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Does this mean Google will stop helping Mozilla?

No, yesterday or the day before mozilla actually renewed their contract with google for 3 more years. They are both open source and are striving towards pushing standards compliance which I only see as a good thing.

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It's actually of benefit to Mozilla that Google is getting out a browser. It can and will serve as a lab for some ideas that Firefox wouldn't have otherwise done. And Gears and v8 are open source, meaning Firefox could implement them. Both browsers are better for it and it's a win-win situation for the consumer :)

for XerXis: you should read it again. and maybe another time. just to be sure. V8? Gears? plug-ins priority? processes levels and sandboxing? you are sure you read it right? :p

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It's actually of benefit to Mozilla that Google is getting out a browser. It can and will serve as a lab for some ideas that Firefox wouldn't have otherwise done. And Gears and v8 are open source, meaning Firefox could implement them. Both browsers are better for it and it's a win-win situation for the consumer :)

for XerXis: you should read it again. and maybe another time. just to be sure. V8? Gears? plug-ins priority? processes levels and sandboxing? you are sure you read it right? :p

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, google coming out with its own browser. really, it's good. I just don't like hyping something before it's even released as beta just because it has google's name on it and they made it in comic book form instead of just listing there ideas :)

- each tab in it's own process and sandboxed: see ie7 and ie8, altough it's nice that xp users will also have a sandboxed browser instead of only vista users

- v8: all the major browsers are working on JIT javascript parsers, nothing special or innovative there, it was the next logical step, let's compare them when they are finished instead of hyping up v8 because of some comic

- new tab: see ie8, altough they also threw in some quick dial from opera with the difference that you can't customise it (at least that's how it seams)

- tabs above url address bar: so what? and you could do this without trouble in firefox or opera if you want

- based on webkit: certainly nothing new here, but it's nice to see that windows users got another choice after the safari fiasco

- custom skinned application: ugh, the only thing i hate about opera and chrome looks like they are going to follow them

In short, i see nothing exciting in the comic, nothing truly innovative. But let's wait and see what they will bring us. Hopefully it will be good, but I refuse to act like this will be some sort of miracle before there has been a build released :)

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It won't be a miracle, on that we agree :) But there are some nice ideas in this, like the v8 parser. I can't wait to plow through it, see what it's capable of, but just the little fact that it's parsing directly and everything into machine code is quite interesting. Basically though, the browser is more outstanding in a developer way ( Gears is really nice).

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Like I said... borderline monopoly. Wonder how long it's going to take for a major company to call them out.

That's a pretty stupid statement. Even if they don't change give you an option to change the default search engine (which is highly unlikely given the nature of the google firefox bar) there is still plenty of competition out there in the browser market.

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- tabs above url address bar: so what? and you could do this without trouble in firefox or opera if you want

Not really. It's not so much about placement as it is about relationship. In Chrome, the address par is essentially a sibling, or a property of, the tab. It is not independent or browser-wide as it is with every other browser today IINM. Other browsers give you the facade of the address bar being tied to the tabs (since they switch the referenced URL when tabs are focused) but it's not really the case. In Chrome, Google is tying the address bar to the tab as the presence of a tab represents a completely separate process and therefore a completely separate address bar, etc.

So those that are crying about how this isn't a new feature are looking at it as strictly a UI design, when it's really much more than that.

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Hmmm, considering most (I would say all, but I haven't really tried all of them) Google apps are pieces of Garbage that actually do what they're supposed to do, I don't think Chrome will be a hit.

Take Google Earth for example. This app has plenty of features, I have to use it at least once a week now, very useful and all. But look deeper, flawed GUI, laggy, eats up all your memory, ...

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Hmmm, considering most (I would say all, but I haven't really tried all of them) Google apps are pieces of Garbage that actually do what they're supposed to do, I don't think Chrome will be a hit.

Take Google Earth for example. This app has plenty of features, I have to use it at least once a week now, very useful and all. But look deeper, flawed GUI, laggy, eats up all your memory, ...

Umm what? Google apps are pretty good, it works, and if you don't like them, use alternatives. Why are Google apps "pieces of Garbage" if they do what their supposed to do? lol?

Google Earth works great on my 4 year old laptop, doesn't lag one bit. And my laptop has pretty low specs...

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Like I said... borderline monopoly. Wonder how long it's going to take for a major company to call them out.

Unless they actually keep you from going to certain websites, I don't see how it's a monopoly. So you can't change the search provider in the little search box - so what?

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That's a pretty stupid statement. Even if they don't change give you an option to change the default search engine (which is highly unlikely given the nature of the google firefox bar) there is still plenty of competition out there in the browser market.

I'm sorry, but how is what I just said stupid?

It doesn't matter if there's competition in the browser market. That is a stupid statement. What matters is that Google is potentially using its power in one industry to leverage itself in another industry. It's the same argument that was used against Microsoft. The exact same one. If Microsoft is called out -- by Google of all companies -- for not allowing you to uninstall Windows Search, then why should Google not be called out if they don't allow you to use another search engine on its browser?

Microsoft has to allow other search engines than Live Search/MSN on Internet Explorer.

I fail to see how ANYTHING of what I said is stupid.

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