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Grand Master

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Still really up in the air about this game, watching that latest trailer, to me it seems like they do not have a single new idea on the table. Soldier, Medic with revive, Engineer who builds items, disguising oneself as the enemy, all things done so, so many times prior to this game. And objective based online gameplay has been done and attempted a whole lot already as well, and in a lot of cases when it is a new IP doing so, it has not been all that successful. So not sure about this title the more I think about it. :blink:

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Still really up in the air about this game, watching that latest trailer, to me it seems like they do not have a single new idea on the table. Soldier, Medic with revive, Engineer who builds items, disguising oneself as the enemy, all things done so, so many times prior to this game. And objective based online gameplay has been done and attempted a whole lot already as well, and in a lot of cases when it is a new IP doing so, it has not been all that successful. So not sure about this title the more I think about it :blink:
Sorry, what did you expect them to come up with? They pretty much invented team based objective game play.
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Sorry, what did you expect them to come up with? They pretty much invented team based objective game play.

I don't know what I expect them to come up with, maybe a new class that has not been done before? Is it only really every going to be medic, soldier and engineer?

I am quite aware of what they have done in the past as I played the hell out of Enemy Territory, it is almost all I played exclusively when it came out 8 years ago. And that is my point, 8 years and nothing all that different except some parkour moves. I know that is the case with all FPS's, but I guess that is my other point, it is a pretty stale genre. I have the one series I really like with BF, and unless these other games are really doing something new and unique, which I am not necessarily seeing yet with this game, they are not really high on my list of games to check out.

I will still check this game out, and I very well may even wind up loving it, but it really is becoming a very stale genre with no real advancement in at the very least new ideas, at least IMO. and FTR, it is still my favorite genre and what I enjoy playing the most, and it very well probably always will be, but I am really at a point I am left wondering is this it with the genre itself?

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I don't know what I expect them to come up with, maybe a new class that has not been done before? Is it only really every going to be medic, soldier and engineer?

I am quite aware of what they have done in the past as I played the hell out of Enemy Territory, it is almost all I played exclusively when it came out 8 years ago. And that is my point, 8 years and nothing all that different except some parkour moves. I know that is the case with all FPS's, but I guess that is my other point, it is a pretty stale genre. I have the one series I really like with BF, and unless these other games are really doing something new and unique, which I am not necessarily seeing yet with this game, they are not really high on my list of games to check out.

I will still check this game out, and I very well may even wind up loving it, but it really is becoming a very stale genre with no real advancement in at the very least new ideas, at least IMO. and FTR, it is still my favorite genre and what I enjoy playing the most, and it very well probably always will be, but I am really at a point I am left wondering is this it with the genre itself?

I agree with you DirtyLarry. But unless and until they don't launch new Engines i don't think there will be any new advancements in this genre even if they come up with ideas.The developers are hitting a technological stalemate. UE4 might bring something new & frankly speaking, after seeing those Battlefield 3 videos, all other FPS games looks last-gen - for kids.

What game are you onto nowadays sir?

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I agree with you DirtyLarry. But unless and until they don't launch new Engines i don't think there will be any new advancements in this genre even if they come up with ideas.The developers are hitting a technological stalemate. UE4 might bring something new & frankly speaking, after seeing those Battlefield 3 videos, all other FPS games looks last-gen - for kids.

What game are you onto nowadays sir?

First off indeed, BF3 is my most anticipated game of the year, by far, no competition. I have said several times though over the years on these forums BF is pretty much my personal favorite shooter ever, so I am a bit biased.

Honestly I do not play much MP, probably because of what I was saying, but when I do I still play Bad Company 2. I mainly have just been checking out the SP campaign of games. Specifically most recently Bulletstorm and Killzone. Both of which are definitely somewhat guilty of being not to innovative, especially the latter with Killzone, truly no innovation in it at all, but I did still enjoy aspects of it. Bullstorm at least implements the whole scoring system, which although although that has been done before to a certain degree, it has never been the entire basis for a game, so I think they did a pretty good job. That and I also really enjoyed Painkiller. Despite what I was saying above, I also do feel that sometimes mindless fun is in order and I do not always feel like games need to be super innovative to be good.

Besides those 2 games, I mainly am playing Pixel Junk Shooter 2 on the PS3. Old school gameplay all the way, but somehow it still feels new. Kind of what I was alluding to, I do not mind games based on previous ideas, but there are indeed ways to build upon those ideas. I fully realize it is not an easy thing to do, and I fully realize that it is also damn near impossible to take risks these days with video game development costing so damn much and so much being at stake, but one can dream I suppose. Not sure what I expect, but like I said perhaps a game that dares to create all new classes would be a nice start. Maybe it cannot be done, perhaps the classes we all know and love are the only classes that make any sense in a game, but I cannot help but think there is some room for improvement in that area.

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What I am supposed to do with 'graphics' if the netcode of BF3 will suck and if it has tons of lags? When BC2 was released it was horrible.. Lag, Server Crashes, Browser list issues, Stats issue, etc. Took them over 6+ months to fix those issues.. and even still many servers lag when they reach 32 players.

I don't understand how BF3 will handle 64 slots(players) ..I hope they will rework on there netcode because even at present ET's anti lag is much better then BC2 one IMO.

ET is still being played after 8 years. Why?

Maps: 100+

Modding: Good amount of mod's offering different game play.

Server Files: Players can host there own servers, rather then entering in Ranked and Non Ranked BS.

I just hope, they will release SDK for modding community so they can add new maps and such.

Looking forward for Brink.

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What I am supposed to do with 'graphics' if the netcode of BF3 will suck and if it has tons of lags? When BC2 was released it was horrible.. Lag, Server Crashes, Browser list issues, Stats issue, etc. Took them over 6+ months to fix those issues.. and even still many servers lag when they reach 32 players.

I don't understand how BF3 will handle 64 slots(players) ..I hope they will rework on there netcode because even at present ET's anti lag is much better then BC2 one IMO.

ET is still being played after 8 years. Why?

Maps: 100+

Modding: Good amount of mod's offering different game play.

Server Files: Players can host there own servers, rather then entering in Ranked and Non Ranked BS.

I just hope, they will release SDK for modding community so they can add new maps and such.

Looking forward for Brink.

BC2 is a far more advanced game than ET though...Can't really be directly compared like that.

And I haven't had too many issues with bc2 lag, its really only certain servers. On a good server the game is totally smooth for me.

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Still really up in the air about this game, watching that latest trailer, to me it seems like they do not have a single new idea on the table. Soldier, Medic with revive, Engineer who builds items, disguising oneself as the enemy, all things done so, so many times prior to this game. And objective based online gameplay has been done and attempted a whole lot already as well, and in a lot of cases when it is a new IP doing so, it has not been all that successful. So not sure about this title the more I think about it. :blink:

well, SMART is something new in mp fps, the parkour elements...

and they have tried a lot of new things imo. unique design, great character and weapon customization options, almost no one shot kills (only a sniper headshot on a light body type kills with 1 shot), weakened grenades with cooldown to eliminate spam, medic doesn't revive but throws you a syringe so you can revive yourself when it's safe etc :laugh:

and probably many more that we don't yet know about

I honestly don't see how anyone can say this is unoriginal, while there are a bunch of Call Of Honour: Bad Modern Warfare Companies released every year.

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Be still my heart...yet another FPS.

There's plenty of other styles of game coming out ... just because there's lots of FPS games doesn't mean more shouldn't be made because I for one love them and I know millions of others do. I buy them all and play through them all. And I will be buying this.

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Singh400

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I don't know what I expect them to come up with, maybe a new class that has not been done before? Is it only really every going to be medic, soldier and engineer?
I don?t think there is anything fundamentally wrong with 4 core classes; Medic, Solider, Engineer and Recon.
I am quite aware of what they have done in the past as I played the hell out of Enemy Territory, it is almost all I played exclusively when it came out 8 years ago. And that is my point, 8 years and nothing very different except some parkour moves. I know that is the case with all FPS's, but I guess that is my other point, it is a pretty stale genre. I have the one series I really like with BF, and unless these other games are really doing something new and unique, which I am not necessarily seeing yet with this game, they are not really high on my list of games to check out.

I will still check this game out, and I very well may even wind up loving it, but it really is becoming a very stale genre with no real advancement in at the very least new ideas, at least IMO. and FTR, it is still my favourite genre and what I enjoy playing the most, and it very well probably always will be, but I am really at a point I am left wondering is this it with the genre itself?

I think you are understanding how SMART will change gameplay. Don?t get me wrong me and my friends have massive reservations about Brink as well. We aren?t sure how SMART is going to effect our fast paced style of gaming. It might ruin the game entirely or change the face of it all together.
First off indeed, BF3 is my most anticipated game of the year, by far, no competition. I have said several times though over the years on these forums BF is pretty much my personal favourite shooter ever, so I am a bit biased.
All we ever talk about on TeamSpeak is either Brink or BF3. We all agree that we psyched for both. But at the moment, I?d say we are more excited for BF3. Most of us are still playing BC2, and we all love the fact that we can take a building, blow a wall up and make it into make shift cover. Arguably this changes MP more than SMART could in my opinion. I?ll probably end up getting both. But having never played any other BF game than BC2 (and my friends tell me BC2 isn?t a true BF game). I?m unsure what to expect!
Honestly, I do not play much MP, probably because of what I was saying, but when I do, I still play Bad Company 2. I mainly have just been checking out the SP campaign of games. Specifically most recently Bulletstorm and Killzone. Both of which are definitely somewhat guilty of being not to innovative, especially the latter with Killzone, truly no innovation in it at all, but I did still enjoy aspects of it. Bulletstorm at least implements the whole scoring system, which although that has been done before to a certain degree, it has never been the entire basis for a game, so I think they did a pretty good job. That and I also really enjoyed Painkiller. Despite what I was saying above, I also do feel that sometimes-mindless fun is in order and I do not always feel like games need to be super innovative to be good.
There is no doubt for me, SP is dead for me. I?ve got loads of stuff to play though Bioshock 2, Bulletstorm, Dead Space 1 & 2, Assassin?s Creed 2, Assassin?s Creed: Brotherhood, Black Ops, Medal of Honour but I just can?t be moviated. Why? Because SP is nowhere near as fun as MP. The last SP I really properly enjoyed was Mafia #1 and that speaks volumes to me.
Well SMART is something new in MP FPS?s, the parkour elements...

And they have tried a lot of new things IMO. unique design, great character and weapon customization options, almost no one shot kills (only a sniper headshot on a light body type kills with 1 shot), weakened grenades with cool down to eliminate spam, medic doesn't revive but throws you a syringe so you can revive yourself when it's safe etc :laugh:

and probably many more that we don't yet know about

I honestly don't see how anyone can say this is unoriginal, while there are a bunch of Call Of Honour: Bad Modern Warfare Companies released every year.

I?m honestly not bothered about the customization, ie face paint. I?m more interested regarding gameplay. And how SMART will impact that. From the very little footage released so far, I can?t decide. It looks a lot slower paced when compared to ET:QW (in my head anyway). And that doesn?t feel great to me. But then again BC2 felt tons slower when I came from ET:QW so maybe it?s just one of those things.

Things I do like about Brink is there is no one hit kills (that goes for melee as well). So bye bye snipers. Grenades have been reduced to do less damage, thus removing nade spam (and my magicnades :(). One thing I do wished they would implement. Is to remove prone. I hate prone. Prone does nothing to help or promote gameplay.

I do find the Medic thing weird. Why not just have the person who needs a revive have the feature to ?tap out? so the medic knows not to revive you.

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Grand Master

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It's great that they're releasing it a week early. :)

New trailer:

Also, here's what you get if you pre-order it on Steam:

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  • Exclusive weapon: the ?Hockler? Machine-Pistol
  • Exclusive ?GreenEye? Combat Optical Scope
  • Exclusive Security ?Sloani? Combat Mask
  • Unique Dogtag body tattoo

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Singh400

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System Specifications confirmed:

Minimum Specs:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or equivalent

RAM: 2GB

GFX: nVidia 8800GS / ATi Radeon HD 2900 Pro or equivalent

OS: Windows XP with SP3 / Windows Vista / Windows 7

HDD: 8GB free

Recommended Specs:

CPU: Intel Quad Core i5

RAM: 3GB

GFX: nVidia GeForce GTX 460 / ATi Radeon HD 5850

OS: Windows XP with SP3 / Windows Vista / Windows 7

HDD: 8GB free

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trag3dy

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It's great that they're releasing it a week early. :)

New trailer:

Also, here's what you get if you pre-order it on Steam:

http://www.brinkthegame.com/pre-order/

There's a list of all the stores that have pre order bonuses. I'm not sure where I'll order from if I do. I'm liking the Gamestop and Best Buy ones.

I still can't get over the weapon bobble though. :laugh:

Edit: Here's a link with better pictures:

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2010/08/17/brink-pre-order-bonuses-announced/

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Sikh

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Wow, this game actually has my attention, its like TF2 + a modern FPS like COD or BF put together.

Im definitely considering it now. Sad part is, all these games (portal 2, gears 3 beta(atm), this, etc) are all placeholders till BF3 comes out lol. So im kind of being careful about dropping $50 for maybe 2 months of fun.

I still have Homefront and Crysis 2 too play. Havent put in enough hours to be happy with my purchase yet, but love both games.

OH THE CHOICES!

@Singh: Thats not you, i dont see the 400 after the name :p

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