Windows Live Essentials 'beta' out now!

[Bubbabyte]

anyone able to get flickr or youtube or twitter as services thru messenger? or is it just facebook and myspace for the beta?

[Junior Jatay]

someone can upload a offline installer?

maybe the files are in this folder

c:\program files\common files\windows live\.cache

[Izlude]

i just got it. it's working really well. out of the beta box, it wasn't the least bit confusion. although i wonder if there is a minimal mode to go back to the traditional messenger list?

[Guest mattburles]

looking for offline installer as well...

[Knightwolf20024]

i just got it. it's working really well. out of the beta box, it wasn't the least bit confusion. although i wonder if there is a minimal mode to go back to the traditional messenger list?

theres a grey rectangle thats what your looking for next to inbox.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

i just got it. it's working really well. out of the beta box, it wasn't the least bit confusion. although i wonder if there is a minimal mode to go back to the traditional messenger list?

click the icon in the upper right that says 'compact view' when you hover over it

[Shayla]

With many problems and bugs being reported by Neowin members here,i think i will wait for final build.

[Bubbabyte]

is anyone else able to get flickr, youtube or twitter working as services thru messenger yet, or is it just facebook and myspace in the beta?

[Brandon H Supervisor]

it's mostly the facebook integration not working quite right in messenger and a bunch of other people complaining about no longer being able to use a nickname in messenger, everything else is great though

[timster]

ok, i'm going to give this a chance because I tested WLM 8 (remember that horrible green?) and WLM9 which in comparison to the early 8 builds was actually good.

i've changed 2011 so that only messenger contacts are shown. if i wanna go to facebook, i will open the internet browser

now for a question, i can see what my contact are listening to. do they still see what i am listening to?

[Brandon H Supervisor]

is anyone else able to get flickr, youtube or twitter working as services thru messenger yet, or is it just facebook and myspace in the beta?

it's just facebook and myspace atm

ok, i'm going to give this a chance. i've changed mine so that only messenger contact are shown.

now for a question, i can see what my contact are listening to. do they still see what i am listening to?

if you have it set that way yes

[timster]

it's just facebook and myspace atm

if you have it set that way yes

i must have been blind. it's hard to tell because in WLM2009, you could see the music track on your own screen hiow others would see it. now i cant see it

[tanjiajun_34]

Btw, why now the old Wave 4 Leaked 15.2.2583.119 did not ask me to update anymore?....

[Guest mattburles]

there is no offline installer than?

[Lazure]

Man there's just so many things MS took away from us that totally ruined MSN. Here's hoping they keep allowing the current WLM to be used for a long time, cuz I will not go without my customizable display name, taglines, themes, or one-way camming which I do a LOT. Especially when I want to manycam something on my desktop to show someone how to do something.

I also do not want my full name plastered all over my MSN list. I did not sign up to MSN with that in mind to begin with!

[ienhz]

Good god this version of messenger is awful. I like the idea of the social page but it seems like they forgot what this program was originally designed for.

I really hope they change how the program functions in the final version or I will be moving to another IM client.

[Mazhar]

Good god this version of messenger is awful. I like the idea of the social page but it seems like they forgot what this program was originally designed for.

I really hope they change how the program functions in the final version or I will be moving to another IM client.

You can easily switch to Compact Mode, I mean compact view.

[Izlude]

i noticed there are badges now. that's a neat idea if you want to advertise to your pals... especially if you have a t-shirt e-card website ahem ahem ;) in the final version, do you suppose we'll get to make our own badges? or is this a blue mountain thing only? :(

[Omen1393]

Am I the one not disappointed by this beta? It Mail works great, Messenger works just as well as before and has facebook integration. Photo Gallery's features are great and the ribbon works really well, Sync should have more online storage but it still does a decent job. The biggest disappointed imo was Live Movie Maker since they only added 4 new transitions.

[Argi]

I love the changes - no complaints here. Only issue is updating my status within messenger doesn't propagate to Facebook correctly.

[Mazhar]

Am I the one not disappointed by this beta? It Mail works great, Messenger works just as well as before and has facebook integration. Photo Gallery's features are great and the ribbon works really well, Sync should have more online storage but it still does a decent job. The biggest disappointed imo was Live Movie Maker since they only added 4 new transitions.

Off course not. The beta is good and Sync only has 2 GB which is enough; if you have been reading around, you will know that Micorosft realized that no one is actually using the 25 GB storage, so really 2 GB is just fine for your files. However, Device to Device sync is of unlimited storage.

As far as other applications are concerned, messenger could have been a lot more better, I mean 2 years of time and we just got integration to other services and that's all? I mean Messenger is the only application that I care and use the most.

I don't use WL Mail, as I use Outlook.

I find Sync a good application and very easy to use. It is very simplified.

Overall, I would rate the Wave 4 beta, 7 out of 10.

[Ayepecks]

I guess I'm the only one to find these to be a bit "meh."

I don't care for the ribbon. It has a place in Office because there are so many features, but in these all it actually does is complicate things even more. I liked Windows Live Essentials when they were nice and simple.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

why isn't there a way to report bugs like there was with office 2010 beta

i found quite the bug in live mail, it's when you try to create a rule to automatically move certain things to a folder, none of the folders show and it gives an error when you try to create a new one from that spot

try it out yourself, you'll see what i mean

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

would be awesome to allow Facebook chat through MSN. Right now when I click a Facebook contact, it goes to a 'send IM page' instead.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

would be awesome to allow Facebook chat through MSN. Right now when I click a Facebook contact, it goes to a 'send IM page' instead.

don't you mean send PM?