Mozilla Firefox 3.0 RC1

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That's because of all the changes they've made to the code. You will need to use a different bit of code to hide the favicons for sites. I can't tell you unfortunately, as I don't know exactly what it is, but just thought I'd let you know there is some code out there somewhere which will do it :p

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Installed it last night and first thing I've noticed is that I can't seem to disable Site Icons / Bookmark Icons using browser.chrome.site_icons and browser.chrome.favicons. Any one else?

"Go into your profile and delete the file places.sqlite. Restart FF, the file will be recreated and the favicons will be gone. "

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r203...remove-favicons

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I echo the comments about Firefox 3 being a nice release.

I was about to pop into about:config to turn on that boolean value to stop Firefox from checking extension compatibility... and ROFL at the warning :laugh:

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how long does each RC usually last for before they release the next one/go final?

I don't know for sure, but there will be an RC2, as some "showstopper" bugs have been found in RC1. The idea, though, is that if RC2 doesn't produce any major bugs, it will be branded the final release. Mozilla is slating the final release for next month, so each RC will last maybe a couple weeks or so?

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"Go into your profile and delete the file places.sqlite. Restart FF, the file will be recreated and the favicons will be gone. "

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r203...remove-favicons

That just deletes all my Bookmarks forcing me to import them again from a backup :/

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That just deletes all my Bookmarks forcing me to import them again from a backup :/

The way I deleted them was to download SQLite Manager extension from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5817 and then go into Tools > SQLite Manager, then Database > Connect, open up places.sqlite. Under tables, theres a table called moz_favicons. Go into this one, and on the Browse & Search tab delete any records that are present. That will remove the favicons stored.

Hopefully they fix the bug in a future version since it's a rather long process to go to just to delete them...

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Hopefully they fix the bug in a future version since it's a rather long process to go to just to delete them...

Looks like it's a confirmed bug with Places: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331228. Seems quite a trivial bug so hopefully they'll get it fixed before final.

I was able to get around it by exporting my bookmarks to a HTML file and editing the exported HTML to remove the ICON attributes from the individual bookmarks before importing the file back into FireFox.

Now all I need is an updated RefSpoof. It works with Nightly Tester Tools but for some reason it adds some invalid character place-holders (diamond with question mark) above the menu bar in FireFox when installed, which looks unsightly. I've scanned through the code to try and work out why but I can't see anything that might be causing it and the developer seems to have abandoned the project so I don't know if it'll get fixed.

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I wonder if there's the other default themes (or themes looking like them) for download, ie. Firelight and Tango looking themes for Windows?

when Opera starts rendering pages properly, I might consider using it for more than 5 minutes :D

Judging from all those web standards test out there (and I'm not talking about Acid3), Opera renders pages much more properly than Firefox.

Or if you think rendering pages in non-standard quirky ways is "properly", then IE owns Firefox in rendering pages "properly". Firefox can't even do ActiveX!!! :D /sarcasm

Does Opera have Adblock (an adblocker as good as Adblock in fact) ? no.

Enough said.

You are wrong here, Opera has a very customizable content filtering mechanism built-in, you can edit Opera config manually to make its content filtering as good as you wish. Opera is very customizable by itself, just that you need to go deeper than the GUI at surface. I do agree that's a disadvantage for new-comers.

It's on topic because it's a feature firefox is able to utilise properly as opposed to only half of what other browsers can do even with addons installed. This makes Firefox the safer browser as well because of the subscribed adblock lists available to block out risky ads and also a cleaner browsing experience.

I'm sick of people talking about the "safety" of browsers like it's some security software. They are not. Opera/Firefox/Safari won't be much safer than IE if you don't have proper AV/Firewall installed. And they won't be much safer when you have proper AV/Firewall installed.

If you really want to talk about "safety" of browsers, then an adblocker definitely has little to do with "safety", since they can't fix the browser vulnerabilities. So far Opera is "safer" than Firefox in all those security reports out there, albeit like I said, that's mostly insignificant and irrelevant when compared to having proper real security apps like AV/Firewall software. Not to mention the add-ons can get infected themselves as shown by a recent event.

To think having a different browser can save you from all those virus and trojans out there is just too naive.

On another hand despite Opera is my personal favorite browser, I do think the RC1 quite a solid release for Firefox, albeit the way they moved the "default browser" setting from a clear prompt to a corner of the "Setup Type" installation step shortly after they accused Apple for being too pushy for Safari is... a bit hypocritical at least.

And if the "Awesome Bar" can have in-page history keyword search like the newer Opera 9.5 builds.

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Judging from all those web standards test out there (and I'm not talking about Acid3), Opera renders pages much more properly than Firefox.
Opera does better with current standards, but Firefox is leading in future recommendations (which nobody really use yet). But I've seen basic basic rendering bugs from both of them, so I wouldn't claim any of these two to be definitely superior because they're so close together on average. Especially with Gecko 1.9, it's too early to get a good estimate of its quality just yet.
I'm sick of people talking about the "safety" of browsers like it's some security software. They are not. Opera/Firefox/Safari won't be much safer than IE if you don't have proper AV/Firewall installed. And they won't be much safer when you have proper AV/Firewall installed.

If you really want to talk about "safety" of browsers, then an adblocker definitely has little to do with "safety", since they can't fix the browser vulnerabilities. So far Opera is "safer" than Firefox in all those security reports out there, albeit like I said, that's mostly insignificant and irrelevant when compared to having proper real security apps like AV/Firewall software. Not to mention the add-ons can get infected themselves as shown by a recent event.

To think having a different browser can save you from all those virus and trojans out there is just too naive.

I pretty much agree but there's just one reservation: I have yet to see NoScript's functionalities duplicated on any of the other browsers, and the convenience it brings makes it feasible to disable scripting by default, and that prevents almost all web-based malicious code from running. It could be that I just haven't looked hard enough, and if that's the case I'd appreciate a link :)
On another hand despite Opera is my personal favorite browser, I do think the RC1 quite a solid release for Firefox, albeit the way they moved the "default browser" setting from a clear prompt to a corner of the "Setup Type" installation step shortly after they accused Apple for being too pushy for Safari is... a bit hypocritical at least.

And if the "Awesome Bar" can have in-page history keyword search like the newer Opera 9.5 builds.

There's a huge difference between using an update function to push brand new software and having a clearly visible checkbox for making default in an user-initiated installation. And it's not like it was presented in a deceptive manner either.

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I echo the comments about Firefox 3 being a nice release.

I was about to pop into about:config to turn on that boolean value to stop Firefox from checking extension compatibility... and ROFL at the warning :laugh:

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No idea if this is an extension I've got or what.

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Judging from all those web standards test out there (and I'm not talking about Acid3), Opera renders pages much more properly than Firefox.

Or if you think rendering pages in non-standard quirky ways is "properly", then IE owns Firefox in rendering pages "properly". Firefox can't even do ActiveX!!! :D /sarcasm

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Opera adds scrollbars where it shouldn't and messes up sizing with things. Firefox misrenders positioned generated content.

All browsers have bugs, what matters is how they treat those bugs (i.e. do the bugs become features like IE, or do they get fixed like Firefox, Opera, Safari, etc.)

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There's only one extension that I'm missing, and that's the must have FLST. Focus Last Selected Tab. There doesn't appear to be a newer version that works with RC1 and it won't even allow you to install it, so you can't use the Nightly Tools to force it to work. So does anyone know of a similar extension that works with RC1? Old extension-https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/32 Nevermind, I found what I was looking for. Apparently there is a newer version that works with 3.0-http://gorgias.de/mfe/#flst

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There's only one extension that I'm missing, and that's the must have FLST. Focus Last Selected Tab. There doesn't appear to be a newer version that works with RC1 and it won't even allow you to install it, so you can't use the Nightly Tools to force it to work. So does anyone know of a similar extension that works with RC1? Old extension-https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/32 Nevermind, I found what I was looking for. Apparently there is a newer version that works with 3.0-http://gorgias.de/mfe/#flst

Tab Mix Plus does that and much more.

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firefox 3.0rc1 is totally awesome

still some crashes with binary plugins like my logmein and the occasional java site/app

its specific external plugins that are causing crashes for me otherwise its totally solid, fast, awesome

the killer robot is almost ready!

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