[Insider Info] Xbox 360 Super Elite confirmed!


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I find that hard to beleive pal. I work in game (UKs version of gamestop/eb games) and we have sold them since day 1.

Agreed, i find it hard to believe that the US hasn't sold them in stores drom the start. We have and so have Canada.

It's better value to get the mw2 set, forza 3 is cheaper, call of duty games hold there price longer and a custom console has better resell value. I should think forza will be ?30 asap

Yeah but for people like me...

1. I don't care about the price of the games because you can argue that they'll all come down in price at some point - it depends on how patient you are;

2. The custom console may look good at first, but after a while *IMO* you just think it belongs in the dev's studio to show off rather than a living/game room - a plain, sleek black one can be put anywhere; and

3. I don't plan on selling the console anyway so holding its value doesn't matter!

With this argument in mind, I'm gonna get the Forza 3 one (which comes out sooner too) - when I can eventually find somewhere allowing pre-ordering. My current console is on the way out again too so I'm hoping it can manage just under a month:(( Stupid thing.

On another note, anyone have any ideas on the deal with transferring data from your current HDD to the new one? I have a cable from when I moved from my original 20GB to my current 120GB drive but does anyone know if this method is gonna work or if MS will bundle a new transfer kit like they did for the elite launch?

To all those interested - the Forza 3 Super Elite Bundle is starting to appear for pre-order at a few places:

Amazon UK ?249.99

Play.com ?249.99

ShopTo ?239.99

Personally I was hoping GAME would have it for pre-order by now as I have ?15 of points saved up that I was planning on using for it (alongside any voucher I can find) but they've not got it :(t :( It'll depend on what price they have it for now too (if they even do it at all) seeing as once again, ShopTo are doing a brilliant price - I'm not wasting my points bringing it down to just below what ShopTo are selling it for!

An update on my last post - GAME are now stocking it - at ?249.99

GAME - Forza 3 Super Elite Console

They've messed the description up though because it says it's the Super Elite bundle but only has a 120gb drive... Also - it looks the picture of the box has been released because that's now being used by the sites.

Anyone got any info on if it's the same Jasper revision? I wouldn't be surprised if somehow MS used this as a way to push out another hardware revision on us. What ever happened to news about the next one, where the GPU and CPU will be on the same die finally?

  • 4 weeks later...

YAY! My I've got my super elite :) Only problem is the transfer kit I've got from when I bought my 120GB drive doesn't recognise the 250GB drive so I'm unable to transfer my data at the mo :(

On another note, I've checked the power and it's 12.1V so that's a jasper right from what I understand?

YAY! My I've got my super elite :) Only problem is the transfer kit I've got from when I bought my 120GB drive doesn't recognise the 250GB drive so I'm unable to transfer my data at the mo :(

On another note, I've checked the power and it's 12.1V so that's a jasper right from what I understand?

Is glad i didnt buy a transfer kit for COD off ebay.

An update on my last post...

I've now successfully transferred my data from my 120GB to my 250GB drive. You have to use the new transfer kit - you'll know it from the diagram shown on the CD sleeve - the 120GB version has 20GB and 120GB written above each of the drives, whereas on the new transfer kit (which my brother got free from MS when he phoned them about my kit not working with his 60GB drive) doesn't have any labels above the drives.

  • 2 weeks later...

Time to see what MS will do when these LE's run out. I have to wonder if they'll offer the bigger 250GB HDD on it's own then or if this is something they'll just keep around for future LE versions. Only time will tell.

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