Keldyn Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Never been around many smokers, have you? If you have, I feel very sorry for you that you can't even begin to realize what it's like for them. You say they are inconciderate because they smoke most times in areas that they aren't supposed to. Know why? BECAUSE THEY ARE ADDICTED. What a supprise! They don't even think most of the time, it's just a sudden urge, so they automatically light up. It's like someone with ahsma(sp). They automatically reach for their inhaler every time they have trouble breathing. The EXACT SAME DEAL WITH SMOKERS. I have been around smokers a lot and I have witnessed their behavior. A friend of mine lit up in school classroom (we were not enrolled, just visiting) without even thinking twice about it. I said "Hey man, you can't smoke in here", and he replied "Oh ****, sorry. I wasn't even thinking".Smokers most often don't mean to "smoke" in places they aren't supposed to, but when that craving hits they almost forget about anything else other then lighting up. lmao and yet, despite all that you can't see why some of us here are against smoking? Your reasoning is laughable. Now you are just being annoying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotix Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Smoking is a terrible, terrible habit, both for the smoker and those that have to deal with litter, the stench, and the smoke going into their bodies. I do not support banning the sale of the product as that would create a tremendous black market for the tens of millions of addicts. Banning public smoking indoors is perfectly fine to me, as well as anti-smoking education. Likewise, if marijuana sale was ever legalized here in the U.S. I support the same ban on all public smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vip Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Everyone says if you live in an enviorment where smoking is an everday thing, you're guaranteed to start also, that's a lie ... my parents smoked, ALL of my friends growin up smoked ... my fiances parents smoked .. i work in a place where everyone smokes ... and i have never even tryed a cig ... they smell so horrid ... I was so glad when i got my own house, no more smelly clothes or smoking at all in/around my house ... it's great ... i've never even dated anyone that smokes... kissing them is nasty, and they cost too much to support their nasty habit :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldyn Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I was so glad when i got my own house, no more smelly clothes or smoking at all in/around my house ... it's great ... i've never even dated anyone that smokes... kissing them is nasty, and they cost too much to support their nasty habit :) I agree. I always imagined it would be like kissing an ashtray :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vip Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 yeah, plus it's like coffee (yuck also) stains your teeth ... looks horrible :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyre Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I have no problem with trying to prevent people from starting smoking. That is not my issue, as so many of you have overlooked. I simply think it's BS to attack people who are already smokers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persianpsycho Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Cigs are nasty, smoker spend ridiculous amounts of money just to feed their bodies with cancer. I see the harm in ciggarettes, but i have yet to see the harm in marijuana. Like all things in life, you cant overdo it. I have yet to hear about weed causing cancer, or anyone dying from an OD. The only harm i see from it is a little memory loss, which is why students should hold themselves back from doing it until they have a break from school or if its summer. If you do it like once in a while, i honestly dont see the harm in it. Oh and mental addictions are pretty easy to quit if its not a daily habit. Ciggarettes are useless, you get nothing out of it. :edit: and i dont see why alchohol is legal, while marijuana isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyre Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 What's the ratio of years of studies of marijuana to the years of studies of cigarettes? Yeah. And a new report just came out that says marijuana is worse then cigarettes, I'll try to find you nice folks a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persianpsycho Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 smoking a joint involves 4x more tar or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted June 10, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2003 Nearly everything in this world "makes it worse", yes, even the invisible things that float around in the air. What are you going to do about those? NOTHING. Because you can't. So get over smoking. Sure it kills you and makes you suffer, but then again, what doesn't? smoking IS something we can change though, you're missing the point. we may not be able to change everything in this world, but we can change some things. and what we can, i think we should change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyre Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 But why focus on smoking? What about all the other things? Mmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted June 10, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2003 me personally, i'm against smoking, drugs, alcohol, and pre-marital sex. all of them have their drawbacks and consequences. btw, the background in your transparent png is showing as blue in ie6, not grey ;) just noticed your sig now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyre Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 But it still gets the point across, if you see anything other then a totally transparent PNG, your browser sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioboy Posted June 10, 2003 Author Share Posted June 10, 2003 actually, it's been proven over and over that filters don't do ****watching my uncle die of lung cancer that spread to his bones and his blood was heartbreaking, don't give me that **** that smoking is harmless Valkyre, it doesn't hurry along the death process, it creates reasons for it to occur. I'm curious, where in any of my posts did I say smoking was harmless? You're implying we shouldn't worry about smoking because we'll die soon anyway. Guess what, some of us want to live awhile. Some of us also want our relatives to be around for awhile. Smoking accelerates death. Say who cares all you want, the fact still remains. Look at the big list of changes from after stopping smoking I posted at the beginning of this thread. You can't argue that smoking does bad stuff to your body that WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF YOU DIDN'T START SMOKING IN THE FIRST PLACE... if someone has a choice between dying of old age at age 75 or dying of lung cancer at age 45, what do you think most people would rather do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 i know it's stupid to start smoking, but once you've started, it takes more than an article like that to stop you. haha that's for ppl with weak minds and lack of taste! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleni Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 haha that's for ppl with weak minds and lack of taste! :p i know good tastes, smoke tastes so good, thats why im smoking. lol trully. i want to stop smoking, but i cant handle it, im already addicted to it. i have been smoking for 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 when you get the need for smoking just eat an ice-cream or something that you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleni Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 i cant, i dont have ice cream on my freezer everyday. and i dont like eat, coz its gonna make me grow fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aem4162 Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 you have a choice...DIE at a young age of cancer or maybe in the fire that starts because you fell asleep with a lit cig OR gain some weight that you can take off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioboy Posted June 10, 2003 Author Share Posted June 10, 2003 i cant, i dont have ice cream on my freezer everyday. and i dont like eat, coz its gonna make me grow fat. do what my dad did. buy a big box of swizzle sticks (coffee stirrers)... when you get the urge just chew on one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaRSightxc2 Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 do what my dad did. buy a big box of swizzle sticks (coffee stirrers)... when you get the urge just chew on one Yeah, I know a guy and he did the same thing......apparently it worked for him. (Apart from it was coctail sticks, but close enough, lol). Stopping Smoking = Mind Over Matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyre Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 actually, it's been proven over and over that filters don't do ****watching my uncle die of lung cancer that spread to his bones and his blood was heartbreaking, don't give me that **** that smoking is harmless Valkyre, it doesn't hurry along the death process, it creates reasons for it to occur. I'm curious, where in any of my posts did I say smoking was harmless? You're implying we shouldn't worry about smoking because we'll die soon anyway. Guess what, some of us want to live awhile. Some of us also want our relatives to be around for awhile. Smoking accelerates death. Say who cares all you want, the fact still remains. Look at the big list of changes from after stopping smoking I posted at the beginning of this thread. You can't argue that smoking does bad stuff to your body that WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF YOU DIDN'T START SMOKING IN THE FIRST PLACE... if someone has a choice between dying of old age at age 75 or dying of lung cancer at age 45, what do you think most people would rather do? Regardless, I never said it was harmless. So stop babbling on like I did. I'm also curious, why is it that half of the people I talk with who want to ban smoking are all for legalizing marijuana? w00t to idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravager Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 actually, it's been proven over and over that filters don't do ****watching my uncle die of lung cancer that spread to his bones and his blood was heartbreaking, don't give me that **** that smoking is harmless Valkyre, it doesn't hurry along the death process, it creates reasons for it to occur. I'm curious, where in any of my posts did I say smoking was harmless? You're implying we shouldn't worry about smoking because we'll die soon anyway. Guess what, some of us want to live awhile. Some of us also want our relatives to be around for awhile. Smoking accelerates death. Say who cares all you want, the fact still remains. Look at the big list of changes from after stopping smoking I posted at the beginning of this thread. You can't argue that smoking does bad stuff to your body that WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF YOU DIDN'T START SMOKING IN THE FIRST PLACE... if someone has a choice between dying of old age at age 75 or dying of lung cancer at age 45, what do you think most people would rather do? Regardless, I never said it was harmless. So stop babbling on like I did. I'm also curious, why is it that half of the people I talk with who want to ban smoking are all for legalizing marijuana? w00t to idiocy. Those people you talked to are idiots. Plain and simple, don't try to defend that. They're the wrong ones to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamon Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 Valkyre , your making stupid points , you could say "why worry about anything when theres another 3 million things to worry about?" This is a thread about smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bourricot Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 best argument: 4 quid a packet. Also, smoking IS far worse than any other drugs, it kills more people than any other drug. Now you can't stop if you don't want to, it's entirely personal, a question of willpower (or you go bankrupt - that's another efficient way), what is the point in trying to convince the smokers here that they'll die of cancer, they'll just think "won't happen to me" in themselves, and anyway breaking an addiction is hard. I'm not saying smokers are bad cos they can't stop though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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