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do you get a free Subscription with no ads?

Hell no - lol.. I did my time (as a staff member) and subbed but i would again or i could just let the ads show. It benefits them eitherway. I don't get any perks from being a sub as i get perks as it is now :).

Hell no - lol.. I did my time (as a staff member) and subbed but i would again or i could just let the ads show. It benefits them eitherway. I don't get any perks from being a sub as i get perks as it is now :).

So does neowin get paid for showing the Ads, or people clicking on them?

Ads bring in revenue on views too, people think you have to click em... you don't.

I actually didn't know that. That's cool, though, and a very good thing. I think part of the issue is that, even among people who'd like to support a site, internet ads are no longer considered trustworthy - I really don't like to click on ads because so many of them fire away a nigh-endless string of pop-up windows and malware installation attempts if I do (I don't know if any of the ads shown here ever do that; I suspect not, but the prevailing distrust of clicking on ad banners still pervades most users, I think).

I'm glad to hear that viewing the ads helps - the ads aren't bothersome and I'd love to see Neowin keep going. I don't post much, but I've been a steady reader for 7+ years :)

Man, after reading the majority of the responses from people bitching, I've never would've thought there would be so many unappreciative people in this community.

To have something as so petty as a couple ads bring forth these types of responses is embarrassing. To those who said it as well as the community itself. Should be ashamed of yourselves, really.

If you must block them, by all means do so in silence. To knock something you really have no right to, is wrong. Even after all the fuss, these guys still went on and took away the facial graphic. They didn't have to! These guys do these types of things for us all the time and yet we turn on them for something so simple as a couple ads? Unappreciative, indeed.

I'm not going to sit here and debate on whom I'm calling unappreciative. Simply, if you feel the shoe fits, wear it.

So much progress could've been made today on the many other things they yet have to implement onto the site. I'm ashamed to see that sidetracked by something as petty and quite frankly, stupid as this. Very considerate on our part, don't you think? Pushing and pushing to the point where owners and devs have barked back. I don't condone name-calling, but I sure as hell understand why things were said as they were.

This thread is full of ugly. On all ends. I won't participate in it any longer. May we all get what is deserved.

The attitude of some of the staff in this thread is about as unprofessional as it gets :/ telling members to grow up, stop "being ######", ETC... it's kind of worrying, as members we would probably be warned for behaving like that.

While i haven't read all 20sum pages to agree with the first part i will say regardless of that, that that the 2nd part is how it goes pretty much anywhere. Something that would not be allowed for the users rarely applies to the people running the place.

Don't see what the problem is, it made me sign up, I like the community and think a bit of money going their way couldn't hurt. Don't need reasons really do we, its just putting money into "the internet" which we've all expected to be 100% free from day 1. A community needs to be looked after with so many different people, and I'd say the staff do a pretty good job on the whole - Neowin is still here, and the recent upgrade makes Neowin look like its had a lot more time and effort put into it than most sites.

It's their site, they can put that message up there if they like. It's not like they aren't offering a way to get rid of ads, and it costs very little for what you get back. I would rather Neowin got real money from members, than automatic money from ad clicks/views. Although money is money, I consider this different, as Neowin has provided me with something to do on the internet, and I genuinely wouldn't be "me" without Neowin :)

Rob has already confirmed we'll be making some improvements so that normal non-adblockers will not see the message no matter what their connection is. What's your problem here exactly?

Maybe that the condescending attitude of the "staff", before it was confirmed that it was an issue on your end, that the only people who see it block the ads. If any regular member had called even one person here a dick, let alone a good portion of the user base, or accused them of being a dick, the post would have already been modded and the user warned. Since the problem with the graphics not showing properly was on your side, I think those that were insulted by staff should be apologized to. I know it's not going to happen though.

It seems like it takes a lot of energy to fight to continue to be, well, a dick about this. I forgot I had a browser still set to block ads when I saw the graphic, so it was a good reminder. But you're saying that not only should they not tell you what you already know, you'll take further steps to block the block notice (which aren't ads now, so you can't scream "privacy issue!") just to assert your authority over your browser and this website, like some chest-thumping primate who just protected his mate.

You have a very crap attitude towards others.

There's ways we could implement to make the adverts unblockable if we really wanted to. There's also methods of making the "you blocked ads" message be there no matter what.

:rolleyes:

It's not accusing you off anything stop being paranoid.

No, but the "staff" are. Personally, I couldn't care less, but I can see why someone would question it. And for the record, I don't block ads on here either.

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