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Take that with a grain of salt. If someone asks Microsoft if 7600 is RTM, I highly doubt their response will be "yeah it is, guess it leaked already, lulz". They're gonna deny it until they officially release it to manufacturing.

Uhh...

http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2...rently_not.html

A Microsoft spokesman told me this afternoon that no, a final build has not been declared for Windows 7, and it has not been released to manufacturing.

Formally, all Microsoft is saying is that Windows 7 will RTM sometime this month.

May not be RTM after all.

I can't understand why if it's RTM-ing now/tomorrow why Keys can't be released and it sold/properly available this week. What's the wait for Oct 22nd GA? I know rtm means to manufacturing but it's not gonna change code by oct so why not release it for sale now?

its to make sure OEM get their drivers, software, PCs ready

I call bull****.

Pics/Vids or it never happened.

Anyway, regardless of this - surely pirating this thing as soon as it hits the internetz is pointless because; lets say it is indeed RTM and the final version. Then some catastrophic bug is found - unlikely i know because lets face it; the geeks have been beta testing this since day1 it was officially announced - but still, MS will announce it officially tomorrow, but then between now and Oct more versions will come out that have bug fixes, patches etc; so you may aswell wait till October!

Someone explain to me why pirating this tonight, or whenever the RTM is announced - is a smart idea, ignoring the moral implications of course; given that there 3 months between now and final.

If this is RTM then Microsoft sure as hell was Blind and Deaf when it came to the UI.

Unfinished Icons:

Changed a few here and there, the rest is still Vista.

Unfinished GUI:

Made some tweaks in the taskbar and start menu, the rest is still Vista

Wow! I really was expecting to see new Icons and a new Theme at the least.

I guess will have to wait for Windows 8 to be the show stopper.

I call bull****.

Pics/Vids or it never happened.

Anyway, regardless of this - surely pirating this thing as soon as it hits the internetz is pointless because; lets say it is indeed RTM and the final version. Then some catastrophic bug is found - unlikely i know because lets face it; the geeks have been beta testing this since day1 it was officially announced - but still, MS will announce it officially tomorrow, but then between now and Oct more versions will come out that have bug fixes, patches etc; so you may aswell wait till October!

Someone explain to me why pirating this tonight, or whenever the RTM is announced - is a smart idea, ignoring the moral implications of course; given that there 3 months between now and final.

There are pictures throughout the thread moron. I'm not saying they're real, but at least look through the thread.

If this is RTM then Microsoft sure as hell was Blind and Deaf when it came to the UI.

Unfinished Icons:

Changed a few here and there, the rest is still Vista.

Unfinished GUI:

Made some tweaks in the taskbar and start menu, the rest is still Vista

Wow! I really was expecting to see new Icons and a new Theme at the least.

I guess will have to wait for Windows 8 to be the show stopper.

The theme is already different.

I call bull****.

Pics/Vids or it never happened.

Anyway, regardless of this - surely pirating this thing as soon as it hits the internetz is pointless because; lets say it is indeed RTM and the final version. Then some catastrophic bug is found - unlikely i know because lets face it; the geeks have been beta testing this since day1 it was officially announced - but still, MS will announce it officially tomorrow, but then between now and Oct more versions will come out that have bug fixes, patches etc; so you may aswell wait till October!

Someone explain to me why pirating this tonight, or whenever the RTM is announced - is a smart idea, ignoring the moral implications of course; given that there 3 months between now and final.

Who said anything about pirating. Most of us here are buying an upgrade or have already pre-ordered. The advantage of downloading the leaked RTM is to simply start using it right away rather than sticking with the RC for a couple more months.

But, you are wrong in mentioning they will have more builds between now and the Oct release. Any bugs between now and release will be channeled through Windows Update. The unfortunate reality all software businesses have to deal with these days is hackers almost always find a way to cheat the system when it comes to pirating.

If this is RTM then Microsoft sure as hell was Blind and Deaf when it came to the UI.

Unfinished Icons:

Changed a few here and there, the rest is still Vista.

Unfinished GUI:

Made some tweaks in the taskbar and start menu, the rest is still Vista

Wow! I really was expecting to see new Icons and a new Theme at the least.

I guess will have to wait for Windows 8 to be the show stopper.

Why are you complaining about how a lot of it is "still Vista"? I guess you're unaware of how similar Vista and 7 are, although a lot of the 7 fanboys are in denial about that which makes me laugh.

Anyway, regardless of this - surely pirating this thing as soon as it hits the internetz is pointless because; lets say it is indeed RTM and the final version. Then some catastrophic bug is found - unlikely i know because lets face it; the geeks have been beta testing this since day1 it was officially announced - but still, MS will announce it officially tomorrow, but then between now and Oct more versions will come out that have bug fixes, patches etc; so you may aswell wait till October!

Someone explain to me why pirating this tonight, or whenever the RTM is announced - is a smart idea, ignoring the moral implications of course; given that there 3 months between now and final.

With all due respect, do you even know what RTM means? When it's been signed off as RTM, that's it, it will not see any further changes. The RTM build (whether 7600.16384 is it it not, who knows..) is EXACTLY the same as what you'll be able to buy in October.

oke, I see it's being uploaded to usenet right now (incomplete). The ISO has the following info:

7600.16384.090710-1945_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso

Size: 3.224.717.312

And I can see it was added into it's rar file on the 11th of July. So I suspect it to be a fake.

Why are you complaining about how a lot of it is "still Vista"? I guess you're unaware of how similar Vista and 7 are, although a lot of the 7 fanboys are in denial about that which makes me laugh.

XP to Vista was a night and day difference.

Vista to Windows 7 is Basically a slight Vista Upgrade.

XP to Vista was a night and day difference.

Vista to Windows 7 is Basically a slight Vista Upgrade.

Which is basically what I said. Vista and 7 aren't TOO different, so when the 7 fanboys go on about how great 7 is and how terrible Vista is, I can't help but laugh, or facepalm, depending on who has the most ridiculous comment.

Anyways, I'll hold out hope that 7600 is RTM and that it'll be leaked soon enough.

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