Marshalus Veteran Posted October 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 17, 2008 As most everyone here knows, on Tuesday, we rolled out Neowin 5. In our front page announcement and in our forum thread we talked about some of the improvements that we'd made over the previous version like a new design, color scheme, XHTML 1.0 Strict rendering, etc. Based on some of the great feedback we've got from you over the last couple of days, we've tweaked a few things and will continue to do so in the near future. The primary focus of the Neowin front page is news. Since 2001, that has been a lot of what generates new visitors and gets them coming into the forums and becoming regular visitors. In our announcements, we touched on something that we changed, but that I'm going to further elaborate on here. Aside from all the new "sexy" design changes, the biggest change you've probably already noticed is the overwhelming majority of space on the front page has changed from C&P news to what is now originally generated content by Neowin staffers and contributors. Lets take a look at the current front page, but with an emphasis on space dedicated to content. At the top, you'll find our new event header. In this case it's a quick link to the Stardock sponsored GUI Championships. As most of you know, Stardock is a financial contributor to Neowin, but the GUI Championships are something that Neowin has promoted and contributed to for a long time. In the future, we'll be able to use this space for highlighting other contents or events. What this section will also do, is serve as a quick link to content focused around long term coverage or big events in technology. Examples would be the upcoming PDC 2008 which Neowin's Tom Warren will be reporting live from, CES which we should have a presence at in 2009, or to centralize news about an long term event like the release of major technology such as Windows 7, etc. In the focus section right under that, we're able to provide some quick links to popular stories or forum threads of the day/week. Under that, the two big blue "ads" will be used to highlight major stories, reviews, or editorials. These images will rotate and their content will change on a regular basis. It's also a great way for us to highlight other Neowin services such as our Podcast, Apple forums, Shift Linux, or other things that you may not have even known Neowin did. But the real guts of this is the news in the blue section of this image. For years Neowin has been a mostly cut & paste website, meaning we've syndicated the content of other news websites, but contributed little of our own. I've joked with staffers that C&P is like a drug, but it's one that we've decided to kick the habit of. Our main news section will now be things that are exclusives or originals stories written in our own words. This means our news team are no longer just considered "news posters" but "news writers" -- this is something we've wanted to do for over 3 years but have not fully been able or willing to do until now. It marks an important shift and our growth as a site. It is something we're very proud that we've decided to do. But, we still have to be true to our roots, and we're not fully dumping C&P. Our new "Around the Web" section is dedicated to syndication of content from other sites and forums around the Internet. We're a small staff, with limited resources in terms of time and manpower, so we will still utilize C&P to supplement our primary focus. However, our staffers will be concentrating on writing their own stories and as time goes on their submissions will be less and less. This is where we're asking our members to help by contributing stories they find interesting to the Submit to Newsdesk feature. Instead of posting to "Breaking News" AKA "Back Page News" in the forums, we encourage you to use the Submit to Newsdesk feature. We know that in the past, we've been slow to accept submissions to the news desk. This will not be the case going forward and we are going to make a commitment to reviewing and accepting (or rejecting) submissions to Around the Web much faster. We hope that you enjoy the new direction that we're taking our front page. We look forward to expanding our reach and providing our users with more insightful and powerful news as we move forward. As always, your feedback is encouraged. If you don't want to post something in public, feel free to contact us (see below) if you have any questions or comments you'd like to share in private. Thanks! Michael Stanclift (Marshalus) Managing Editor [email protected] Shane Pitman Editor in Chief [email protected] Steven Parker (Neobond) Administrator [email protected] Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted October 17, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted October 17, 2008 All of you are to be commended on the work that you have done. The Main page IMHO looks better than it ever did. (Y) (Y) (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted October 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 17, 2008 Agreed. Neowin looks much better than it did with previous designs. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambiance Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hear, hear! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren89 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 in looks, v5 is definitely better than v4. hope you guys keep up the good work for neowin! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeemed Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Agreed, keep up the good work devs and staff. There might be things that need to be ironed out and things for the end-user to get used to, but it is definitely a step forward. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuietStorm21A Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Thank You and keep doing what you do because it makes Neowin great. Thx again! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted October 17, 2008 Global Moderator Share Posted October 17, 2008 Some people just don't adapt well to change. I however do. Excellent Job to the entire staff (Y)(Y)(Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vip Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I love it, much thanks for all the time and effort, it's much appreciated! Now, we're waiting on the forum which Flishy said was coming! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Very nice post to clear things up for people. I love the new design and I am glad with all the hard work that has happened around here. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted October 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 17, 2008 wow.. nice... good read and i like the changes made recently. Bring on the changes to the forums too :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted October 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 17, 2008 Congrats everyone's work is much appreciated (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoJD Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Looks great, but something I miss about the last version is that the news "popped" at you immediately when seeing the site. Now, it all just looks like scattered text. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Thanks for clearing everything up (Y) . I am glad that Neowin writers are making more of an effort to write original stories rather than just copy & paste. This will make Neowin much more unique compared to other websites similar to us. Scirwode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 wow.. nice... good read and i like the changes made recently. Bring on the changes to the forums too :) Change on the forums wouldnt really hurt. though it feels like it was changes just recently...time flies! Anyway good work on the new design. You guys are the best (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalE Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Great job on the new home page. It looks wonderful (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonmat179 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 wooo...! I very like Neowin v5 !! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I really wish the option to go back to Shiftv4 was here until you get the v5 fine tuned. Here's my main gripe of the layout, it's a total waste of screen real estate on a widescreen resolution. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
APH-Alex Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 ^ Click the button to expand Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 ^ Click the button to expand Well the location of that button is not intuitive, nor is the result. I still have a 5cm margin on each side at 1920x1200. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
APH-Alex Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Screen shot? Press Ctrl+0 as well. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Screen shot? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
APH-Alex Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I mean with the expand button pressed, and Ctrl+0 pressed. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PricklyPoo Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Looks great imo, I think it could just be a little bit wider. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I mean with the expand button pressed, and Ctrl+0 pressed. :) Yeah, you edited after I posted. But the result only changes the text size in the body, not the width of the margin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/683584-why-neowin-5-is-important-for-us/#findComment-589981676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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