Engadget posts in depth preview of Windows Phone 7

[Cereal Bawks]

If it isn't full Silverlight 4, it sure explains why some things are so wonky (i.e. don't work as supposed). Because projects in both VS2010 and Blend link against proper Silverlight 4.

[George P Global Moderator]

If it isn't full Silverlight 4, it sure explains why some things are so wonky (i.e. don't work as supposed). Because projects in both VS2010 and Blend link against proper Silverlight 4.

Ya, I worded my post wrong, back at MiX it was said that the phone uses mostly SL3 with some SL4 things backported. I think this makes sense if you look at the timeframe of when they started work on WP7 they had SL3 to work with. Then when SL4 started up they picked what they could and brought those in etc. Now that SL4 is done and out the door I'm with you and others in thinking that it shouldn't take MS long to update WP7 to full SL4 and not this hybrid they have now.

I don't know how complex the move would be or how dependant (if at all) everything is between each other, those factors will let us know how long it'd take for the update.

[Bengal34]

Ya, I worded my post wrong, back at MiX it was said that the phone uses mostly SL3 with some SL4 things backported. I think this makes sense if you look at the timeframe of when they started work on WP7 they had SL3 to work with. Then when SL4 started up they picked what they could and brought those in etc. Now that SL4 is done and out the door I'm with you and others in thinking that it shouldn't take MS long to update WP7 to full SL4 and not this hybrid they have now.

I don't know how complex the move would be or how dependant (if at all) everything is between each other, those factors will let us know how long it'd take for the update.

I think that I heard it was supposed to be in the first major update. They've said they want everything to be running sl4 as soon as possible.

[Petvas]

Actually, you're both kind of right. The version of Silverlight in WP7 is based on a mix of Silverlight 3 and 4. As Omen said, Microsoft are working to upgrade that to the full version of Silverlight 4.

Don't worry, Engadget were impressed. Petvas just likes to make it seem like everyone hates WP7.

How did you come to this conclusion? Probably you haven't read all my posts in this thread. My personal opinion is that WP7 is a promising platform but totally immature and that is why I am not going to get a WP7 device. When the OS matures I will reexamine my opinion.

Most reviewers liked WP7 but still found it incomplete (as I also did).. Nobody wants to hate us to hate the OS (apart from Infoworld)

[revanmj]

No, it's not as good as the desktop versions of those browsers. But the mobile versions of those browsers aren't as good as their desktop counterparts. So I'd say that with the exception of HTML5, Internet Explorer is just as good as Webkit.

No, it's not as good as WebKit ...

[y_notm]

No, it's not as good as WebKit ...

Since it appears neowin is serving up a different version of the site between the two browsers, i'd say thats not a fair comparison.

[PreKe]

So I'd say that with the exception of HTML5, Internet Explorer is just as good as Webkit.

I LOL'd.

[Ayepecks]

I LOL'd.

Great job trolling, as you are known for. Good to see you know how to selectively quote and miss the entire argument.

@ revanmj: See y_notm's post. That's like comparing Facebook's "touch" page to their "mobile" page -- they're not the same, thus it's not a comparison of ability, it's a comparison of separate pages on separate browsers.

[Richard Hammond]

Since it appears neowin is serving up a different version of the site between the two browsers, i'd say thats not a fair comparison.

Its not a different version it just doesnt support some of the CSS that other browsers do like rounded edges, the same happens with IE8 on this site also you lose a lot of CSS added graphical touches its not a whole new version just for IE.