Kronir Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 No. Windows 7 won't suck.and No. You won't need a touch screen to use Windows 7. :pacifier: Exactly what I was going to say. :D I can't wait for Windows 7. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590239394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 i don't think 7 will suck but i still think it is too soon for it. they should of just perfected vista with sp2 first, let it mature more. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590239408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hynesy Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Thats not really an option for MS, they are still losing market share with Vista SP1 and can't be sure to turn that around with SP2, to them, its a major risk to gamble. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590240698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: Lyon :: Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Snipping Tool - A cool intuitive app included with Win7 that lets you easily take screenshots (lets you select which portion of the screen you want to take a screenshot of). It's included in Vista too but yeah, love that tool, especially for blogging Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590240932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
svnO.o Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 It's included in Vista too but yeah, love that tool, especially for blogging Oh I didn't even notice that. It showed up in the start menu in Windows 7 so tried it out but never noticed it in Vista or just never took the time to check it out. Ya learn something new everyday! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590241172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yeah I mean why not give Mozilla some flak for charging us an inane amount of money for a browser only for it to be a bloated resource hog....oh wait Hogging resources and utilizing resources are two different things, but being a user of XP, you wouldn't know this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590241194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateB1 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I think Microsoft's changing the way they display free RAM in Windows 7 - in Vista, cached RAM was shown as being used - in Windows 7, it isn't. On my 2 Gb RAM laptop, it shows 1.2 Gb cached in the text below the graph, but on the graph, it shows it is using 512 Mb or so being used. In other words, using almost the same amount of RAM as Vista, but displaying it differently. Sneaky. :shifty: I like the change - I now won't have to keep repeating myself on forums saying that Windows is not a memory hog. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590243230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted December 8, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2008 I think Vista was a huge let down but I don't think they'll make the same mistake with Windows 7 - I think it's going to be pretty good :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590243246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 With all the fixes and improvements being done to Windows 7, can we call Vista the M.E. of today? It's not near as buggy as M.E. was, but its failure rate at getting it out there sure is. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590250962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 What failure rate at getting out there. It's not selling as much as they hoped, but it's outselling ay other OS before it in the same timeframe from release, and I don't see many customers asking if they can get computers without vista anymore, those that do are easily turned when you give them the actual facts instead of the misinformation they have. Vista is selling just fine and healthily. So no, Vista is nowehre near an ME of today, not even close. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590250990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Oh I didn't even notice that. It showed up in the start menu in Windows 7 so tried it out but never noticed it in Vista or just never took the time to check it out. Ya learn something new everyday! The constant attacks on Vista are largely due to the FUD Factor that largely was*not* present when Windows XP launched (also, Code RED, one of the nastiest of Internet worm attacks up to that time, was still making the rounds, and Windows XP was the *only* non-Linux/UNIX operating system that was immune out of the box). As opposed to Code RED and its immediate progeny, which was a major XP sales driver, there has been no corresponding driver for Vista (instead, there has been lots of FUD and just plain bad intelligence-gathering regarding Vista performance, even on older hardware). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590262776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrambo Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Here is what is going to happen. XP users will stay with XP still. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590264818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rejinderi Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 as far as i know windows 7 is a big improvement over vista Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590264832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulltrail-old Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Touch screen computers are great for simplistic multimedia tasks, but I don't find it as a total success, specifically in the PC gaming industry, unless of course you connect a keyboard and mouse. <_< Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590264840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 With all the fixes and improvements being done to Windows 7, can we call Vista the M.E. of today? It's not near as buggy as M.E. was, but its failure rate at getting it out there sure is. No comparing vista to ME is epic fail. It didn't do nearly as poorly as ME and it is perfectly stable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590264844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Nice job circumventing the site's profanity filters. And this kind of comment makes you no better than he is. Quoting the offending text makes you an accessory to the crime. lol Anyway, Vista is sweet running on 4 of my machines. 7 will be even better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590264932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytomorow Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Hogging resources and utilizing resources are two different things, but being a user of XP, you wouldn't know this. I use several operating systems, including Vista, but you wouldn't know that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590264936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Windows 7 build 6956 performance test Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590266110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Nope. Vista is already awesome, so if they improve on it, it will be an amazing OS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590266120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytomorow Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Nope. Vista is already awesome, so if they improve on it, it will be an amazing OS. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590267494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Afghan Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I just saw the demo video and I'm really starting to hate Windows 7 (codenamed Vista with touch or Vistouch). I hate the fact that I will have to go out and buy a touch screen and I can only imagine the monster of a computer it would take to run it. Why doesn't Microsoft take it one small innovation at a time and try not to make operating systems with the same requirements as a Crysis, Far Cry 2, and Gears of War Hell spawn. Disclaimer: I'm a Mac zealot but I do hate misinformation and deliberate lying. 1) No where in any of the documentation is it stated that a touch screen is a minimum requirement. 2) So far all evidence shows that memory usage has dropped considerably - DWM.exe for example has gone from 70MB to 12MB, memory usage over all has gone from around 700MB to 461MB; I"m sure there is more optimisation on its way. 3) How can you make 'small changes' one at a time; how on earth do you do a bit by bit migration of GDI/GDI+ to the new WDDM? Before making conclusions like that - know what you're talking about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590267514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinN206 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Disclaimer: I'm a Mac zealot but I do hate misinformation and deliberate lying.1) No where in any of the documentation is it stated that a touch screen is a minimum requirement. 2) So far all evidence shows that memory usage has dropped considerably - DWM.exe for example has gone from 70MB to 12MB, memory usage over all has gone from around 700MB to 461MB; I"m sure there is more optimisation on its way. 3) How can you make 'small changes' one at a time; how on earth do you do a bit by bit migration of GDI/GDI+ to the new WDDM? Before making conclusions like that - know what you're talking about. Yup, he judged the book by its cover. In this case, a demo video, and he is already convinced and damned it as opposed to using it like most of us do. I think he just wants some attention. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590267536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azz0r_wugg Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Ive been using Windows 7 fulltime for the past few weeks and its anything but suck. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590267544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rullingen Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Yeah, having used the Beta version of Windows 7 I'm pretty damn impressed. Will most certainly be changing when it comes out and I didn't even bother with Vista. They seem to have sorted all the haggly nasty bits out of vista and made it run smoother in the process, M$ may have actually struck home with this one. Having said that does anyone remember that certain early build of Vista that everyone liked but got dropped? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590268068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cuban Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 its obvious you don't understand anything from thoose sayings. duh, ofcourse they wont remember that most of people who use computers actually need to type things in them, like Work/Book's, programmers, everyone.yeah. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/640343-anyone-else-think-windows-7-is-going-to-suck/page/8/#findComment-590268078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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