Neyht Member Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm still not sure why people get excited over service packs. Windows 7 SP1 in particular is nothing but the currently available patches all rolled together and nothing more. If your copy of Windows 7 is up to date you technically already have SP1. So when SP1 gets released, I'll go download an exe that will take a couple minutes to inspect my (fully patched) computer setup, create a restore point, download necessary files (which it will find) , and take maybe twenty to thirty minutes... playing solitaire in the background. Link to post Share on other sites
tablet_user Share Posted January 5, 2011 So when SP1 gets released, I'll go download an exe that will take a couple minutes to inspect my (fully patched) computer setup, create a restore point, download necessary files, and take maybe twenty to thirty minutes installing...what exactly will it be doing then? it will be removing licenses, sending you your money back and making windows 7 free. I dont know if you read the article yesterday but Microsoft has to release windows for free to compete with Google Chrome OS. Link to post Share on other sites
hdood Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm still not sure why people get excited over service packs. Windows 7 SP1 in particular is nothing but the currently available patches all rolled together and nothing more. If your copy of Windows 7 is up to date you technically already have SP1. Unless you went to the Microsoft site and manually downloaded all 624 updates, then you do not "technically already have SP1." Most updates to Windows are not put on Windows Update. Only the most important updates that apply to the majority of people are on WU. Link to post Share on other sites
guru Share Posted January 5, 2011 among other things sp1 will bring AVX support Link to post Share on other sites
Jason S. Global Moderator Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm still not sure why people get excited over service packs. Windows 7 SP1 in particular is nothing but the currently available patches all rolled together and nothing more. If your copy of Windows 7 is up to date you technically already have SP1. youre only half right. yes, SP1 is a cumulative roll-up, but it DOES support some new features. most of these new features, though, are for Server 2008 R2. you can read this white paper about the SP1 changes here Link to post Share on other sites
Quillz Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think people have been expecting too much of service packs ever since WinXP SP2, which, in the opinion of some, should have marketed as an all-new version of Windows. That's probably the only time in history that a service pack actually added some very significant new features. Link to post Share on other sites
lalalawawawa Share Posted January 6, 2011 Unless you went to the Microsoft site and manually downloaded all 624 updates, then you do not "technically already have SP1." Most updates to Windows are not put on Windows Update. Only the most important updates that apply to the majority of people are on WU. Important or not doesn't matter. Updates are pushed on case by case basis. If the update is OS specific, all will get it. If its system specific, only the systems requiring it will get it. ;) Link to post Share on other sites
Growled Member Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm looking forward to it. In the past, every SP has made the OS a little bit better. I expect no less of this one. Link to post Share on other sites
nekrosoft13 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm still not sure why people get excited over service packs. Windows 7 SP1 in particular is nothing but the currently available patches all rolled together and nothing more. If your copy of Windows 7 is up to date you technically already have SP1. not even close, updates released on windows updates only cover about 10% of things fixed. windows updates only addresses critical security fixes. if you want to actually know how much stuff you actually are missing, check here http://thehotfixshar...ads&showcat=136 Important or not doesn't matter. Updates are pushed on case by case basis. If the update is OS specific, all will get it. If its system specific, only the systems requiring it will get it. ;) wrong Link to post Share on other sites
lalalawawawa Share Posted January 6, 2011 not even close, updates released on windows updates only cover about 10% of things fixed. windows updates only addresses critical security fixes. if you want to actually know how much stuff you actually are missing, check here http://thehotfixshar...ads&showcat=136 wrong Thanks for the correction. :) (I wasn't counting the usual performance hotfixes and stuff, but if we go with what I said about the importance of the updates, I probably should count them too.) :) Link to post Share on other sites
hdood Share Posted January 6, 2011 Important or not doesn't matter. Updates are pushed on case by case basis. If the update is OS specific, all will get it. If its system specific, only the systems requiring it will get it. ;) No. Link to post Share on other sites
kiddingguy Share Posted January 6, 2011 No info on CES just yet. WTH happens ;) - hahahaha Link to post Share on other sites
+Ryster Subscriber² Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm still not sure why people get excited over service packs. Windows 7 SP1 in particular is nothing but the currently available patches all rolled together and nothing more. If your copy of Windows 7 is up to date you technically already have SP1. Not true, get your facts straight. Not only does it contain all the available patches, but also all the unavailable ones too... the ones you have to apply for individually that are not available via Windows Update... such as the Group Policy Wallpaper Bug patch which our company requires. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mattburles Share Posted January 9, 2011 definately not happening at CES 2011.. I think it will show up at Mix 11' because that is in the March timeframe when they said it would be released :) Link to post Share on other sites
kiddingguy Share Posted January 9, 2011 ...so maybe IE9 final and Windows 7 SP1 at MIX11... nice! ;) Link to post Share on other sites
jakem1 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think people have been expecting too much of service packs ever since WinXP SP2, which, in the opinion of some, should have marketed as an all-new version of Windows. That's probably the only time in history that a service pack actually added some very significant new features. Vista SP1 was pretty important for a lot of people and really put an end to the problems that the initial version of that OS faced. Link to post Share on other sites
torrentthief Share Posted January 9, 2011 seeing as though they are compiling rtm candidates i think that march is way off the mark, rtm candidates is when they are happy with it and are checking for tiny problems with it, i expect it to be released sometime in January i'd guess. IE9 looks quite a way off, not even an RC out yet, alot of web developers and companies won't even test their sites until an RC is out so i bet alot more bugs will be found then. Can't see that being released until march. Link to post Share on other sites
MS Bob 10 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Not only is sp1 RTM there are already two updates for it KB2482122 KB2489740 In the hotfixes *.bf you will find the final build number of sp1 Can you kindly tell how you found the 2 updates when their KB articles aren't up yet? :) Link to post Share on other sites
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Share Posted January 10, 2011 I hear there is now a new build 7601.17125.110106-1630. Link to post Share on other sites
kiddingguy Share Posted January 10, 2011 I hear there is now a new build 7601.17125.110106-1630. ...and where'd you hear that? Link to post Share on other sites
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Share Posted January 11, 2011 ...and where'd you hear that? mydigitallife. Link to post Share on other sites
DeadEndAccount Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm still not sure why people get excited over service packs. Windows 7 SP1 in particular is nothing but the currently available patches all rolled together and nothing more. If your copy of Windows 7 is up to date you technically already have SP1. Which is incorrect; there are hotfixes which are made available for large enterprise customers but aren't urgent enough to be deployed to the general population so instead they get rolled up with the service packs. Service packs are more than just rolling up a years worth of patches. Link to post Share on other sites
franzon Share Posted January 11, 2011 No news about Vista SP3 ? :cry: Link to post Share on other sites
torrentthief Share Posted January 11, 2011 lol, vista sp3 won't be out until after win 7 sp1, i'd bet my house on it. It is not a priority as windows 7 has no service pack out so new pc's sold that don't have windows updates applied are insecure and contains alot of bugs. Its possible there might never be a SP3. There is no XP SP4 and yet there's 500mb+ of updates available. Link to post Share on other sites
Soulsiphon Share Posted January 11, 2011 Wait! What? omg, a msft mvp said that w7 sp1 is rtm? lolomgwtf!!! bbiab! Link to post Share on other sites
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