people on xbox live disagree with you, and im sure many others who dont have will. Its by far the best online service and will be for years to come. It is getting better and will have more new offerings that IPTV. Its just you dont know about them, they could have anything cooking up there in redmond. If you think xbox live is a place where you can only download stuff then you are mistaken and very uninformed. Making uneducated guesses like that isnt going to get you any brownie points here. Xbox live has demos, arcade games, full game downloads, Old Xbox Classics, Movies and rentals. There is MSN aswell so xbox live users (Gold and Silver) are connected to one of the biggest IM networks out there. The friend list on live is great, has the ability to join games and invite, i was unable to join a game on COD4 on PS3 i had to launch it and then send an invite. Its minor but after seeing how easy it is on live it makes the ps3 look irritating (home may solve this problem but we will see)

I dont believe you have ever like microsoft or the xbox i think you just said that so you dont get branded as a fanboy, your not doing a good job like.

There can be 10 million on live, but doesn't matter if none of your friends got GTA 4 on Xbox 360. So, as said before, go for the version that most of your friends are getting. That's the only difference I would care about.

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My wireless router works fine - Netgear DG834PN

Try updating your router firmware, mine used to drop wireless signals a lot, even from the PC, till I updated.

Hm yeah, netgear is more reliable than Linksys I think. The sad thing is, I DO have the latest firmware. And calling Linksys isn't really going to help because they won't get it replaced and I don't feel like speaking english for 2-3 hours with a dude that doesn't even know how to speak english (hell I'm french-canadian and I speak better than them, there must be something wrong)

But I don't see how the PSN can suck compared to xbox live, that was my main point :p

Ok ok ok, you can speak to the others, I agree it must be cool, but still, you pay for the headphone combined with a mic, and you pay a monthly fee.

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What he failed to mention is that OLDER models of the 360 have the potential RROD problem, but later ones don't (or at least it's nowhere near as bad as before, I've yet to see anyone with a "falcon" report the RROD). So if someone DID go out and get a 360 today, it's likely not going to be an issue for them, so why mention it at all?

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http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=7931

http://n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-71365.aspx

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=22609

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173132

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^^^The fact that you can find posts like that is completely irrelevant to the point he was making that newer 360's are far more reliable (not to mention that two of those links are the same article).

If people cared about RROD as much as the PS3 camp would have everyone think, there'd be no reason that the 360 should've reached 19 million sold, up 74% from a year ago.

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Image: Jonathan Borba via Pexels Signal accused the UK government of using child safety and device-level explicit content ban as a cover for mass surveillance. Calling the plan "dystopian," Signal warned that it violates everyone's fundamental right to privacy. The messaging platform believes that the government should keep children "safe" and "protected," but it should do so through social services and education. Fears of social media regulation Image via DepositPhotos.com More governments across the globe are tightening their grip on social media and bringing stricter regulations in the name of child safety. Bluesky COO, Rose Wang, warned that social media regulations could destroy competition from small startups and that heavy regulatory compliance costs favor deep-pocketed tech giants while locking out new entrants. Our Features Image: Pexels Our coffee-powered team publishes a platter of editorials, opinion posts, and guides. Here's what they got for the week: UK **** blockers are a looming privacy disaster, we must be able to see the source code This week in software news Image: Proton Catch up on some of the latest software news updates that arrived throughout the week: Dark clouds over PC makers: Building on our report from last month, Dell officially acknowledged that its own remediation software was causing BSOD issues and unexpected system restarts. HP is also facing equally frustrating issues involving recent Windows Secure Boot updates on Windows 11. Controversial icon: Spotify finally removed the disco ball icon from its app and replaced it with the familiar flat green logo after weeks of mixed reactions online. While some people don't like the new design, the retro, three-dimensional look has generated a following of its own. Even other brands are coming up with their versions of the disco logo. NVIDIA fixes stuff: A new hotfix driver 610.52 fixes various issues related to monitors and displays, noting that G-SYNC-related frame pacing troubles should now be resolved on Ada Lovelace GPUs. The feedback thread also points out that the hotfix patches a BSOD issue. FIFA World Cup tracker: Opera is redesigning its Android browser with a built-in football tracker for the upcoming World Cup in the US. The new homepage is now "more immersive" with easier access to common browser features. Command line for Proton: The Swiss technology company has launched a command line version of the Proton Drive, which you can use to manage your encrypted files directly from a terminal across all major platforms, including Windows, macOS, and Linux. This week in hardware news Image: Thermaltake Catch up on some of the latest software news updates that arrived throughout the week: Intel and AMD PCs in one case: Thermaltake's CAPO X dual-system chassis brings you the best of both worlds by supporting two microATX (mATX) motherboards and up to two 360 mm AIO liquid coolers. If you want ideas, maybe you can use one as your main PC and another as an AI agent. Google Tensor production: While TSMC will remain the lead producer, the search giant is reportedly in talks with Samsung to hand over part of the production of its next-generation Tensor AI chips. The upcoming TPUs are reportedly codenamed “Icefish” and will be produced using Samsung's 2-nanometer process technology. Lethal fake phone chargers: UK-based consumer rights organization Which? has warned that "potentially lethal knock-off chargers" are still being sold on online marketplaces, including Amazon and eBay, despite the dangers of such chargers having been exposed. This week in Google News Image: Google Catch up on some of the latest Google news updates that arrived throughout the week: Sliding into DMs: You might remember that YouTube had a direct messaging feature back in the day. It's now rolling out a revamped direct messaging inbox that lets you share Shorts, videos, and live streams and have conversations about them. New in NotebookLM: The AI-powered note-taking app got some new agentic capabilities and more advanced reasoning, thanks to support for Gemini 3.5 and Antigravity. NotebookLM can now generate outputs in more formats, making it easier to start new projects with less information. This week in Apple News Image: Apple Catch up on some of the latest Apple news updates that arrived throughout the week: WWDC 2026: This week was all about Apple's annual developer conference, where the iPhone-maker finally unveiled an upgraded Siri AI and a platter of new Apple Intelligence features. Siri AI now has a cross-platform app, which is supported on select models of iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, and Vision Pro. What's different about WWDC: I wrote a detailed feature this week discussing how Apple changed the WWDC keynote this year, blurring the lines between its operating systems. Apple didn't have dedicated segments for its operating systems this year and didn't even publish the official press releases. Liquid Glass slider (finally): It's that time of the year when Apple previews fresh updates for iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, AirPods, and other platforms. A new transparency slider for Liquid Glass is coming to iOS 27, iPadOS 27, and macOS 27 Golden Gate. Is your device supported?: If you're wondering whether your Apple device supports the new developer beta builds, you can check the respective compatibility lists for iOS 27, iPadOS 27, macOS 27, and watchOS 27. Siri AI not coming to Europe: Yes, that's true due to complications related to the Digital Markets Act (DMA). While Apple penned a blog post to tell its side of the story, a European Commission spokesperson told Neowin that the DMA does not prohibit Apple from launching its services in the EU; the company is simply required to comply with the law. New child safety features: Apple announced a trove of new safety features for kids, including a simpler setup experience for parents, Ask to Browse, Time Allowances, and a redesigned Screen Time UI. Parents can now visit a new website to find answers to common questions around child safety features. More cloud power: Apple's Private Cloud Compute cloud infrastructure will now run beyond its own data centers for the first time. It's working with Google and NVIDIA to run new Apple Intelligence workloads on Google Cloud systems powered by NVIDIA GPUs. This week in Meta news Catch up on the latest Meta news updates that arrived throughout the week: Data from outside: Meta is rolling out a new update globally to personalize your AI responses and primary feeds using data from outside businesses. It already targets ads based on shopping activity, but the latest development enables it to personalize other "parts of your experience." There is a toggle in the Settings to disable activity from other businesses; however, it won't prevent companies from sending your data to Meta. Level playing field: The European Commission has ordered the social media giant to restore access to WhatsApp for third-party AI chatbots, including ChatGPT and Copilot. Meta previously blocked rival AI chatbots from operating on WhatsApp, prompting the Commission to launch an antitrust investigation. Spying on users: On the flip side, WhatsApp accused the Israeli cyber-intelligence firm, NSO Group, of deploying a fresh wave of targeted "spear phishing" attacks against its users, which were thwarted by WhatsApp's security teams. Reorder profile grid: Adding some customization for the profile grid feature, Instagram now lets you rearrange posts in your profile without deleting and reuploading content. Go to your profile and long-press any thumbnail to find the "Reorder grid" option. This week in AI news Catch up on the latest artificial intelligence news updates that arrived throughout the week: Claude RAM hogger: Windows users are getting infuriated by Claude Desktop's hidden 1.8GB Hyper-V VM bug, which spins up if you use Claude Cowork or agent mode even once. It shows a Vmmem process in Task Manager, indicating 0% CPU usage but 1.8GB of RAM usage. Claude Fable 5: The new state-of-the-art AI model from Anthropic beats OpenAI's ChatGPT-5.5 in multiple AI benchmarks. Claude Fable 5 sits above the Opus models and outperforms most other generally available models across knowledge work, vision, scientific research, and more. However, the model was abruptly suspended after receiving an export control directive from the US government. Stack Overflow for AI agents: The popular Q&A platform has launched Stack Overflow for Agents in beta, which AI agents can use to share, find, and reuse coding knowledge. It explained that AI agents operate in isolation, creating an Ephemeral Intelligence Gap, and valuable tokens are wasted on something another agent has already solved. Upgrading Codex: OpenAI is buying a company called Ona, which makes secure cloud execution and orchestration technology for developers. The ChatGPT-maker aims to make Codex agents run for days without being tied to a local machine or an active session. It also announced a new developer mode in Chrome. This week in open-source news Catch up on some of the latest open-source and Linux updates that arrived throughout the week: Linux 7.1 rc7: Linux Torvalds dropped an optimized rc7 with crucial fixes for AMD and laptop hardware. He said that a stable version of Linux 7.1 could arrive next week, adding that the latest RC is not small, but smaller than recent releases. Alpine Linux 3.24: The latest Alpine Linux release added support for COSMIC Desktop, Linux 6.18, IPv6 installer support, automatic serial console configuration for headless setups, and major package updates and removals. This week in Microsoft News Microsoft had to shut down more than 70 GitHub repos after they were compromised by malware, Teams is getting a controversial tracking feature that users may hate, and the company explained why the new update makes PowerToys faster. You can check out Taras's freshly baked Microsoft Weekly roundup to catch up on all the interesting stories this week. This week in gaming The latest issue of Pulasthi's Weekend PC Game Deals curates several exciting games on sale this week. On the Epic Games Store, the new titles on display for grabs include Warhammer 40K Speed Freeks and The Ouroboros King. NVIDIA GeForce NOW's summer sale lowered the prices of both the Performance and Ultimate membership options for a limited time period. Meanwhile, the Xbox Free Play Days brought Undead Labs' post-apocalyptic title State of Decay 2, as well as two Team17-published titles. That said, here are some more stories from the gaming world: Dragon's Dogma 2: Dark Arisen expansion to bring snowy region, new updates also coming Playground drops 30 minutes of Fable gameplay, shows off life sim and morality system Playground Games confirms Forza Horizon 6 save wipe bug Doom: The Dark Ages Revelations expansion gives the Slayer a brutal Chain Spear State of Decay 3 is out in 2027, reveals Plague Nests with new co-op gameplay trailer From the review corner This week, Taras got his hands on the DuRoBo Krono portable e-ink reader, which comes with a $279 price tag. It's a smartphone-sized device with a rotating dial, sitting somewhere between premium and cheap in terms of build quality. Speaking of the pros, the physical controls are cool, the smart dial is useful, the battery life is good, and Android 15 has no-nonsense software. On the flip side, the device lacks software customization, the built-in AI needs improvement, the smart dial is a bit wobbly, and there is no ambient light sensor. EA Sports UFC 6 EA Sports UFC 6 does a better job at onboarding new players than most fighting games, according to Pulasthi's detailed review. The game comes with rewarding combat systems, top-notch animation, impressive impact physics, and visible damage on fighters. However, the menus lag a lot, grappling isn't very fun, and the flow state feels a little misplaced. More price drops! We got you covered with some hot tech deals all week. For some reason, if you missed out on a great discount, here is a summary of some recent deals that are still alive: GIGABYTE Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC ICE 16G - $649.99 (13% off) 1TB Samsung T7 Portable SSD - $189.98 (31% off) AirPods Pro 3 - $179 ($50 off) Edifier R1280Ts Powered Bookshelf Speakers - $129.99 (24% off) To view all of our recent deals, click here. So, these were some of the biggest tech news and other updates from this week. There will be more issues of our 7 Days series in the coming weeks and months, so stay tuned. You can also support Neowin by registering for a free member account or subscribing to extra member benefits, along with an ad-free tier option. Have a great weekend!

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