Spyder Veteran Posted June 23, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 23, 2003 ****ing compared to a dual 3.06 XEON!!!!!!Jesus ****ing christ!!!!!!!!! There's your 3k right there! yea but i dont need that kind of power for my home pc, so i wouldn't buy dual xeons in the first place. i have this need to cost ratio that i go by. damn this is too pricey.. i couldn't (and wouldn't) even buy the PC equivalent. too over the top for me :( ah man.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 good deal maybe, can I afford it, I think not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 AUGUST!??!? NOOOO!!!! Man...no mac for over a month :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 maybe over the top, but it will last forever probably. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted June 23, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 23, 2003 Performance? SPEC tests and real-world applications will be looked at. Starting with SPEC tests. A 2 GHz G5, a 3 GHz Pentium 4 (800 MHz bus) and a 3.06 GHz Xeon. GCC 3.3, an open-source compiler, is being used. Apple hired VeriTest, an independent test house, to do the tests. Two tests: SPECint2000 and SPECfp2000. The P4 did 889 on integer, the Xeon did 836, and the G5 did 800. For floating point, 693 for the P4, 646 for the Xeon, and 840 for the G5. So the G5 is 10% slower on integer, 20% faster on floating point. "I think we can safely say that we've basically caught up with single processor system." [ 11:34 ] Now, dual processor systems. A single P4 is being used, since you can't have a double P4. Dual Xeon and Dual G5. Integer is 10.3 for single P4, 16.7 for dual Xeon, and 17.2 for dual G5. Floating point: 8.1 for single P4, 11.1 for dual Xeon, and 15.7 for dual G5. Much applause. The G5 is three percent faster on integer and 41 percent faster on floating point. [ 11:36 ] That's SPEC tests. How about real-world apps? Well, time for a "dual duel" with a dual Xeon and dual G5. To start off with ? you guessed it, Adobe. Greg Gilley, VP Engineering of Adobe, is introduced. A performance update for Photoshop will be released around the time the G5 towers ship. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 How many PM's are apple GONNA sell between now and Aug? lol ... who'd buy a G4 now? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyablue Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 but 2000 just for the 1.6, that is comparable to the top of the line p4, and its 64 bit so cost ratio that :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I know, august, that is strange, I really thought they would be out today with all the store closing. Maybe it was just for the iSight. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 I think it's damn worth it! :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I have a feeling a lot of people will still buy the G4, because of the price, and maybe they don't need something that top of the line, i wodner if the prices for them will drop? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted June 23, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 23, 2003 "I've been dying to do this for so long," Schiller says. There's a dual G5 up against a Dell dual 3.06 GHz Xeon. Lame-ass Dell desktop background on the Dell PC, running Windows XP. The poster art for Finding Nemo will be used in Photoshop. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: vv Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted June 23, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 23, 2003 would you be able to put a radeon in the 1.6 G5? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 LMFAO @ the Finding Nemo PS TEST!!! HAHAH, Mac was 2.1 times faster than Dual Xeon!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 It would be worth it if I could afford it. by the time I am out of school and have a job nice enough to afford something like this, I am sure the g6 will be out. lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 big update just for the camera Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macster Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 The dual G5 is really expensive but then its so good that I think we can consider it Server Grade so lets not complain about the 3000 bucks The 1.8ghz is good enuf for me already!!!! I want one!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss1 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Image linky of G5 case: http://homepage.mac.com/owlboy/wwdc56.jpg ss1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 LMFAO @ the Finding Nemo PS TEST!!! HAHAH, Mac was 2.1 times faster than Dual Xeon!! lol sweet ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Aug. is back-to-school time of year. Next to christmas it's one of the primary times to sell computers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 1.6 GHz is fine for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 YAY Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzla Veteran Posted June 23, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 23, 2003 Yeah, I think I'll plump for the 1.8 G5 with 80GB SATA HD, 512mb DDR400 and a Geforce FX. We'll see what the real workd tests show. I hope he shows more then just the Dual 2GHz. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted June 23, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 23, 2003 Image linky of G5 case:http://homepage.mac.com/owlboy/wwdc56.jpg ss1 thats not the final look for it, is it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLapointe Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 This is bad. The low end G4 PowerMac that was on their website this morning was 1499.99 and they say this chip and such is cheaper but the price went up 500 bucks. The computer this morning had about the same specs and most parts are the same price if not cheaper so how the hell would a cheaper IBM chip put this computer that much more. I'm not trying to start a flame but Apple is becoming more like Microsoft everyday. Where are we now. 1. New PowerMacs are more expensive that the last. 2. When you bought Mac OS X you had to pay 130.00 for Jaguar. 3. Now we have to pay another 130.00 for Panther. How is this any differnt. Please don't take this as a flame but lets be realistic here for one moment. I haven't seen PCs or Macs for that matter come out with a newer and better system for more money. It's almost always been less and at the worst the same. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/87488-official-wwdc-thread/page/10/#findComment-980331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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