Many PS3 owners complain of Firmware 2.40 freezes

[Ricardo Gil]

The PSP and DS are at bigger risks than the consoles.

Both of them can be pirated on with NO downsides.

The PS2 even, had no downsides either.

The 360 has the risk of you getting banned, and unless the PS3 when hacked runs on 1:1 BR's, the risk for it will probably be even higher. Not to mention the costs being high right now with a BR burner, and BR discs.

Yes, you could be banned, but there's always an option. Believe it or not, a friend of mine has 2 360s: a regular premium and a hacked core. Expensive, but effective.

I don't see the PS3 running disc based backups anytime soon for the reason you mentioned: BluRay discs are just too expensive. If it gets hacked, they'll probably run from the hard drive.

I guess piracy is just as certain as death and taxes, it'll never go away. It just gets harder.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Yes, you could be banned, but there's always an option. Believe it or not, a friend of mine has 2 360s: a regular premium and a hacked core. Expensive, but effective.

I don't see the PS3 running disc based backups anytime soon for the reason you mentioned: BluRay discs are just too expensive. If it gets hacked, they'll probably run from the hard drive.

I guess piracy is just as certain as death and taxes, it'll never go away. It just gets harder.

Yeah well, 2 of the same console is expensive.

You've also lost your warranty when you mod.

The dev firmware can run PS3 content from the hard drive, but to me putting dev firmware on a retail unit would be an easy give-away to getting banned.

I genuinely think we won't see widespread PS3 piracy till the BR drive can be modded and BR discs used as backups. That's just the "safest" way for pirates to do things.

[Blackice]

The PSP and DS are at bigger risks than the consoles.

Both of them can be pirated on with NO downsides.

The PS2 even, had no downsides either.

The 360 has the risk of you getting banned, and unless the PS3 when hacked runs on 1:1 BR's, the risk for it will probably be even higher. Not to mention the costs being high right now with a BR burner, and BR discs.

The thing about Blu-Ray's lower read speed is that it may allow for streaming disc content through a networked computer. Allowing for almost unlimited fixed storage.

This is a TEST firmware, meaning that it is an official Sony firmware, and cannot be banned. These hackers are clever - I'm sure they'll find a way to fool the PSN. Sony don't invest as much in their R&D department for in-house cryptography algorithms as Microsoft do (they have more uses for it - from ensuring Windows system file integrity to data encryption for server systems. Sony only really have games). I'd expect Sony's system to not necessarily be less original (as more money =/= more innovation), but not have the same safeguards that Microsoft's does. Sony's R&D team don't have campuses around leading universities, for instance, plucking the best, freshest minds in the cryptography field.

The PSP has been entirely hacked - new firmwares are patched within days, and can be downloaded conveniently from a built-in update feature. Pirates can play copied games online, share downloaded PSN content, and create their own executables from PSOne ISO images. The PS3's OS, whilst looking similar to the PSP, is structurally very different. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the network infrastructures are very similar - leading to people being able to use pirated games as originals. Even the PS2's DNAS system was cracked an allowed people to play online.

Although I won't pirate games, I'll probably back them up to my computer if the option is available. It's more convenient, safer, and will hopefully allow me to rip some of my already purchased content (i.e. PSOne and PS2 games) to the PS3's HDD. And it'll probably add more features that Sony won't - such as additional codec support, more customisation options, and better integration with networked devices (i.e. PCs and PSPs).

[Unto Darkness]

Man, someone has got to tell Sony that they can't make software... From SonicStage to PS3 Firmware, pure disaster....

[Blackice]

Oh, Audioboxer, I should again mention something I've mentioned before on this thread - there are no trophy sounds.

Now, this is a pretty insignificant feature. But it's absence, when Eric Lempel said it had been added late to the firmware, indicates that the version that was released wasn't the final version - it wasn't the one Sony wanted to release.

Here's the snippet:

Currently, no. How quickly things can change - there *will* be a sound effect when you unlock a Trophy.

This means that it was a late addition. It's not there in the released version. Therefore the released version was created before they were finished with the firmware.

Also missing (I think), is the ability to access the sound output settings. I tried it with SSHD, and it didn't work. Maybe something else was meant by claiming it was supported, but in any case, the missing trophy sounds are some proper evidence.

[Jimmy0]

I could of sworn I heard a little sound when I unlocked the trophy's in SSHD .. maybe I was imagining things!

And I won't be able to check again until I can complete that damned last trophy, but that could take a while. :laugh:

[sn00pie]

PS3 TEST Downgrade PUP's in the Wild!

Did a door just open for hackers?

http://www.ps3news.com/PS3Dev/happy-4th-of...ps-in-the-wild/

sounds very promising :yes:

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Man, someone has got to tell Sony that they can't make software... From SonicStage to PS3 Firmware, pure disaster....

That's a little harsh.

Sonys day 1 firmware was nowhere near as featured as todays.

They have changed a lot around on the software front, and this was a huge patch/change to the system in place "on-the-fly" if you will.

So no, problems aren't good, but "can't make software" ? A little harsh if you ask me.

I've had my PS3 since firmware 1.9 I think? (August 2007, whatever was kicking about then) And I've seen many improvements since.

Yes yes, things that should of been there from the start, but I start to build up confidence, hope and pleasure when I see them coming.

Live from what I know went through what we could call a "beta" phase as well, and I have no problems in addressing early PS3 owners and saying "You/us guys have effectively been beta testing the PS3 OS".

We have! No doubts about that. The people to benefit most are the 80% of owners still to come that will buy a PS3 when everything is far more solid than it is now (be realistic, the PS3 is at what, 14m sold? It's going to sell a lot more).

However we should be happy as well everything is coming, we've just had to slug away through some grim times those people won't have to. That's the pleasure of being an early adopter :p

The thing about Blu-Ray's lower read speed is that it may allow for streaming disc content through a networked computer. Allowing for almost unlimited fixed storage.

This is a TEST firmware, meaning that it is an official Sony firmware, and cannot be banned. These hackers are clever - I'm sure they'll find a way to fool the PSN. Sony don't invest as much in their R&D department for in-house cryptography algorithms as Microsoft do (they have more uses for it - from ensuring Windows system file integrity to data encryption for server systems. Sony only really have games). I'd expect Sony's system to not necessarily be less original (as more money =/= more innovation), but not have the same safeguards that Microsoft's does. Sony's R&D team don't have campuses around leading universities, for instance, plucking the best, freshest minds in the cryptography field.

The PSP has been entirely hacked - new firmwares are patched within days, and can be downloaded conveniently from a built-in update feature. Pirates can play copied games online, share downloaded PSN content, and create their own executables from PSOne ISO images. The PS3's OS, whilst looking similar to the PSP, is structurally very different. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the network infrastructures are very similar - leading to people being able to use pirated games as originals. Even the PS2's DNAS system was cracked an allowed people to play online.

Although I won't pirate games, I'll probably back them up to my computer if the option is available. It's more convenient, safer, and will hopefully allow me to rip some of my already purchased content (i.e. PSOne and PS2 games) to the PS3's HDD. And it'll probably add more features that Sony won't - such as additional codec support, more customisation options, and better integration with networked devices (i.e. PCs and PSPs).

I'm no hacker, I have no knowledge of hacking so I only make assumptions.

With my limited views and knowledge I would think, emulating PSP like piracy with custom firmware on the PS3 will be a much harder feat. One with a much larger risk.

I'm not really discussing the know and how of IF it can be done, and how talented these hackers are, but more the risk that us end users, 95% of us with no knowledge on how it all works, faces with our $400-$500 investment.

[popisdead uk]

Oh, Audioboxer, I should again mention something I've mentioned before on this thread - there are no trophy sounds.

There are sounds.

[Dc'1]

Woo, I finally managed to get 2.40, kinda dodgy way though... Downloaded the firmware from another site, not sure if I can post the link though since your not meant to update with firmwares downloaded from anywhere else, but it worked perfectly and was worth the 2 minutes of fear lol. It's not as slow as I expected... Everyone was saying how slow it was, but it's not that bad, sure it's not as fast as without a game running but a computer would be the same way.

A thing I don't like too much, would be when you press X on a friend, normally that would just bring up the messages, but now it brings up their trophies, would be better if they just made the trophies accessed from the Triangle menu and messages to X like before.

Nothing major, but it's just different lol.

Still not tried in-game music. Don't know any games that support it lol.

Still waiting on SSHD to redownload so I can try trophies...

So far, worth it.

[strotee]

Man, someone has got to tell Sony that they can't make software... From SonicStage to PS3 Firmware, pure disaster....

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. *ahem* MS & hardware.

[morficus]

well, if anybody doesn't have FW 2.40 but still wants to take there chances at installing it... they can PM me for a link.

I downloaded it the day it was released and I still have it on my web server.

on another note. any news on when it will be re-released, or patched? I'm away from home until Sunday... so I'm a bit out of touch compared to normal :p

[Blackice]

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. *ahem* MS & hardware.

I'm certainly no MS fanboy, but I have to admit that Microsoft generally do make very good hardware. The 360's RRoD problems are more a small blemish on an otherwise excellent hardware record.

[FiB3R]

The 360's RRoD problems are more a small blemish on an otherwise excellent hardware record.

More like a huge skid mark

[soniqstylz]

Mine is working just fine. No slow down's, no crashing etc.

+1

[GEIST]

I haven't encountered any problems with 2.40 either, but right now I'm only playing MGS4, so I have no clue if I'm 100% safe. :p

[popisdead uk]

More like a huge skid mark

:laugh: So true, but at least they have finally managed to bring the failure rate down.

[Hupp]

works for me, im just upset that custom sound tracks have to be enabled by the game... lame

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

works for me, im just upset that custom sound tracks have to be enabled by the game... lame

You can thank MS' patent for that.

[Rahul]

More like a huge skid mark

Id second that , i have a 360 & the hardware quality is 100% crap. damn thing already gave out on me twice last year & due to non availability of warranty in India during those days i had to shell out 200$ to get it fixed.

I should have got a PS3

[Starchild]

Any news on when Sony is planning on re-releasing 2.4x? Some of my less informed friends, who missed the update, are dying to find out.

Just if you are wondering, I have had no problems with 2.40.

[Flash]

Mine froze on me today when I tried to connect a bluetooth keyboard using in-game xmb.

[popisdead uk]

There are rumours of 2.41 being released this week.

[Guest]

Is the 2.40 update region specific? Or will I be able to update my PAL system using the update downloaded from US servers?

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

Is the 2.40 update region specific? Or will I be able to update my PAL system using the update downloaded from US servers?

Not sure about your question in regards to it being region specific, but I can tell you it is not on the US servers right now. I missed out on the initial release so I did not get to install it so I am waiting for 2.41 to be released, since there is no update right now.