official Team Fortress 2

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That's the problem, though. Why should I have to deal with lower quality graphics? That's why I got out of PC gaming. I loved Valve games, but I couldn't afford to keep up with the hardware and I couldn't stand to deal with sub-par graphics.

Well, that's PC gaming.

You need to upgrade every few years or be prepared to lower graphical settings in new games!

I've owned my 7600GT now for about 3 or 4 years? Still plays most modern stuff okay with reduced settings.

[mistervista]

So you suggest spending a few hundred bucks to play one game? Yeah, no. I'm good, thanks.

Honestly, TF2 is one of the rare games that I would pay a few hundred bucks to play. It's that good.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Honestly, TF2 is one of the rare games that I would pay a few hundred bucks to play. It's that good.

You wouldn't even need to spend that.

My 7600GT plays it at 1440x900 on medium-high settings fine.

Whack in an 8600GT and you'll probably get that up in resolution (my native res is 1900x1200).

A 8600GT in the UK is only going to set you back like ?30-45.

The rest of my rig is fairly beefy though, E6600 @ 3.4GHz and 4GB of ram. Ram is dirt cheap nowadays though.

[Doli]

ATI X1300 and it plays fine on med settings on 1280 x 800. I'm going to move up to one of ATI's 4xxx line or (3xxx) soon.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Well, that's PC gaming.

You need to upgrade every few years or be prepared to lower graphical settings in new games!

I've owned my 7600GT now for about 3 or 4 years? Still plays most modern stuff okay with reduced settings.

That's just gaming, things evolve, you have to keep upgrading consoles (by buying new ones) and computers to play newer games.

buying computers/consoles = the price of having fun with these games

Edit: I got my 8600GT last year (I think) for around $100, it gets around 20 FPS in GTA4, the CPU is around 2-3 years old, you don't have to upgrade every month.

[Blackhearted]

That's the problem, though. Why should I have to deal with lower quality graphics? That's why I got out of PC gaming. I loved Valve games, but I couldn't afford to keep up with the hardware and I couldn't stand to deal with sub-par graphics.

You do realize you don't need to buy top of the line, high end hardware to keep up and play games decently with decent looks, right? That's the line of thinking i get from your posts, that you need to spend more than all 3 game consoles combined, and it's rather foolish thinking.

[+shift. MVC]

What bangbang is saying is that if he's going to spend money and get less than max graphics settings then he might as well not spend any money.

[Mike]

That's just gaming, things evolve, you have to keep upgrading consoles (by buying new ones) and computers to play newer games.

buying computers/consoles = the price of having fun with these games

Edit: I got my 8600GT last year (I think) for around $100, it gets around 20 FPS in GTA4, the CPU is around 2-3 years old, you don't have to upgrade every month.

thing is, consoles last a hell of a lot longer than PCs.

The amount spent on my current PC (2-3 years old) is greater than what i spent on getting a PS2 on release day and a PS3 12 months ago. So for 7 or 8 years console gaming i've spent less on hardware than a PC that has lasted me 2 or 3 years.

[+shift. MVC]

Speaking of which looks like the Steam server is acting up for me at least.

[ViZioN]

Speaking of which looks like the Steam server is acting up for me at least.

Steam Friends is down for me right now but everything else seems to be working.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

thing is, consoles last a hell of a lot longer than PCs.

The amount spent on my current PC (2-3 years old) is greater than what i spent on getting a PS2 on release day and a PS3 12 months ago. So for 7 or 8 years console gaming i've spent less on hardware than a PC that has lasted me 2 or 3 years.

The amount I've spent on my computer in the last 2 years is leas than half the cost of a PS3.

If we're talking about age, well I've still got a working Atari and C64.

[Mike]

The amount I've spent on my computer in the last 2 years is leas than half the cost of a PS3.

If we're talking about age, well I've still got a working Atari and C64.

And over the past 2 years i've spent about a third of the cost of a PS3, doesn't remove the fact my PC cost a lot more than a PS3 and I still had to buy it. A similar costing console and PC will have the console outlasting the PC easily

[sundayx Veteran]

Is the scout update coming soon?

[ViZioN]

Is the scout update coming soon?

I wouldn't bet on it :p

[mistervista]

The Scout is one class I cannot get into.

[Andre S. Veteran]

And over the past 2 years i've spent about a third of the cost of a PS3, doesn't remove the fact my PC cost a lot more than a PS3 and I still had to buy it. A similar costing console and PC will have the console outlasting the PC easily

The way the console "outlasts" the PC is by running the same games at lower settings, you can do this on PC too. Look at Doom 3 on Xbox; that game made the most recent PCs choke, yet it ran decently on the Xbox, 2 years old hardware. They did it by lowering the texture sizes, resolution and shaders; but if you had a 2-year old PC you could achieve exactly by the same by altering the game settings.

The price of a console is about the same as the price difference between a "regular" and a "gaming" desktop, so it boils down to whether you like the well integrated, supposedly hassle-free environment of the console, or the flexibility of the PC.

[Minimoose]

To change the subject, anyone playing in ETF2L soon? Might get to play against someone from Neowin...

http://etf2l.org/forum/movie/?recent=13286

[Minimoose]

On a side note, one of my friends did this, which I found quite funny...

[Scirwode]

^ :rofl:

Scirwode

[Denis W. Veteran]

On a side note, one of my friends did this, which I found quite funny...

:laugh: !!

OK, guess this thread could use a dumping of some screenshots, at least until news of the next updates comes in. Here they are, some of my screenshots since September 17th. 56K semi-warning.

Mmmmphhh... oh yeah.

Victim's name matches up to the scout's facial expression.

Punish AFKers with a hadouken.

Politics Fortress 2? -_-

Lumberyard's "victory pit" is slightly bugged. Slide down close to the edge and you won't die. But edge in a bit, and UUUNNHHH.

Flying pyro.

How to win sudden death. Huddle up in the intel room.

Party mode = random stuff flying out of dead people.

OK, this might work, someone might fall for it...

Dead standing roasted corpses.

Owned. (:p)

(reverse) Pyro 69.

Mmmmphhh..... baooouu!

Oh sh-

edit: What the hell, a Youtube video as well. Best ten seconds of your day :rofl:

Edited December 25, 2008 by rm20010

[Srugie Veteran]

Like the pics!

[Mastodont]

Are you having that "hl2.exe has stopped working" after you quit game?

[Denis W. Veteran]

Are you having that "hl2.exe has stopped working" after you quit game?

That problem has been fixed quite a while ago.

There's another bug that really pees me off each time I launch TF2 on a clean install: the Windows Firewall dialog pops up about adding a firewall exception. If I click on it, I lose focus to the TF2 window. I attempt to switch back to TF2, but it gets stuck in a loop between switching from its window to the desktop and back.

[Mastodont]

And whats the solution? I'm getting this all the time :(

[Denis W. Veteran]

I don't know. :/ The problem just went away after a couple of Steam client updates and TF2 updates.