Lost - Season 5

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Stay out of the conversations if you don't like them. Yes, neptune and I disagreed on things, but we didn't get upset at each other or anything like you are insinuating.

Just because you get confused by things doesn't mean others do.

NO I am Not confused at all, I understand BOTH sides of theories perfectly, BUT I just DON'T think there really is a Right or wrong to these arguments, at least yet. I DON'T think at this time the show has revealed enough to go either way 100%! Time Travel stuff is complex and Unknown, like I said. So, argue about it like you KNOW it has to be RIGHT is ... :rolleyes:

Like iLink posted above, you stated more than enough times that it IS a fact, rather than your own opinion.

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You are so annoying Jedi, who died and made you mod of this forum, half the fun of lost is discussing it with fellow fans of the show, whoever is right or wrong no one cares its a discussion, it certainly doesnt need people like you self proclaimed experts telling people to shut up.

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You are so annoying Jedi, who died and made you mod of this forum, half the fun of lost is discussing it with fellow fans of the show, whoever is right or wrong no one cares its a discussion, it certainly doesnt need people like you self proclaimed experts telling people to shut up.

What?

I definitely am Not acting like I am an expert!

I am just saying, Don't act you are right with this Time Travel stuff!

All these attitudes like "I am right, you are wrong" on Time Travel is nonsense.

However, I guess it's not my business if you guys actually LIKE the argument and thought it was Fun, and want to keep it going.

Sorry, I did NOT intent to Kill the fun!

So, my bad, I won't say anymore on it, then.

Forget I said anything.

RESUME!

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Interesting talk going on here! Good theory's

Episode 5.06 - 316 - Synopsis

The members of Oceanic 6 discover how to get back to the island, but not all of them want to return

Source: ABC

Episode 5x13 - New Set Report and Photos

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Miles off-island?! And Dharma guys with Swan logos?!?!

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Interesting talk going on here! Good theory's

Episode 5.06 - 316 - Synopsis

The members of Oceanic 6 discover how to get back to the island, but not all of them want to return

Source: ABC

Episode 5x13 - New Set Report and Photos

and here

Miles off-island?! And Dharma guys with Swan logos?!?!

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Now that Locke knows he's going to die, I get a feeling that once his corpse is returned to the island he'll be revived. Am I the only one who thinks this?

No-one is ever dead on Lost :p

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NO I am Not confused at all, I understand BOTH sides of theories perfectly, BUT I just DON'T think there really is a Right or wrong to these arguments, at least yet. I DON'T think at this time the show has revealed enough to go either way 100%! Time Travel stuff is complex and Unknown, like I said. So, argue about it like you KNOW it has to be RIGHT is ... :rolleyes:

Like iLink posted above, you stated more than enough times that it IS a fact, rather than your own opinion.

Uhm, thats because the part I was arguing, WAS correct.

Also, any post you find on the internet is opinion unless specifically stated as fact. I don't need to say 'I think' or 'IMO' every three words just so people like you aren't upset.

Now that Locke knows he's going to die, I get a feeling that once his corpse is returned to the island he'll be revived. Am I the only one who thinks this?

Nope, I'm positive he'll pop up cryptkeeper style.

I guess we need to find out how Jeremy Bentham died, so we can know what's going to happen.

Well the official story is that he hung himself. Its possible he really did that, because he was told her had to die.

Other than that, the other logical explanation is Sayid killed him.

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He was told he had to die "on the Island". How could he get off the island if already dead ?!

Sayid killing him (supposing he was on Ben's list) is a little extreme, as Sayid wouldn't just kill someone he knows back in the Island just because Ben wants so. Especially Locke.

So, that brings us back to the same question: How he really died ? If it really was a suicide, then WHY ? if not, then, who killed him and made it look like he hung up himself ? Couldn't be the same guys who are after the O6 (Widmore's guys... maybe ) !

After all, if you look at the Ben-Locke relationship, it makes all the sense in the world Ben did kill him. He already shot him and left him for dead in a grave-hole, before that he lied to him about pushing the button (when he was being captured by the losties)... I dunno! *confused*

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He was told he had to die "on the Island". How could he get off the island if already dead ?!

Thats exactly why he didn't die on the island. Richard said he had to die. Not when or where. Also, we know that he was alive off-island because he met with The O6, Walt, etc.

Sayid killing him (supposing he was on Ben's list) is a little extreme, as Sayid wouldn't just kill someone he knows back in the Island just because Ben wants so. Especially Locke.

If Ben somehow convinced him that Locke had something to do with Nadia's death (maybe to try and get Sayid back to the island) then its not too much of a stretch.

So, that brings us back to the same question: How he really died ? If it really was a suicide, then WHY ? if not, then, who killed him and made it look like he hung up himself ? Couldn't be the same guys who are after the O6 (Widmore's guys... maybe ) !

Why? Because Richard told him he had to die.

After all, if you look at the Ben-Locke relationship, it makes all the sense in the world Ben did kill him. He already shot him and left him for dead in a grave-hole, before that he lied to him about pushing the button (when he was being captured by the losties)... I dunno! *confused*

But Ben knows that Locke needed to go back to the island in order for Ben to go back, so I don't know if he'd risk that. We know theres only two things Ben wants. Penny dead and to get back to the island.

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- Nah. Ben doesn't want to just get back to the island, he wants ALL the losties to get back to the island ! Now why would he kill Locke as Locke's mission outside the island is also to convince the O6 to return back ? Ben wanting Locke dead in the island is a fact, but outside the island and given the context it just doesn't make sens for now.

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Hi,

- Nah. Ben doesn't want to just get back to the island, he wants ALL the losties to get back to the island ! Now why would he kill Locke as Locke's mission outside the island is also to convince the O6 to return back ? Ben wanting Locke dead in the island is a fact, but outside the island and given the context it just doesn't make sens for now.

But Locke's death was the single thing that finally convinced Jack that he needed to go back. Locke talking to the O6 didn't convince them.

Ben wanting the O6 to go back is only his means to an end of him getting back. If he could do it without them, he would.

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I guess episode might have gotten it right. So why, if anyone can tell, does Ben argue with Mrs.Hawkings about the timelimit ? He makes it like Mrs.Hawkings could have gotten him more time ? And that goes without asking why exactly that much time ? and what would happen if the deadline is not met ? (from some spoilers I've seen/read, they got to the Island with 2 more people)

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^ Because that is when the island is going to 'flash' back to the current time so they can get back on it. Thats what the 'event detected' the pendulum were working towards. The location and the time that the island would appear.

He's not really 'arguing' with her, hes just upset because he doesn't think he can get them all together in 70 hours.

If the deadline isn't met, they might to have to wait who knows how long til the island flashes to a time when they can get back on it again.

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Episode 5.07 - The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham

Wednesday, February 25, 2009

09:00-10:06PM EST Lost

10:06-11:00PM EST Life On Mars

Lost will be extended by 4 minutes on this date and will end at 10:06 rather than 10:02. This is going to be a big episode in the storyline. Life on Mars will air with less commercials on that night.

Source: ABC

Episode 5.06 - 316 - Snippet

Mrs Hawking gives something to Jack that MUST go back with Locke's body along with a special item that comes in pairs that is related to Jack's grandfather.

Source: DarkUFO

Very interesting!!

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Does anyone else reckon that since seeing some of the Oceanic 6 in Dharma suits in spoilers from the upcoming episodes that the reason the Dharma Initiative exists is because of them, that they are the ones who bring Dharma to the island? I know its a very out their theory and has many things which can completely make this not true
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Mrs Hawking gives something to Jack that MUST go back with Locke's body along with a special item that comes in pairs that is related to Jack's grandfather.

When you posted that, the first thing I thought of was the black and white stones that Jack found in 'Adam and Eve's hands in the caves area from the beginning of the series. Not sure what the significance would be, though.

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