Elliott Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) I'll check it out when I'm back on my Mac Pro again. Currently my LED Cinema Display is in for repairs. :pinch: Ouch. :( Yea, I would see what's going on. I don't have a particularly large library (16.03 GB, 2495 items) but that might only make the difference of a second or two depending on how much larger another person's library is. What surprised me was WMP. I thought it would be faster than iTunes on OS X, considering it has about 3 songs in it. Nope. :blink: Something's probably wrong with my Windows 7 Ultimate install though. Doesn't seem right. Edited September 17, 2009 by Elliott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I hate Apple has closed the iPhone off. I pay ?350 for an iPhone just so Apple can decide what I can and cannot have on the phone via the App Store? The fact that I need to jailbreak the phone to even get any decent customisation is a disgrace. My next phone will indeed be a Android based handset. As for Microsoft, Microsoft do some silly stuff all the time, but to say that OSX blows Windows 7 out of the water is laughable at best, it's all down to opinion, not actual facts. I don't like OSX, some stuff is appealing, but some stuff are not. Windows 7 works fine for me, so did Vista, XP, 2000, 98SE and so on when they were new. OSX is not bulletproof, Viruses can infect the system, Spyware can infect it and so on, I hate OSX users who say **** like "Go with OSX, you won't get any viruses and is completely safe", just **** off you ignorant *****. Linux fanboys are exactly the same. I use Linux in a server environment and it works great, I love open source, what it stands for and what I can run, but when it comes to the Desktop experience, you can really see the difference between something for free and something which isn't. The Gimp has nothing over Photoshop so I'll be happy to spend money on it, though, I do agree that Adobe price Photoshop way to high at times. Linux in a desktop environment is quite easy to break, to configure properly, or sometimes, just doesn't work at all. Maybe in a few more years. Btw, iTunes runs like crap on my system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 OSX is not bulletproof, Viruses can infect the system, Spyware can infect it and so on, I hate OSX users who say **** like "Go with OSX, you won't get any viruses and is completely safe", just **** off you ignorant *****. Could you get the list of "in the wild" OS X viruses? I'd like to see it. And not a piece of malware that takes signifigant user intervention/error to get going, not a hack that requires third part hardware and physical access, but a good old "I opened an email attachment and now I'm spamming all my friends with a virus" virus... I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Goatlord Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I have blu-ray at home so it would be nice to have the option to take my films away with me and watch them. Exactly. As a person with a growing blu-ray collection at home, it would certainly be nice to take them with me on a trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Exactly. As a person with a growing blu-ray collection at home, it would certainly be nice to take them with me on a trip. Easy solution, you can get a 500GB external pocket size HD and record all your blurays on it and then replay them when you are traveling. It sure takes less space than dragging 100 BluRay discs with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Apple have always been a bit different compared to the other tech giants but lately yes they have been a bit of a joke. All the recent rumours of future Apple products have come to nothing. Because they're rumors. I heard a rumor that Steve Jobs is actually an extraterrestrial from Europa, and that this will be the "one more thing" announcement at next week's keynote. I also heard a rumor that Apple has decided to enter the coal mining business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Easy solution, you can get a 500GB external pocket size HD and record all your blurays on it and then replay them when you are traveling.It sure takes less space than dragging 100 BluRay discs with you. How exactly is one supposed to get those Blu-ray discs onto the external hard drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Goatlord Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Easy solution, you can get a 500GB external pocket size HD and record all your blurays on it and then replay them when you are traveling.It sure takes less space than dragging 100 BluRay discs with you. Call me nuts, but I'd rather spend a few bucks more, and get an internal drive, than spend weeks ripping blu-rays to an external drive. I have better things to do with my time, sorry. And who said anything about wanting hundreds of discs with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Call me nuts, but I'd rather spend a few bucks more, and get an internal drive, than spend weeks ripping blu-rays to an external drive. I have better things to do with my time, sorry. And who said anything about wanting hundreds of discs with me? I'd have to agree here, who would want to do that work? It's a pain enough ripping standard DVD with Handbrake and having your machine tied up for 2-3 hours for a decent transcode, I can't imagine how long a BD would take. While I don't see it happening for assorted reasons, there is no reason why Apple can't offer BD is an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Could you get the list of "in the wild" OS X viruses? I'd like to see it. And not a piece of malware that takes signifigant user intervention/error to get going, not a hack that requires third part hardware and physical access, but a good old "I opened an email attachment and now I'm spamming all my friends with a virus" virus... I'll wait. There was a trojan that was shipped with a cracked version of Photoshop that was able to install itself silently, and form a botnet, something Antivirus software would have picked up. And FYI most botnets aren't built from email attatchments, they are built from things like infected cracks, keygens, and so on distributed through P2P networks and torrents, which means that it is evident that OSX is not immune if someone decides to target it. In fact, almost all hackers say that OSX is the easiest OS to target, the reason why it is always exploited first in things like Pwn 2 Own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 There was a trojan that was shipped with a cracked version of Photoshop that was able to install itself silently, and form a botnet, something Antivirus software would have picked up.And FYI most botnets aren't built from email attatchments, they are built from things like infected cracks, keygens, and so on distributed through P2P networks and torrents, which means that it is evident that OSX is not immune if someone decides to target it. In fact, almost all hackers say that OSX is the easiest OS to target, the reason why it is always exploited first in things like Pwn 2 Own Right, a trojan buried in stolen software that requires elevated privileges to install. Like I said, still waiting on my list of "in the wild" viruses that don't require user intervention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritas310 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Right, a trojan buried in stolen software that requires elevated privileges to install. Like I said, still waiting on my list of "in the wild" viruses that don't require user intervention. As a Mac user myself (and iPhone owner), you annoy me sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 As a Mac user myself (and iPhone owner), you annoy me sir. Well you delight me to no end :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Right, a trojan buried in stolen software that requires elevated privileges to install. Like I said, still waiting on my list of "in the wild" viruses that don't require user intervention. Why the hell are you still waiting for a "list" how ignorant are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritas310 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Well you delight me to no end :rolleyes: :woot: Good! *Totally senses the sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 There was a trojan that was shipped with a cracked version of Photoshop that was able to install itself silently, and form a botnet, something Antivirus software would have picked up.And FYI most botnets aren't built from email attatchments, they are built from things like infected cracks, keygens, and so on distributed through P2P networks and torrents, which means that it is evident that OSX is not immune if someone decides to target it. In fact, almost all hackers say that OSX is the easiest OS to target, the reason why it is always exploited first in things like Pwn 2 Own Exploits are always found, but there's no guarantee AV will protect you from them if they're brand new. In most of these cases, a firewall is much better than AV software at blocking malware that tries to phone home or compromise a system. Just so happens that OS X comes with a firewall (like any good modern OS). Handy, right? :D The Safari exploit was bad, yes, but it's like any piece of software. For instance: http://www.itworld.com/security/78261/micr...protect-windows. No AV will protect you from that, but a firewall will. I don't pretend to think any software is totally secure, and I think Windows Vista and Windows 7 have done an excellent job with UAC (something OS X has had since 10.0 because it's just standard Unix procedure) to make sure that things don't just automatically get elevated like they were in XP. In fact, I would argue that OS X probably is easier to find security holes for because so much of its code is open source. However, that also means we usually get patches very, very quickly (and we can often patch something ourselves if we're impatient). Double-edged sword, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Why the hell are you still waiting for a "list" how ignorant are you? Well I can find pages of list from AV vendors with Windows exploits? How ignorant are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Well I can find pages of list from AV vendors with Windows exploits? How ignorant are you? Lol yeah, I searched for a "list" of Mac viruses / trojans / malware like 6 months ago and it resulted in a categoric failure. I even tried on the same sites where they had a "list" of Windows viruses / trojans / malware and they didn't have much information to be honest... it was vague and blurry in my mind :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Ouch. :( Yea, I would see what's going on. I don't have a particularly large library (16.03 GB, 2495 items) but that might only make the difference of a second or two depending on how much larger another person's library is. What surprised me was WMP. I thought it would be faster than iTunes on OS X, considering it has about 3 songs in it. Nope. :blink: Something's probably wrong with my Windows 7 Ultimate install though. Doesn't seem right. Well I got my LED Cinema Display back and you were absolutely right. iTunes v9.0.1 opens within one bounce on my Mac Pro on a cold start (directly after log-in after a startup) using Mac OS X Snow Leopard v10.6.1. So iTunes basically takes once second to launch and show the main window. I stand corrected. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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