GTAIV - PS3 vs 360


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Thing is the 360 and PS3 GPUs aren't in the same generation. RSX is a generation older. That makes for a significant difference.

Edit: Reading the reviews looks like the Burnout Paradise comparison, with PS3 having less of a pop-in issue. I have to think that's due to more extensive use of the hard drive in the PS3 versions (since unlike 360 every PS3 has a hard drive so it makes sense to use it as much as possible). I still can't believe Microsoft went and did the Core. It and $100 wireless are the worst two things about the system, well RROD is also terrible :p

Not adding to flamebait or anything but not really, RSX is based on G71 architecture which is same generation as 7900xxx. Xenos is based on R500 which is X1900/X1950 generation so they're technology both based from same era in the PC phase.

Not adding to flamebait or anything but not really, RSX is based on G71 architecture which is same generation as 7900xxx. Xenos is based on R500 which is X1900/X1950 generation so they're technology both based from same era in the PC phase.

The R520 is the X1800/19x0 generation. The R500 sits in between the two ATI generations in many ways, it's not quite an R600 but it's definitely more feature rich than the X1xxx generation (and the R500 IS the Xenos, nothing else uses this architecture). That 20 makes a big difference, it's much more closely related to the R600.

It's an odd like inconsistency in the numerical codename system. It might be a 500 but in reality it's very different from everything else in the 5xx family of ATI GPUs.

It's hard to compare the GPU's, nvidia basically took a geforce 7 and tweaked it a bit, but ATI created a whole new architecture for it. It's more closely related to the R600 than anything else (for example, it has unified shaders, the X1xxx range do not).

What a lot of people are missing is that...well...they just don't make games for a living and end up just re-quoting what they read in other articles, articles written by people who also don't make games, or who interviewed people that do and take something they say out of context or blow it out of proportion.

In reality, there are significant advantages and disadvantages to BOTH consoles. While the PS3 may be more powerful, it's a LOT harder to really utilise that power, it balances out.

Think of it this way - the 360 is very easy to use. If you can code a PC game, you can code a 360 game, the libraries used are extremely similar and everything is very familliar.

So it doesn't take you long getting your game up and running. That's great, because it means you've got longer to tweak it and optimise it, to really get the most from it.

The PS3, on the other hand, is a lot trickier to handle. It takes a bit longer to get it up and running and although it might be faster initially, it takes MUCH longer to tweak it and it's also a lot harder to do so, so you spend less time doing it (or rather, it simply doesn't get tweaked as much). In the end, they both end up at roughly the same power.

There's marginal differences here and there, but they're minute and not going to take away from your game experience at all.

Even the live vs. PSN debate is all pointless, because while Live may be better overall, PSN is free. Swings and roundabouts. Personally, I prefer free over anything else, but I've still got a live subscription, so go figure.

Games like this do benefit from installing/caching...

I'm disappointed as rumour was the 360 would have an optional install, but it doesn't.

Damn MS and their choice to separate the market with the tard pack!!

The game does have a semi-lengthy load everytime you turn it on. It must be about 20-30 seconds like that article said.

No load times after that, but there is fairly bad pop in at times. Like if you're driving fast, sometimes the whole road texture will just pop in, previously it isn't there at all - It's not a see through road, it's just like a road that's all one colour - No texture to it.

Or if you turn around, sometimes objects will just "appear". It's not "bad", and it's what we're used to with GTA, however I'm sure caching like it does on the PS3 version will help.

As for the slight gfx differences, "big deal" - It's a good looking game on the scale of things, but it's textures ain't gonna win any huge awards compared to games on a smaller scale - Like Bioshock, Uncharted, ect.

Goddamnit, As a Wii, owner, I really am torn down on deciding whether I should get the PS3 or the Xbox360 now! :( I am buying this console for GTA4, but I also want a console that will have good games in the future and have a good online system. I really wonder how godo the PSN system will be compared to Live in the future.

This is really driving me nuts as I just can't decide which console to get. :(

Goddamnit, As a Wii, owner, I really am torn down on deciding whether I should get the PS3 or the Xbox360 now! :( I am buying this console for GTA4, but I also want a console that will have good games in the future and have a good online system. I really wonder how godo the PSN system will be compared to Live in the future.

This is really driving me nuts as I just can't decide which console to get. :(

360 IMO. It has the best selection right now, and it's definitely got a ton of good games coming up in the future. I love my PS3, but I love my 360 more :laugh:

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Goddamnit, As a Wii, owner, I really am torn down on deciding whether I should get the PS3 or the Xbox360 now! :( I am buying this console for GTA4, but I also want a console that will have good games in the future and have a good online system. I really wonder how godo the PSN system will be compared to Live in the future.

This is really driving me nuts as I just can't decide which console to get. :(

PSN will build up to compare with Live, either on par (each with pro's and con's), or potentially pushing the envelope. There will be a 2D enviroment (XMB) and a 3D enviroment (Home).

So really, basing your purchase should come down to games. Did you own a PS2, did you own an Xbox?

Finally, take what everyone says as a recommendation, but you must understand everyone has their own bias' :p

A lot of people will tell you "PSN WILL SUCK FOREVER!!!111", but im optimistic it will deliver well this year. Just depends who you hear from, what you'll hear ;)

But you're in the right mindset, don't buy a console just for GTA4, make sure the other titles/features of the console you'll buy will tide you over for the future! A typical console lifespan should at least push 4-5 years and then go from there towards 10.

Yeah, the PSN never works, it's total BS.

Oh wait... it's because I always lose the signal of my wireless router. Is it even possible to have a wireless router that works?

My wireless router works fine - Netgear DG834PN

Try updating your router firmware, mine used to drop wireless signals a lot, even from the PC, till I updated.

Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

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Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

Trust me, I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

LONG LIVE THE PLAYSTATION.

There's one in ever crowd. :rolleyes:

Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

Trust me, I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

LONG LIVE THE PLAYSTATION.

You do realise that being a hardcore fanboy and spreading guff around only puts people OFF buying the thing you want to peddle, right? Nobody's going to look at your post and think "oh right, that's a truly informed opinion and my mind is made up", they're just going to go "oh god he's one of THEM, I wonder if they're all like that...".

Seriously, grow up, both consoles are excellent and that's the truth, whatever the guy decides to get he'll be more than happy with.

You do realise that being a hardcore fanboy and spreading guff around only puts people OFF buying the thing you want to peddle, right? Nobody's going to look at your post and think "oh right, that's a truly informed opinion and my mind is made up", they're just going to go "oh god he's one of THEM, I wonder if they're all like that...".

Seriously, grow up, both consoles are excellent and that's the truth, whatever the guy decides to get he'll be more than happy with.

what isn't true about what he said though? It's a proven fact that the 360 is the most unreliable console ever made. I mean yeah his post was definitely a fanboyish rant. But in reality what he said is true.

Anyways, this thread has gone completely off topic. How about we get back to the GTA discussion.

If I end up getting the game, which is still undecided, I will buy it for ps3.

what isn't true about what he said though? It's a proven fact that the 360 is the most unreliable console ever made. I mean yeah his post was definitely a fanboyish rant. But in reality what he said is true.

What he failed to mention is that OLDER models of the 360 have the potential RROD problem, but later ones don't (or at least it's nowhere near as bad as before, I've yet to see anyone with a "falcon" report the RROD). So if someone DID go out and get a 360 today, it's likely not going to be an issue for them, so why mention it at all?

And why only mention negative points about the 360 and positive ones about the PS3? Why not be fair and admit that while the 360 had issues with reliability, the PS3 has issues with it's online store, or some games require hard drive installs, or whatever? Why not just be a man and admit that both consoles have their pros and cons and none of them should really be affecting your judgement because you're buying it for the GAMES?

Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

You convinced me, just put my 360 and all the games in the bin. Now I am out to get a PS3!! :rolleyes:

Seriously... get a PS3!

It is a much more versatile and reliable console. Its also the best Blu-ray player currently available by anyone, anywhere.

The Playstation Network is free and its GREAT. Sony have ironed out a lot of problems that plagued the old PSN and making it better by adding Playstation Home, Movie and Music download service, accomplishments etc.

There is a great selection of games and an AWESOME list of titles coming in the next couple of years.

Why risk buying an Xbox 360 only to send it back because of RRoD. They are poorly designed systems and made of cheap parts. Dont let Microsoft's billiions of dollars make you choose their console. The only reason Xbox sells is because Microsoft make people feel like they need it. Once you get it, you regret it.

As for Xbox Live.... big deal. For the price you pay you would expect that sort of service. I cant see any future plan for the Live service. Where is it heading? IPTV? Big deal! They have no future goals for Xbox Live. Its just a place to download stuff.

I used to like the Xbox 360 but the only way Microsoft can kill the PS3 now is by releasing the Xbox 720. The Xbox 360 platform is becoming a stale snail.

You do talk some utter trash, im expecting you have never played on a 360. Most of the stuff you say is just opinion and not hard fact.

PS3 is not more versitile and reliabe. My PS3 failed me on my first day, at the same time my premium RRoD'd once and my Wii CD Drive died and has just died again (furious about not being able to play wii fitness) Yeah 360 may have higher failure rate but this is starting to be less and less common, my Elite is great and has been on for days on end with no RRoD.

Being the Best blu-ray player is debatable, im not complaining because i think its great but others may think a dedicated blu-ray player is better.

Still has lots and lots of problems compared to live, i play call of duty 4 on PS3 and have it for xbox too, the experience is much better on live, far better. Less to no disconnections on live and lower ping rates. The 360 has had movie downloads, achievements, game downloads for ages. So whats sony doing new?

I Would not say there is a great selection of games, not by long shot, the AAA titles are far too expensive on the PS3 with the exception of GT5:P (but thats a demo!) and there is not THAT MANY out there, whereas 360 already has killer titles. Say what you want but with titles like Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey the 360 has a better offering at this point of time. Fair enough MGS4 is coming for PS3 but its not here yet. Who cares about a game thats releasing in future, i CARE about NOW. I have more games for my 360 than my PS3 main reasons are live, pricing of games and DLC, keeping this ontopic GTA4 for the 360 will have DLC so theres another reason why i went for the 360 version as oppose to the PS3 one.

Microsoft does not make people buy the console what are you trippin on? People buy with thier own intuition and pockets, at this point of time its cheaper than PS3 and has a wider library of games so offcourse people will buy it. I was not dissapointed and many others are not, its a shame people like you who have never owned or played on it just make trash up like that.

10 million + people on xbox live disagree with you, and im sure many others who dont have will. Its by far the best online service and will be for years to come. It is getting better and will have more new offerings that IPTV. Its just you dont know about them, they could have anything cooking up there in redmond. If you think xbox live is a place where you can only download stuff then you are mistaken and very uninformed. Making uneducated guesses like that isnt going to get you any brownie points here. Xbox live has demos, arcade games, full game downloads, Old Xbox Classics, Movies and rentals. There is MSN aswell so xbox live users (Gold and Silver) are connected to one of the biggest IM networks out there. The friend list on live is great, has the ability to join games and invite, i was unable to join a game on COD4 on PS3 i had to launch it and then send an invite. Its minor but after seeing how easy it is on live it makes the ps3 look irritating (home may solve this problem but we will see)

I dont believe you have ever like microsoft or the xbox i think you just said that so you dont get branded as a fanboy, your not doing a good job like.

You do talk some utter trash, im expecting you have never played on a 360. Most of the stuff you say is just opinion and not hard fact.

PS3 is not more versitile and reliabe. My PS3 failed me on my first day, at the same time my premium RRoD'd once and my Wii CD Drive died and has just died again (furious about not being able to play wii fitness) Yeah 360 may have higher failure rate but this is starting to be less and less common, my Elite is great and has been on for days on end with no RRoD.

Being the Best blu-ray player is debatable, im not complaining because i think its great but others may think a dedicated blu-ray player is better.

Still has lots and lots of problems compared to live, i play call of duty 4 on PS3 and have it for xbox too, the experience is much better on live, far better. Less to no disconnections on live and lower ping rates. The 360 has had movie downloads, achievements, game downloads for ages. So whats sony doing new?

I Would not say there is a great selection of games, not by long shot, the AAA titles are far too expensive on the PS3 with the exception of GT5:P (but thats a demo!) and there is not THAT MANY out there, whereas 360 already has killer titles. Say what you want but with titles like Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey the 360 has a better offering at this point of time. Fair enough MGS4 is coming for PS3 but its not here yet. Who cares about a game thats releasing in future, i CARE about NOW. I have more games for my 360 than my PS3 main reasons are live, pricing of games and DLC, keeping this ontopic GTA4 for the 360 will have DLC so theres another reason why i went for the 360 version as oppose to the PS3 one.

Microsoft does not make people buy the console what are you trippin on? People buy with thier own intuition and pockets, at this point of time its cheaper than PS3 and has a wider library of games so offcourse people will buy it. I was not dissapointed and many others are not, its a shame people like you who have never owned or played on it just make trash up like that.

10 million + people on xbox live disagree with you, and im sure many others who dont have will. Its by far the best online service and will be for years to come. It is getting better and will have more new offerings that IPTV. Its just you dont know about them, they could have anything cooking up there in redmond. If you think xbox live is a place where you can only download stuff then you are mistaken and very uninformed. Making uneducated guesses like that isnt going to get you any brownie points here. Xbox live has demos, arcade games, full game downloads, Old Xbox Classics, Movies and rentals. There is MSN aswell so xbox live users (Gold and Silver) are connected to one of the biggest IM networks out there. The friend list on live is great, has the ability to join games and invite, i was unable to join a game on COD4 on PS3 i had to launch it and then send an invite. Its minor but after seeing how easy it is on live it makes the ps3 look irritating (home may solve this problem but we will see)

I dont believe you have ever like microsoft or the xbox i think you just said that so you dont get branded as a fanboy, your not doing a good job like.

There can be 10 million on live, but doesn't matter if none of your friends got GTA 4 on Xbox 360. So, as said before, go for the version that most of your friends are getting. That's the only difference I would care about.

My wireless router works fine - Netgear DG834PN

Try updating your router firmware, mine used to drop wireless signals a lot, even from the PC, till I updated.

Hm yeah, netgear is more reliable than Linksys I think. The sad thing is, I DO have the latest firmware. And calling Linksys isn't really going to help because they won't get it replaced and I don't feel like speaking english for 2-3 hours with a dude that doesn't even know how to speak english (hell I'm french-canadian and I speak better than them, there must be something wrong)

But I don't see how the PSN can suck compared to xbox live, that was my main point :p

Ok ok ok, you can speak to the others, I agree it must be cool, but still, you pay for the headphone combined with a mic, and you pay a monthly fee.

What he failed to mention is that OLDER models of the 360 have the potential RROD problem, but later ones don't (or at least it's nowhere near as bad as before, I've yet to see anyone with a "falcon" report the RROD). So if someone DID go out and get a 360 today, it's likely not going to be an issue for them, so why mention it at all?

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http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=7931

http://n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-71365.aspx

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=22609

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173132

^^^The fact that you can find posts like that is completely irrelevant to the point he was making that newer 360's are far more reliable (not to mention that two of those links are the same article).

If people cared about RROD as much as the PS3 camp would have everyone think, there'd be no reason that the 360 should've reached 19 million sold, up 74% from a year ago.

-Spenser

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I do not mind these features, and I genuinely think they are useful, but I would rather have the ability to toggle between screen modes, turn the frontlight on/off, or launch my favorite app. I also agree with people on Reddit asking developers to let users adjust the dial sensitivity. I hope this is something DuRoBo can implement with a software update to make the experience more personalized (it is a Smart Dial, after all) and incentivize users to fiddle with the Dial more often. The Dial is a fantastic idea, so please, guys, improve it a little. As for ergonomics, they are mostly fine, but the dial's position may feel a little awkward and way too high. When I use a phone or a phone-sized gadget, I tend to rest one of its corners on my palm for a more secure grip. With the Krono, such a grip is impossible because you cannot reach the dial even with big hands. You have to lower the reader a bit and hold it like a bottle without any extra support for the bottom edge. Such a grip is not necessarily uncomfortable (the Krono is also light enough for it), but it requires a bit of muscle retraining. Sometimes, I do not bother with the dial and hold the Krono like my phone, flipping through pages with volume buttons, as they are perfectly positioned for my right-hand thumb. Interestingly, when testing the Krono, I would often find myself thinking that a roller embedded in the long plastic cylinder on the back of the device would have been a much more comfortable solution. There is a free idea for you, guys. Software The Krono runs Android 15 with a very minimal launcher on top. The home screen presents you with a list of apps, a scrollable list of widgets, and your user profile. Widgets can display time, calendar, or recent books for quick access. You can also add or remove apps from the home screen to keep the most useful stuff around without tapping "Apps." I like this minimalistic approach; it looks clean, easy to understand, and light. I understand that some may find the list of all apps way too clean, but fortunately, DuRoBo lets you switch to traditional icons. The reader also has a bunch of preinstalled apps: Read: The default app for reading. Browser: A Chromium-based browser. Files: A simple file manager. Music: A simple music player. Spark: A voice recorder with transcription support and AI summarization DuRoBo AI: A built-in AI chatbot. Transfer: An app for file transfer over Wi-Fi. If that is not enough, there is the Google Play Store, where you can download all the extra apps you need, alternative readers, podcast apps, chatbots, and more. DuRoBo is not trying to give you an all-in-one device. The standard software experience is quite minimal, which makes it easy to approach and learn. The standard reader supports EPUB, EPUB3, AZW3, MOBI, PDF, TXT, DOC, and DOCX, which is more than enough to let you read most books without third-party software. As for customizing the reading experience, you can select one of five built-in fonts, adjust size and thickness, adjust margins and spacing (only three variants for each), change text alignment and direction, toggle the reading status bar, and switch to dark mode. There is also text-to-speech, which utilizes Android's default TTS tech. While I like the simplistic approach, I cannot help but feel DuRoBo could have made the built-in reader a bit more customizable. However, I am not going to bog down on this, as you can always install any other reader you prefer using the Play Store or by sideloading an APK. Getting books to the Krono is very simple. Given that the device is an Android smartphone without cellular connectivity, you can transfer files via a USB Type-C cable, download them using the built-in browser, share them over Bluetooth, or use cloud storage. My favorite was the built-in Transfer app. It is simple, reliable, and very well-designed. I was surprised by how well-designed the web portal is. It is fast, pretty, and properly categorized. Well done! Once you have your books loaded, you can highlight or underline text, add annotations, bookmark pages, check the table of contents, and ask AI about the selected text. Unfortunately, the Krono has no built-in vocabulary, but again, that is something a third-party reader could fix. Overall, the built-in reader is light and snappy, with just the minimum amount of features for a regular user to enjoy reading books. The Krono has no built-in reading tracking, so stat nerds will have to look for third-party reading apps. However, you can set a daily reading goal, and the reader will notify you when you reach it (for example, one hour). You can also set a reminder to read at a certain time, and when the time comes, the Krono will light up its back LEDs and unlock itself to nudge you. Other than that, the rear LEDs do nothing, not even showing charging progress, which is an unfortunate misopportunity if you ask me. Quirks aside, Krono's Android runs quite snappily and bug-free. Early reviews of the Krono criticized its Android 13-based software quite a lot, but now, the reader runs Android 15, and its software has fixed plenty of initial complaints. I never experienced any issues with built-in apps. AI attempts The DuRoBo Krono comes with a built-in AI chatbot. There is no information on what model powers this thing, but the system says it was "trained by Google." You can launch the bot from the app list or by double-pressing the dial. It works just like any other chatbot, and you can ask it anything by typing or using voice input. The AI saves your chats, and you can rename, export, or delete them. DuRoBo AI requires an active internet connection, and it does not work offline. Its reach and capabilities are also limited. You can only chat in the app and use it in the reader app as a makeshift vocabulary. However, the implementation is kinda awkward. You can only send a selected portion of text to AI without giving it any requests or instructions. I highlighted the word "dumb," and it apologized to me for not being useful. You also cannot ask follow-up questions or send the generated response to a separate chat. The chatbot is also slow, even with fast Wi-Fi, making the overall experience quite frustrating, which makes me again wish for the ability to remap the double press to something else. Spark, the standard voice recording app, also uses AI for note summarization and transcribing. Neither feature works offline, unfortunately. Spark records notes up to 30 minutes using Krono's dual microphones, and you can rename or export notes. Transcription quality is decent, and the speed is alright, but you can find much better solutions in the Google Play Store. What I like about Spark is that transcribed notes are not locked, and you can always type more to elaborate on your ideas, which is handy. Overall, I like that the Krono is not shoving AI down my throat, but to be honest, there is really not that much to shove. AI features here feel raw and need improvements to be more useful. Battery Life Like most E-Ink readers, the Krono has fantastic battery life. Even with a clock as a screensaver, its standby power consumption is incredibly low. And when in use, you can get weeks of reading on a single charge. Without the front light, my unit never sipped more than one or two percent of battery during a one-hour reading session. It was nice to see plenty of battery-related settings. You can limit charging at 80% to protect battery health long-term, check the number of charging cycles, manufacturing/first-time use date, battery health, and the maximum capacity. Additionally, the Krono lets you select what hardware remains enabled when sleeping. This lets you keep Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on (say, if you want to receive notifications, for some reason) and keep audio playing when locked. Turning these features off effectively eliminates any standby battery drain. I left my Krono sitting for 24 hours with a clock screensaver on, and it did not drop a single percent. The pretty big 3,950 mAh battery justifies the device's thickness and ensures you do not have to charge it for long periods. Speaking of charging, it is capped at only 10W, which is a bit disappointing, as getting such a big battery to 100% takes a notably long time in the era of super-fast charging smartphones. DuRoBo Moodi The Moodi is a standalone, optional accessory for your Krono. It is a wireless remote with two customizable buttons that you can use to flip pages, control media, or scroll webpages. The accessory connects via Bluetooth. Despite having a built-in rechargeable battery, it is extremely light. While the Moodi's shape and form factor is not what I would call particularly ergonomic, it is not uncomfortable to hold and use. The Moodi comes with six removable magnetic buttons with various smiley faces. Buttons sit securely, and they have nice-feeling, albeit a little loud, clicks. It is a cute touch that adds a little more fun and character to the device. There is also an accented power button and a single status LED. The latter displays charging status and connection mode. The Moodi supports three modes: Reading: Buttons work as volume buttons, allowing you to flip pages in the built-in reader or other apps that support page turning with volume buttons. Media: Buttons work as skip forward/backward, which is useful when listening to audiobooks, podcasts, or music. Scroll: The third mode lets you scroll pages in the web browser or any other application The Krono properly detects the Moodi and presents you with an on-screen guide when you connect it for the first time (it also displays the battery level). However, you can only change modes by holding both buttons for a few seconds. It is also worth noting that the Moodi works with other devices. I connected it to my iPhone and it let me adjust volume or control media playback. Sadly, the scroll did not work, so you cannot use it to waste time scrolling TikToks. Overall, the Moodi is a cute little accessory, which I can recommend for those who read a lot. It is very useful for remote page flipping when you do not want to burden your hands by holding the Krono all the time. I only wish DuRoBo included a lanyard for the built-in loop. As for the battery life, after using the Moodi for a few days, I only managed to drop several percent of its 90 mAh battery. Despite the small size, it is rated for weeks of use, which is pretty impressive. At $35.99, I cannot say the Moodi is a must-have accessory, but I see the appeal. I prefer using the Krono with its Smart Dial, as I rarely read for more than 40-60 minutes in one sitting. However, if you have a stand and like reading for long periods, the Moodi is the right thing to have. It is a bit more expensive than regular page flippers on Amazon, but it is on par with similar products from Kobo or BOOX. Plus, it has a little more fun to it with removable buttons and better integration into the Krono. Conclusion At the end of the day, DuRoBo Krono is a nice pocket-sized e-reader. Its software focuses on the main things without trying to be everything at once. The smart dial idea is unique and great, and I wish more manufacturers had something similar in their devices. The display is also good, with an even frontlight and "always-on" support. I did not notice any deal-breaking issues with the Krono. However, you can feel that the idea needs some improvements, such as a slightly stiffer dial in a more ergonomic location, perhaps a little more premium materials, and better software customization. I hope the company won't give up on the idea and improve the dial and ergonomics in the second generation. Buy DuRoBo Krono Black - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Krono White - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Moodi - $35.99 on Amazon As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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