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[ViZioN]

2 more golden wrenches until next update info!

It needs to hurry up. I want to go to bed :p

[Dane]

wait is this update out? what are the achievements needed to get the new stuff

[Mathachew Veteran]

wait is this update out? what are the achievements needed to get the new stuff

It's not out yet, but there is an achievement list here. The descriptions will either go up tonight or tomorrow.

One more golden wrench....

I had some vain hope that because my handle has been Amazing Wrench for several years I would somehow work my way into getting one. Alas, I have not... yet!

[Dane]

It's not out yet, but there is an achievement list here. The descriptions will either go up tonight or tomorrow.

ahh ok thanks!

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

I just crafted everything I had in the hopes of getting the Golden Wrench. Yes, even my hat. Now I have nothing but a crappy towering hat and some miscellaneous items. :cry:

[Denis W. Veteran]

I just crafted everything I had in the hopes of getting the Golden Wrench. Yes, even my hat. Now I have nothing but a crappy towering hat and some miscellaneous items. :cry:

Towering pillar of hats is awesome, how could you not like people running around with the hat equivalent of the Leaning Tower of Pisa on their heads? :rofl:

[EmuZombie Veteran]

For those following the Drunken F00l "scandal" here is a chat log answering many questions...

23:14? @Drunken_F00l: my statement is:

23:14? @Drunken_F00l: also I'm not that stressed out about it

23:14? @Drunken_F00l: if Valve wants to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ yet again

23:14? @Drunken_F00l: then let them

23:14? @Drunken_F00l: whatever.

23:14? Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: tell us, did you do anything wrong? i mean like more than analyzing the drop times?

23:14? @Drunken_F00l: there was a leak

23:14? @Drunken_F00l: the drop times were leaked

23:15? RabidZombie: I guess by a Valve employee

23:15? @Drunken_F00l: yes

23:15? @Drunken_F00l: valve apparently thinks the leak is my problem

23:15? Nwks: wow, so much for "random chance"

23:15? @Drunken_F00l: yes

23:15? @Drunken_F00l: the random chance is all BS

23:15? @Drunken_F00l: the times were predetermined

23:16? jorgenson: hey DF if you had kept the times to yourself... you prob would not be banned

23:16? @Drunken_F00l: jorgenson: I wasn't the source, I had no control over that

23:16? Dragonshadow: Drunken_F00l: so they haven't said anything to you yet?

23:17? @Drunken_F00l: Dragonshadow: I called Robin. We talked about it.

23:18? Cyborgmatt: @Drunken_F00l: Dragonshadow: I called Robin. We talked about it.

23:18? Cyborgmatt: does that mean you agreed to the ban?

23:18? Cyborgmatt: or was it unexpected

23:18? @Drunken_F00l: I called him after I saw the ban

23:18? @Drunken_F00l: he wanted to talk earlier but I said I couldn't because I was busy at work

23:20? SonicXVe: are you involved in the other two people getting banned?

23:20? @Drunken_F00l: SonicXVe: no

23:21? Subaru: Drunken_F00l, did your api key get removed too, or is the website just being slow

23:21? @Drunken_F00l: Subaru: I don't know anything about that. My guess is it's being slow.

23:23? Kigabit: Drunken F00l, I assume they changed all the predetermined times after they found out they were leaked?

23:23? @Drunken_F00l: Kigabit: Yes, absolutely.

23:23? DSpawn: DF, so was it actually true that you got it by chance, or did you know almost for certain you where going to get it

23:23? @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: I knew for certain when it dropped

23:23? Kigabit: Did you have to craft on the exact second it was supposed to drop?

23:24? @Drunken_F00l: Kigabit: The craft had to reach the crafting server at the exact second. First craft after the time was reached got the wrench.

23:24? ohyes: Did you actually know the exact times, DF?

23:24? @Drunken_F00l: yes

23:25? @Drunken_F00l: all of them

23:25? BatterieS: do you know the next time?

23:25? @Drunken_F00l: the times were changed

23:25? baronbeetle: so the times were down to the second, not minute?

23:25? @Drunken_F00l: baronbeetle: Yes

23:25? cvarley: Drunken_F00l, how many wrenches did you have? Just the one?

23:25? @Drunken_F00l: cvarley: You can only get one.

23:26? ohyes: So, DF, did you tell voidy and thomas?

23:26? @Drunken_F00l: ohyes: I don't know about these people. If they had the times, I don't know how.

23:27? DSpawn: are you the only person who knew the times or could someone else have found them, perhaps using the new/old api? or a different method?

23:27? @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: Others had them.

23:30? unkz: Drunken_F00l: what about tf2items? you shut it down?

23:30? @Drunken_F00l: unkz: no

23:30? EwOkLuVeR69: f00l you should've crafted moer than once around taht time to not make it so obvious

23:31? @Drunken_F00l: EwOkLuVeR69: yes

23:31? Dist: Drunken_F00l if the ban wont be lifted, will you create a new steam account and buy a new copy of tf2?

23:31? @Drunken_F00l: Dist: I already have multiple accounts but I will miss my 6dig

23:31? DSpawn: DF - do you even care you dont have a wrench?

23:31? @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: no

23:31? FannyPack: here's my question DF and I won't ask another one cause I know you're busy answering other questions. But do you suppose you'd be ousted if the whole forum didn't rage about it?

23:32? @Drunken_F00l: FannyPack: I have no way of knowing. The whole forum raging was inevitable anyways.

23:32? FireSlash: Drunken_F00l, is tf2items down due to load? Or did something happen there too?

23:32? @Drunken_F00l: FireSlash: Heavy load

23:32? Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: you were piling up items for quite some time, did you know about how this event would work earlier?

23:33? @Drunken_F00l: Dark-Dragon: no i was saving metal for new hats

23:33? Totakeke7: Why'd you do it, DF?

23:33? @Drunken_F00l: Totakeke7: I wanted a wrench :3

23:33? netshroud: Drunken_F00l: is the VAC ban related to golden wrench frop, or not?

23:34? @Drunken_F00l: netshroud: The vac ban was because I had a script to craft as fast as possible before they removed the smelt metal blueprint and also because I used leaked times to get a wrench.

23:35? ohyes: lied, obviously.

23:35? @Drunken_F00l: ohyes: Yes, the TF2 team lied to you about how the wrench drop works

23:35? Sturmcock: DF, stop avoiding the question. How were the times leaked?

23:36? @Drunken_F00l: Sturmcock: By a person. Not anything in the binaries

23:36? Silv3r: Did someone from valve contact etc.

23:37? @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: Robin emailed me and gave him his home phone number wanting to explain what was going to happen before it happened. I was too busy at work to call immediately.

23:37? Cyborgmatt: Drunken_F00l, was the drop time leak done on purpose or accidental?

23:37? @Drunken_F00l: Cyborgmatt: Not accidently

23:38? hobomania: Drunken_F00l, did you enjoy the GW whilst it lasted?

23:38? @Drunken_F00l: hobomania: I didn't even use it

23:40? Silv3r: You said you knew times?

23:40? Silv3r: But yesterday you said it was all random...

23:41? @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: I was covering my ♥♥♥. It didn't help.

23:42? RabidZombie: LunarPrince: He didn't use logic. He used insider information then a script.

23:43? @Drunken_F00l: RabidZombie: The script was first actually. It was only for uncrafting/recrafting metal. It's part of the reason for the ban.

23:43? Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: give us robis number, come on you want to do it, dont you?

23:43? @Drunken_F00l: Dark-Dragon: That wouldn't be right

[spy beef]

Anyone know the new crafting times for the golden wrench?

[Hurmoth]

Okay, so the third thing is a new map called High Tower... http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4040&p=1

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Towering pillar of hats is awesome, how could you not like people running around with the hat equivalent of the Leaning Tower of Pisa on their heads? :rofl:

I don't like the way it looks. :(

For those following the Drunken F00l "scandal" here is a chat log answering many questions...

Wow... so it isn't random. It's based on when you craft an item. While I was wasting my items with useless crafts, I tried to craft a bunch of items at once (without realizing that a failed craft wouldn't result in anything). The exact moment I did that, someone found a Golden Wrench. I wonder if I would've found it had I crafted scrap metal instead of trying to craft random items together.

[gigapixels Veteran]

Sorry if somebody mentioned this before, but I think we're also getting a new wrench (not the golden wrench):

[Denis W. Veteran]

The TF2 site is so bloody slow at the moment, and it's even affecting steamcommunity.com. Also the Steam servers are down. :|

Is it because of TF2, the wrench scandal, or a mass swarm of people hitting F5?

[Chanser]

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/

Moveable sentry gun it seems, I think the downfall is your stuck up to a level 2 sentry gun?

[Doli]

I don't know how you could see that as it doesn't output that people erase items.

It happened, people were surprised at it (all talk was on).

[Hurmoth]

Only 11 wrenches to go and I still don't have one :cry:

[mail]

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/

Moveable sentry gun it seems, I think the downfall is your stuck up to a level 2 sentry gun?

That would be very useful.

[Nagisan]

That would be very useful.

(The following is based off what we can assume from that sole image strip alone)

While it would be useful, I do not think it should be done. An engy could easily build up a lvl 2 sentry safely behind front lines, then push out with his team and instantly have a lvl 2 sentry in a key area......

Sure its likely going to have a setup time after moving and what not, but chances are it will be faster than dropping a lvl 1 then upgrading it. Given that the only difference between it and a lvl 3 is turning speed, health, and the lvl 3 shoots rockets, it would be almost too powerful if an engy could easily build a lvl 2 sentry in safety then move it where he wants to go with it. It will likely have other downsides though, maybe it will be slightly weaker than normal lvl 2's? Or have the setup time of a lvl 1 plus the upgrade animation to a level 2? Maybe its redeploy time cannot be increased by wrenching it? I am also expecting that an engy cannot change weapons without dropping it first, and as others have suggested, he may even move slower with it due to it being larger.

[Chasethebase Veteran]

The Level 2 sentry has a slower fire rate as well.

Also, more Payload maps. Woo :D

[oceanmotion]

Only 11 wrenches to go and I still don't have one :cry:

We all get them anyway I think.

[spy beef]

Is the full engineer update going to be released today since it says so on the second paragraph of the day one update.

[Chasethebase Veteran]

Is the full engineer update going to be released today since it says so on the second paragraph of the day one update.

Tomorrow ;)

[mail]

(The following is based off what we can assume from that sole image strip alone)

While it would be useful, I do not think it should be done. An engy could easily build up a lvl 2 sentry safely behind front lines, then push out with his team and instantly have a lvl 2 sentry in a key area......

Sure its likely going to have a setup time after moving and what not, but chances are it will be faster than dropping a lvl 1 then upgrading it. Given that the only difference between it and a lvl 3 is turning speed, health, and the lvl 3 shoots rockets, it would be almost too powerful if an engy could easily build a lvl 2 sentry in safety then move it where he wants to go with it. It will likely have other downsides though, maybe it will be slightly weaker than normal lvl 2's? Or have the setup time of a lvl 1 plus the upgrade animation to a level 2? Maybe its redeploy time cannot be increased by wrenching it? I am also expecting that an engy cannot change weapons without dropping it first, and as others have suggested, he may even move slower with it due to it being larger.

Yeah it's just a game I don't analyse it, it's meant to be fun.

[Nagisan]

The Level 2 sentry has a slower fire rate as well.

Also, more Payload maps. Woo :D

No, the level 2 sentry has the same rate of fire and damage as the level 3 sentry, minus the rockets.

[Hurmoth]

We all get them anyway I think.

No, only 100 of the Golden Wrenches. We do get another redesigned wrench, but it isn't the Golden Wrench.

[Minifig]

I want a new CTF map. :(