Rudy Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 and the new location of the reload button is going to take some getting used to.. well the entire browser is actually. it will take a bit to get used to but the new location makes sense (and takes less space) Safari: http://img.skitch.com/20090224-baiqn2r2xhp...u64up7mbq4q.jpgFirefox: http://img.skitch.com/20090224-8s87kpjfxpx...mrppska2fx2.jpg Default installs of both: no addons, hacks, extensions, etc. Freshly opened. For comparison: Comparing Safari and Firefox with 6 tabs open (this page, wikipedia, youtube, daringfireball, uncrate, skitch) the difference was 40mb with safari at 157mb, Firefox at 120mb. Safari is aggressively caching loaded resources so that swapping back to recent pages is 'speedy'. I don't mind it using lots of memory as long as it's to improve responsiveness, that's why I paid for all that ram right? You can...remember it's Apple - works only from top right corner where the gripper appears. a bit annoying, hopefully this will be fixed in the final version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 you can't organize tabs... (edit: nvm, figured it out)and the new location of the reload button is going to take some getting used to.. well the entire browser is actually. and yeah, apple screws their own HIG all the time, the dock breaks a crap load of rules too What human-interface guidelines are being broken here? I'm just curious, as I know that Apple has actually historically been quite good at adhering to the HIG they've set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 You can...remember it's Apple - works only from top right corner where the gripper appears. yeah you are right, dragging from the gripper only is a complete apple thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakehn Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Safari: http://img.skitch.com/20090224-baiqn2r2xhp...u64up7mbq4q.jpgFirefox: http://img.skitch.com/20090224-8s87kpjfxpx...mrppska2fx2.jpg Default installs of both: no addons, hacks, extensions, etc. Freshly opened. For comparison: Comparing Safari and Firefox with 6 tabs open (this page, wikipedia, youtube, daringfireball, uncrate, skitch) the difference was 40mb with safari at 157mb, Firefox at 120mb. Safari is aggressively caching loaded resources so that swapping back to recent pages is 'speedy'. Safari: http://img.skitch.com/20090224-baiqn2r2xhp...u64up7mbq4q.jpg Firefox: http://img.skitch.com/20090224-8s87kpjfxpx...mrppska2fx2.jpg Default installs of both: no addons, hacks, extensions, etc. Freshly opened. For comparison: Comparing Safari and Firefox with 6 tabs open (this page, wikipedia, youtube, daringfireball, uncrate, skitch) the difference was 40mb with safari at 157mb, Firefox at 120mb. Safari is aggressively caching loaded resources so that swapping back to recent pages is 'speedy'. Check this out: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Check this out: and? Not sure what you're trying to show here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I have 4 tabs open on mine and its only taking 125 megs, i think its pretty good on resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 ^ yeah i figured it out, thanks thoughdon't know if i am a fan of the whole tabs on top thing, yeah you save screen real estate but really :s It's a new concept if you haven't yet used Google Chrome, but once you get used to it, it's really quite nice. Since it's also tab-centric, it makes moving tabs into new windows, etc. quite easy. (Even though this could be done before.) I think it's mainly done to save some valuable screen real estate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakehn Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 and? Not sure what you're trying to show here... The amount of Memory that safari is using with only one tab open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 ^ i used chrome and didn't like it much there either... but wow is the windows version of safari like a replica of chrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 What? It's not about opinions at all, but about facts. IE7 has paltry standards support (CSS/JS) and its engine is pretty damn slow compared to Safari 3.2. Yeah, sorry about my post, I guess I (yet again) am terrible at wording my intentions sometimes. Anyway, I guess what I was trying to get at is that I've also experienced issues with Safari in the past that caused it to either run slowly or not at all. So I could understand why some would have preferred IE or another browser. Some just like IE because it's there and functional, even if broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Yeah, sorry about my post, I guess I (yet again) am terrible at wording my intentions sometimes.Anyway, I guess what I was trying to get at is that I've also experienced issues with Safari in the past that caused it to either run slowly or not at all. So I could understand why some would have preferred IE or another browser. Some just like IE because it's there and functional, even if broken. will never understand why people still use IE6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted February 24, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 24, 2009 The tab is integrated with the window toolbar--either they keep the standard OS behavior of moving the window with your cursor or they change the behavior to move tabs. I think most people would prefer to keep the former behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Looks like you need to do a little bit of research. Apple built Webkit off of KHTML to use as the basis for Safari. Later on, Apple released Webkit as open source, and it was used by Google to create Chrome.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webkit I'm fully aware of what WebKit is and its history. You seemed to be implying that Chrome was a copy of Safari, when in fact it wasn't. One could make the argument Safari was a "copy" of KHTML. will never understand why people still use IE6... Again... Because it's there and works, as badly as it may work. Especially within large corporations, most end users have no choice. It's either IE or not Internet at all. The tab is integrated with the window toolbar--either they keep the standard OS behavior of moving the window with your cursor or they change the behavior to move tabs. I think most people would prefer to keep the former behavior. I agree. At first, I thought the tab gripper was a bit off, but now I understand why it's there. That is solely for moving the tabs around within the window. The actual tab itself can be gripped and moved to a new window. Thus, the two portions of the tab are accomplishing different behavior. Thus, I think the gripper is here to stay. But it shouldn't be too hard to get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The tab is integrated with the window toolbar--either they keep the standard OS behavior of moving the window with your cursor or they change the behavior to move tabs. I think most people would prefer to keep the former behavior. yeah that's a pretty good point. Or they could give the option of having the tab toolbar on top or bottom... Again... Because it's there and works, as badly as it may work. Especially within large corporations, most end users have no choice. It's either IE or not Internet at all. but the thing is, almost all major intranet software supports IE7 now. Only reason i can see a company needing ie6 is web developpers testing out websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 yeah that's a pretty good point. Or they could give the option of having the tab toolbar on top or bottom...but the thing is, almost all major intranet software supports IE7 now. Only reason i can see a company needing ie6 is web developpers testing out websites I agree with your first point... Perhaps the gripper should be placed on the lower right, just as it is with all other OS X windows. Would be consistent, and you'd understand immediately what the purpose of the widget is... As for IE6, perhaps. I really don't know why it's still being used today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i am not a fan of how the main window buttons are so close to the close tab button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0u1s Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 how do you import a bookmarks.html to Safari ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 go to "file-> import bookmarks" and then load the .html file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0u1s Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 there is no "File" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadBoat89 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i'm guessing you are on windows... press the alt button to bring up the menubar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale. Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 It's broken hotmail :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumi Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 It takes so much time to open homepage ( google.com ) , when i first startup it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted February 24, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 24, 2009 Blimey, little big on the memory usage! Aside from that, it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 24, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 24, 2009 Blimey, little big on the memory usage! Aside from that, it's good. Yeah I love the speed it loads the sites but the memory puts me off it completely, I hate to imagine how high it could go after a few hours usage because I can have FF open for 6+ hours and it will only use 160mb max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspiria Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Interesting how on Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger the titlebar/toolbar is like Leopard (including the white inactive state which obviously isn't in Tiger), but the bottom status bar is brushed metal. Love the continuity by Apple. But I suppose 'beta' is an acceptable excuse..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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