Apple responds to Microsoft ads: "a PC is no bargain"


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Yet as a Windows fanboy you have no problem accepting 'lies and exaggerations' from Microsoft?

PC being cheaper and having a much wider variety of features yet not lacking in power is not a lie or exaggeration.

And since when did I become a Microsoft fanboy? Was it during the years I used only Linux? I haven't said Macs were junk or that they were useless. I've only gone so far as to say that it's benefits are marginal overall making a move from PCs to Mac a lateral move with a high cost. By no means is that a stretch. However, many Apple fanatics will exaggerate or even outright lie--sometimes out of ignorance and not out of intention--about any faults Windows has. They also tend to have inconsistent reasoning or double standards when it comes to criticism. It's just so friggin' annoying. Their better-than-you attitude doesn't help matters either.

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Wow, way to go collectivism. Collectivising all Mac users as a single entity.

I never made any such claims - my parents own two PC's based on my recommendation to go with Dell. Sine receiving them they have been incredibly happy. You really think that I'm sort of zealot who goes around imposing my views on others?

How about treating Mac users as individuals instead of lumping them all in one boat.

Thats exactly what you did a few posts ago :laugh:

Seriously. I prefer 14.1" laptops but I'm not going around calling people dumb for wanting a 17", 19", or 20" screen on their laptop. Hell some people buy a laptop and it just sits on their desk all day everyday until they take a vacation once a year and bring it with them. Some people only care to move it around in the various rooms of their house and have no intentions of going anywhere outside their home with it. It's just so mind boggling stupid for people to get ****ed off because they bough a laptop that doesn't fit your usage habits. Really, I think they're just trying to dismiss the argument because there is no way they can refute it. They want people to see that Macs are superior and when somebody points out that Apple doesn't build a laptop with the features they want they tell them they don't need those features or they call the user stupid.
Ill do that when you and your buddies stop claiming Macs are Superior to PCs and that everyone who uses a PC is poor and ignorant.

The only reason that debate is made is because the only non-subjective claim Windows users have against Macs is the price.

Mac users don't say Windows users are poor. They say that Macs are more expensive, and that they can justify them for themselves. You can't say that Macs are overpriced, but I paid a lot for my laptop too. It's a contradiction in terms.

PC being cheaper and having a much wider variety of features yet not lacking in power is not a lie or exaggeration.

I would say that it a serious misrepresentation of what is happening.

The PC market is larger, there are more configurations on offer where they focus more in one direction than another. The $700 17inch laptop that has a 17 screen, uses desktop components and low cost but the battery life is 1 1/2 hours.

Apple has a smaller rage of laptops and desktops because they are only focusing on a certain market segment. To compare, therefore, a $700 to MacBook Pro (which is a workstation replacement) would be as stupid as me comparing the $700 HP laptop to a high end ultra light, long battery life etc model from Sony and then claiming that the Sony is a rip off.

The PC world offers variety only if you actually care about wanting a computer that is outside what Apple has to offer.

And since when did I become a Microsoft fanboy? Was it during the years I used only Linux? I haven't said Macs were junk or that there were useless. I've only gone so far as to say that it's benefits are marginal overall making a move from PCs to Mac a lateral move with a high cost. By no means is that a stretch. However, many Apple fanatics will exaggerate or even outright lie--sometimes out of ignorance and not out of intention--about any faults Windows has. They also tend to have inconsistent reasoning or double standards when it comes to criticism. It's just so friggin' annoying. Their better-than-you attitude doesn't help matters either.

The moment when you start spewing hatred against something as if it were a personal threat.

Windows does have faults - you're deliberately choosing to ignore them in favour of a focus on price alone.

Some of us actually use our computers for productive purposes and thus we focus on what we are most productive using - not whether or not we can dive for the lowest price humanly possible.

The only reason that debate is made is because the only non-subjective claim Windows users have against Macs is the price.

Mac users don't say Windows users are poor. They say that Macs are more expensive, and that they can justify them for themselves. You can't say that Macs are overpriced, but I paid a lot for my laptop too. It's a contradiction in terms.

Great post. An important point is this: Over priced means that the individual has paid more for something than they need to; disproportionately a higher cost for an experience that less that equal to the price attached.

That is why I keep hammering on about the operating system - because a computer and the experience is more than just the hardware; it is the integration of hardware and software that make using a computer enjoyable and productive - or something that is miserable.

The only reason that debate is made is because the only non-subjective claim Windows users have against Macs is the price.

Mac users don't say Windows users are poor. They say that Macs are more expensive, and that they can justify them for themselves. You can't say that Macs are overpriced, but I paid a lot for my laptop too. It's a contradiction in terms.

The difference being i payed the cost of a top end mac book pro , And got a far better system for the same price . No contradiction at all .

The difference being i payed the cost of a top end mac book pro , And got a far better system for the same price .

And yet you ignore the operating system and have an orgasm over the specifications.

Then again, I guess you just like staring at a screen all day.

The only reason that debate is made is because the only non-subjective claim Windows users have against Macs is the price.

And variety. And a larger software library. And industry standard software exclusives. And versions that cater towards business.

The moment when you start spewing hatred against something as if it were a personal threat.

Windows does have faults - you're deliberately choosing to ignore them in favour of a focus on price alone.

Some of us actually use our computers for productive purposes and thus we focus on what we are most productive using - not whether or not we can dive for the lowest price humanly possible.

I'm not spewing hatred against OS X or Apple itself. I could care less. The point of contention is how many of their users behave. I have a problem with them. With the things they say. This is evidenced by my lack of attacks on Apple products themselves. I've never said they were bad or anything along those lines.

I'm not ignoring the faults of Windows. This thread isn't about the things I hate in Windows. Like any OS, there are things that are bad. Things that annoy me. Does it comfort you to know that I'm not in love with Windows?

And? I have no problems with people buying a Mac. I have no problems with people liking the Mac. I have problems with people going around exaggerating or making up Windows flaws. That's the issue I have. How many times have you read some idiot posting about Windows BSODing everyday or how you have to reboot it everyday or how it will get a new virus everyday or how the hardware for a PC will die in one year guaranteed? I've read quite a few of those. It's not true and certainly not as frequent as they want everyone to believe. Then of course there are all the claims that Windows can't do something when it actually can. Or that Windows does something bad that it actually doesn't do. Or they hate Windows because it does something even though the OS they use does the exact same thing. That gets even more annoying.

I would say that it a serious misrepresentation of what is happening.

The PC market is larger, there are more configurations on offer where they focus more in one direction than another. The $700 17inch laptop that has a 17 screen, uses desktop components and low cost but the battery life is 1 1/2 hours.

Apple has a smaller rage of laptops and desktops because they are only focusing on a certain market segment. To compare, therefore, a $700 to MacBook Pro (which is a workstation replacement) would be as stupid as me comparing the $700 HP laptop to a high end ultra light, long battery life etc model from Sony and then claiming that the Sony is a rip off.

The PC world offers variety only if you actually care about wanting a computer that is outside what Apple has to offer.

No, there is a much wider variety of laptops in the PC world period. Anything Apple has will have dozens of comparable PCs in different configuration with different features.

Also they're not directly comparing specific Mac to a specific PC laptop in these advertisements. They are bringing attention to the limited selection of configurations on Macs when compared to the PC world. It's perfectly legitimate.

Yeah, it's not good to compare a $699 laptop to a $2,000 MacBook Pro but that's not the point of these ads. The point is "Hey, I want a laptop that has x features for y price. Oh, I see a MacBook doesn't meet those requirements. I guess I'll get a PC instead." or even "Hey, I want a PC that meets my needs for as little money as possible. I see the MacBooks are out of my budget. PC it is." There isn't much to argue against that. It's true.

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And variety. And a larger software library. And industry standard software exclusives. And versions that cater towards business.

You mean the millions of crap freeware and shareware out there for Windows? the over priced garbage from big name vendors like Adobe who drop support for their products the moment that a new operating system is released?

Your justification is as almost as pathetic as Linux users who boast about 10,000 packages in their distro repository.

Quantity does not equal quality.

And yet you ignore the operating system and have an orgasm over the specifications.

Then again, I guess you just like staring at a screen all day.

Because the operating system is irrelevant for me , Im just going to format it and install whatever i choose .

Its all subjective .

Because the operating system is irrelevant for me , Im just going to format it and install whatever i choose .

Its all subjective .

So you're claiming that the operating system running on it has no impact on the over all experience of the machine when it comes to reliability, stability, battery life etc?

Mate, you're really grasping at straws now when the only thing you have focused on is the hardware where I have focused on the whole computer - hardware as well as software.

And yet you ignore the operating system and have an orgasm over the specifications.

Then again, I guess you just like staring at a screen all day.

You do realize that saying one OS is better than the other is completely subjective, but I would like to point out that 85% of the market seems to be subjectively choosing Windows...

-Spenser

Not at all , I simply said i dont care about what operating system it ships with because its going to be reformated . Windows isnt tied to specific systems so users like myself and the others on this form dont need to worry about what operating system their computer ships with aslong as they have a valid windows license.

You mean the millions of crap freeware and shareware out there for Windows? the over priced garbage from big name vendors like Adobe who drop support for their products the moment that a new operating system is released?

Your justification is as almost as pathetic as Linux users who boast about 10,000 packages in their distro repository.

Quantity does not equal quality.

You do realize that "big name vendors" make the same **** for the Mac with similar abysmal support.

Argument FAIL.

The difference being i payed the cost of a top end mac book pro , And got a far better system for the same price . No contradiction at all .

But there is a contradiction. You complain that Mac users are calling you poor, but they aren't. You pay a premium for a Mac, that's all. Whether it's a premium you want to pay or not is up to you. It might not be a premium at all in your opinion, if you're a Windows fan. Just overpricing.

And these ads are targeting those who want a cheap computer, and seem to be targeting people on a budget ($1000, etc). Not poor, but limited in some way.

You do realize that saying one OS is better than the other is completely subjective, but I would like to point out that 85% of the market seems to be subjectively choosing Windows...

Do you even READ THE POSTS?!

The over all experience is dictated by the operating system running. You can rant and rave about how great the hardware specifications are but they impact very little on whether a computer is enjoyable and productive to use.

You are fixating on specifications - I'm concerned about the OVER ALL EXPERIENCE! It is the over all experience that justifies the price and not just the hardware or the operating system alone.

Comprende?

Do you even READ THE POSTS?!

The over all experience is dictated by the operating system running. You can rant and rave about how great the hardware specifications are but they impact very little on whether a computer is enjoyable and productive to use.

You are fixating on specifications - I'm concerned about the OVER ALL EXPERIENCE! It is the over all experience that justifies the price and not just the hardware or the operating system alone.

Comprende?

Yeah. No ****. And I'm saying that the major majority of the market prefers the overall experience they get from a PC. There's a reason for that - it's called Mac+OS X isn't the end-all be-all of, well, anything. Windows is just as good if not better for most people. They can get that great experience for far less by getting a PC.

-Spenser

And yet you ignore the operating system and have an orgasm over the specifications.

Then again, I guess you just like staring at a screen all day.

I seem to enjoy not waiting 20 seconds for Firefox to load, and getting more than 5 FPS in FarCry 2 (one of my favourite games), and booting up in 19 seconds for 700$ less. Better specs, lower price! And of course you tell us that that's not a good thing and we should look at the OS.

I have no problem with Vista. Hell, it's a GREAT OS. It does what I want it to, it doesn't hang, in my entire time of using it I am yet to see one BSoD. The functionality is great, tons of features. It is every bit as good as OS X Leopard which I have tested and used via OSx86 for months, and in many areas, it surpasses. Now, if I wanted a pretty case, <snipped>, and sub par specs for a premium price, I would have bought that.

Lemme tell ya something, pal. If I were to get a Macbook Pro, I would install Windows on it anyway. Your's may be different, but in my opinion, Windows is far superior in many ways. And quite frankly, I would rather be using Linux than pay an extra 700-1000$ more for the same PC + a cool looking case with an Apple logo.

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no need to flame
I seem to enjoy not waiting 20 seconds for Firefox to load, and getting more than 5 FPS in FarCry 2 (one of my favourite games), and booting up in 19 seconds for 700$ less. Better specs, lower price! And of course you tell us that that's not a good thing and we should look at the OS.

I have no problem with Vista. Hell, it's a GREAT OS. It does what I want it to, it doesn't hang, in my entire time of using it I am yet to see one BSoD. The functionality is great, tons of features. It is every bit as good as OS X Leopard which I have tested and used via OSx86 for months, and in many areas, it surpasses. Now, if I wanted a pretty case, <snipped>, and sub par specs for a premium price, I would have bought that.

Lemme tell ya something, pal. If I were to get a Macbook Pro, I would install Windows on it anyway. Your's may be different, but in my opinion, Windows is far superior in many ways. And quite frankly, I would rather be using Linux than pay an extra 700-1000$ more for the same PC + a cool looking case with an Apple logo.

<snipped>

Windows users claim they are 100% perfect and never resort to subjective statements and here we are a Windows user making such a statement.

Interesting enough I don't see a single moderator up hold the rule that you can't call an operating system 'sh*tty' or suck.

Edit: Funny enough Firefox loads on my machine 3-5 seconds. Then again - a Windows user lying, like thats never happened before *rolls eyes*

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now you do
And yet you ignore the operating system and have an orgasm over the specifications.

Then again, I guess you just like staring at a screen all day.

Are you implying Windows doesn't do anything? That doesn't make any sense. I use my computer all day, every day. My hardware and software is about as tightly integrated and stable as it can get, and none of it is Apple.

And yet you ignore the operating system and have an orgasm over the specifications.

Then again, I guess you just like staring at a screen all day.

What's so special about OS X that makes it worth to pay the premium for someone doing everything they need for less price? You are hammering the "overall experience" a lot. What is this overall experience?

I have an iBook and a 22" Vista desktop. I don't seem to miss anything on my desktop. In fact out of the box it streams all my media to my Xbox 360 (or PS3 - out of the box a Mac won't stream anything to even PS3). I have a kickass Photo manager in Picasa that is easily all over iPhoto. Or I can use Windows Live Photo Gallery to do nested tags in my photos (or WinEx for other files) that I don't yet see OS X supporting natively.

My Vista has only ever had BSOD after the first six months which was traced down to a faulty mobo - a problem very common with Apple hardware as well.

So as you seem to be claiming again and again - OS X's "overall experience" means **** to my needs.

<generalized bull****>It seems all you do is post how OS X is god send all day on your browser. You could've done that using a netbook for far lesser money and much better browser than the awful safari</generalized bull****> :rolleyes:

What's so special about OS X that makes it worth to pay the premium for someone doing everything they need for less price? You are hammering the "overall experience" a lot. What is this overall experience?

I have an iBook and a 22" Vista desktop. I don't seem to miss anything on my desktop. In fact out of the box it streams all my media to my Xbox 360 (or PS3 - out of the box a Mac won't stream anything to even PS3). I have a kickass Photo manager in Picasa that is easily all over iPhoto. Or I can use Windows Live Photo Gallery to do nested tags in my files/photos that I don't yet see OS X supporting natively.

My Vista has only ever had BSOD after the first six months which was traced down to a faulty mobo - a problem very common with Apple hardware as well.

So as you seem to be claiming again and again - OS X's "overall experience" means **** to my needs.

<generalized bull****>It seems all you do is post how OS X is god send all day on your browser. You could've done that using a netbook for far lesser money and much better browser than the awful safari</generalized bull****> :rolleyes:

The UI for starters - then again, you've never used a non-PC platform in your life - so I don't expect you to understand.

You mean the millions of crap freeware and shareware out there for Windows? the over priced garbage from big name vendors like Adobe who drop support for their products the moment that a new operating system is released?

Your justification is as almost as pathetic as Linux users who boast about 10,000 packages in their distro repository.

Quantity does not equal quality.

So there is no crapware for Mac? You're venturing into subjective territory here. And you're ignoring all the junk on Download.com and SourceForge that run on OS X. And there is lots of quality software for Windows. Having lots of bad applications doesn't automatically mean that you have few good applications. You can have a lot of both.

Then regarding your argument about a superior OS that gives you a superior experience. You know, the amount of time I spend dicking with the actual OS is not a whole lot of time at all. I really don't see how double clicking and icon on Mac is so much better than double clicking an icon on Windows or double clicking an icon on Linux. You run applications. All of them need to be updated. You need to do some maintenance every so often as well. You store your data in directories. All your application access and data access is essentially the same and if you don't like it can be easily changed on any OS. Don't like menus? Launchy, Gnome-Do, QuickSilver, et cetera. Don't like explorer on Windows? Total Commander and various other clones. I've used OS X. It's not that much better in regards to the UI. Somethings are nicer but even, say the retarded networking dialogs in Windows, are something I won't be dicking with very often. I just don't see this one and I think this is just a sentiment that carries on from past comparisons. This supposed superiority is marginal at best.

I never made the argument that Apple was superior because of third party software - the original poster claimed that because there is a larger number of vendors writing software it automatically makes Windows superior. My response was that quantity doesn't equal quality.

Read it again because all it says is that Windows has a larger library of software. At no point did I say all the software was superior. I also recommend that you read what I was quoting to understand my statement in context. But I have my doubts so I will explain: He said that only thing Windows had over Mac was price. I pointed out other things it had over it. That was as far as that was supposed to go.

The UI for starters - then again, you've never used a non-PC platform in your life - so I don't expect you to understand.

?? That makes no since, i've use osx everyday and i still think windows is better, stop making bull**** generalizations. that if you dislike osx you've must have never used it

The UI for starters - then again, you've never used a non-PC platform in your life - so I don't expect you to understand.

What part of "I have an iBook" you did not get? I probably work on more platforms in a week than you would in months so let's not get started on that. ;)

Oh and UI...what about it?

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I do not mind these features, and I genuinely think they are useful, but I would rather have the ability to toggle between screen modes, turn the frontlight on/off, or launch my favorite app. I also agree with people on Reddit asking developers to let users adjust the dial sensitivity. I hope this is something DuRoBo can implement with a software update to make the experience more personalized (it is a Smart Dial, after all) and incentivize users to fiddle with the Dial more often. The Dial is a fantastic idea, so please, guys, improve it a little. As for ergonomics, they are mostly fine, but the dial's position may feel a little awkward and way too high. When I use a phone or a phone-sized gadget, I tend to rest one of its corners on my palm for a more secure grip. With the Krono, such a grip is impossible because you cannot reach the dial even with big hands. You have to lower the reader a bit and hold it like a bottle without any extra support for the bottom edge. Such a grip is not necessarily uncomfortable (the Krono is also light enough for it), but it requires a bit of muscle retraining. Sometimes, I do not bother with the dial and hold the Krono like my phone, flipping through pages with volume buttons, as they are perfectly positioned for my right-hand thumb. Interestingly, when testing the Krono, I would often find myself thinking that a roller embedded in the long plastic cylinder on the back of the device would have been a much more comfortable solution. There is a free idea for you, guys. Software The Krono runs Android 15 with a very minimal launcher on top. The home screen presents you with a list of apps, a scrollable list of widgets, and your user profile. Widgets can display time, calendar, or recent books for quick access. You can also add or remove apps from the home screen to keep the most useful stuff around without tapping "Apps." I like this minimalistic approach; it looks clean, easy to understand, and light. I understand that some may find the list of all apps way too clean, but fortunately, DuRoBo lets you switch to traditional icons. The reader also has a bunch of preinstalled apps: Read: The default app for reading. Browser: A Chromium-based browser. Files: A simple file manager. Music: A simple music player. Spark: A voice recorder with transcription support and AI summarization DuRoBo AI: A built-in AI chatbot. Transfer: An app for file transfer over Wi-Fi. If that is not enough, there is the Google Play Store, where you can download all the extra apps you need, alternative readers, podcast apps, chatbots, and more. DuRoBo is not trying to give you an all-in-one device. The standard software experience is quite minimal, which makes it easy to approach and learn. The standard reader supports EPUB, EPUB3, AZW3, MOBI, PDF, TXT, DOC, and DOCX, which is more than enough to let you read most books without third-party software. As for customizing the reading experience, you can select one of five built-in fonts, adjust size and thickness, adjust margins and spacing (only three variants for each), change text alignment and direction, toggle the reading status bar, and switch to dark mode. There is also text-to-speech, which utilizes Android's default TTS tech. While I like the simplistic approach, I cannot help but feel DuRoBo could have made the built-in reader a bit more customizable. However, I am not going to bog down on this, as you can always install any other reader you prefer using the Play Store or by sideloading an APK. Getting books to the Krono is very simple. Given that the device is an Android smartphone without cellular connectivity, you can transfer files via a USB Type-C cable, download them using the built-in browser, share them over Bluetooth, or use cloud storage. My favorite was the built-in Transfer app. It is simple, reliable, and very well-designed. I was surprised by how well-designed the web portal is. It is fast, pretty, and properly categorized. Well done! Once you have your books loaded, you can highlight or underline text, add annotations, bookmark pages, check the table of contents, and ask AI about the selected text. Unfortunately, the Krono has no built-in vocabulary, but again, that is something a third-party reader could fix. Overall, the built-in reader is light and snappy, with just the minimum amount of features for a regular user to enjoy reading books. The Krono has no built-in reading tracking, so stat nerds will have to look for third-party reading apps. However, you can set a daily reading goal, and the reader will notify you when you reach it (for example, one hour). You can also set a reminder to read at a certain time, and when the time comes, the Krono will light up its back LEDs and unlock itself to nudge you. Other than that, the rear LEDs do nothing, not even showing charging progress, which is an unfortunate misopportunity if you ask me. Quirks aside, Krono's Android runs quite snappily and bug-free. Early reviews of the Krono criticized its Android 13-based software quite a lot, but now, the reader runs Android 15, and its software has fixed plenty of initial complaints. I never experienced any issues with built-in apps. AI attempts The DuRoBo Krono comes with a built-in AI chatbot. There is no information on what model powers this thing, but the system says it was "trained by Google." You can launch the bot from the app list or by double-pressing the dial. It works just like any other chatbot, and you can ask it anything by typing or using voice input. The AI saves your chats, and you can rename, export, or delete them. DuRoBo AI requires an active internet connection, and it does not work offline. Its reach and capabilities are also limited. You can only chat in the app and use it in the reader app as a makeshift vocabulary. However, the implementation is kinda awkward. You can only send a selected portion of text to AI without giving it any requests or instructions. I highlighted the word "dumb," and it apologized to me for not being useful. You also cannot ask follow-up questions or send the generated response to a separate chat. The chatbot is also slow, even with fast Wi-Fi, making the overall experience quite frustrating, which makes me again wish for the ability to remap the double press to something else. Spark, the standard voice recording app, also uses AI for note summarization and transcribing. Neither feature works offline, unfortunately. Spark records notes up to 30 minutes using Krono's dual microphones, and you can rename or export notes. Transcription quality is decent, and the speed is alright, but you can find much better solutions in the Google Play Store. What I like about Spark is that transcribed notes are not locked, and you can always type more to elaborate on your ideas, which is handy. Overall, I like that the Krono is not shoving AI down my throat, but to be honest, there is really not that much to shove. AI features here feel raw and need improvements to be more useful. Battery Life Like most E-Ink readers, the Krono has fantastic battery life. Even with a clock as a screensaver, its standby power consumption is incredibly low. And when in use, you can get weeks of reading on a single charge. Without the front light, my unit never sipped more than one or two percent of battery during a one-hour reading session. It was nice to see plenty of battery-related settings. You can limit charging at 80% to protect battery health long-term, check the number of charging cycles, manufacturing/first-time use date, battery health, and the maximum capacity. Additionally, the Krono lets you select what hardware remains enabled when sleeping. This lets you keep Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on (say, if you want to receive notifications, for some reason) and keep audio playing when locked. Turning these features off effectively eliminates any standby battery drain. I left my Krono sitting for 24 hours with a clock screensaver on, and it did not drop a single percent. The pretty big 3,950 mAh battery justifies the device's thickness and ensures you do not have to charge it for long periods. Speaking of charging, it is capped at only 10W, which is a bit disappointing, as getting such a big battery to 100% takes a notably long time in the era of super-fast charging smartphones. DuRoBo Moodi The Moodi is a standalone, optional accessory for your Krono. It is a wireless remote with two customizable buttons that you can use to flip pages, control media, or scroll webpages. The accessory connects via Bluetooth. Despite having a built-in rechargeable battery, it is extremely light. While the Moodi's shape and form factor is not what I would call particularly ergonomic, it is not uncomfortable to hold and use. The Moodi comes with six removable magnetic buttons with various smiley faces. Buttons sit securely, and they have nice-feeling, albeit a little loud, clicks. It is a cute touch that adds a little more fun and character to the device. There is also an accented power button and a single status LED. The latter displays charging status and connection mode. The Moodi supports three modes: Reading: Buttons work as volume buttons, allowing you to flip pages in the built-in reader or other apps that support page turning with volume buttons. Media: Buttons work as skip forward/backward, which is useful when listening to audiobooks, podcasts, or music. Scroll: The third mode lets you scroll pages in the web browser or any other application The Krono properly detects the Moodi and presents you with an on-screen guide when you connect it for the first time (it also displays the battery level). However, you can only change modes by holding both buttons for a few seconds. It is also worth noting that the Moodi works with other devices. I connected it to my iPhone and it let me adjust volume or control media playback. Sadly, the scroll did not work, so you cannot use it to waste time scrolling TikToks. Overall, the Moodi is a cute little accessory, which I can recommend for those who read a lot. It is very useful for remote page flipping when you do not want to burden your hands by holding the Krono all the time. I only wish DuRoBo included a lanyard for the built-in loop. As for the battery life, after using the Moodi for a few days, I only managed to drop several percent of its 90 mAh battery. Despite the small size, it is rated for weeks of use, which is pretty impressive. At $35.99, I cannot say the Moodi is a must-have accessory, but I see the appeal. I prefer using the Krono with its Smart Dial, as I rarely read for more than 40-60 minutes in one sitting. However, if you have a stand and like reading for long periods, the Moodi is the right thing to have. It is a bit more expensive than regular page flippers on Amazon, but it is on par with similar products from Kobo or BOOX. Plus, it has a little more fun to it with removable buttons and better integration into the Krono. Conclusion At the end of the day, DuRoBo Krono is a nice pocket-sized e-reader. Its software focuses on the main things without trying to be everything at once. The smart dial idea is unique and great, and I wish more manufacturers had something similar in their devices. The display is also good, with an even frontlight and "always-on" support. I did not notice any deal-breaking issues with the Krono. However, you can feel that the idea needs some improvements, such as a slightly stiffer dial in a more ergonomic location, perhaps a little more premium materials, and better software customization. I hope the company won't give up on the idea and improve the dial and ergonomics in the second generation. Buy DuRoBo Krono Black - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Krono White - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Moodi - $35.99 on Amazon As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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