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Chasethebase

erm , yeah ie9 is faster coz of dropping support for xp and not coz of some chakra (or dead code elimination :shiftyninja: ) , so yeah xp is the one to blame :)

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Some new stuff regrading the branches :D

Which build has this rolled out to? Or has it not rolled out yet, Aurora's current build is not updated with this UI yet, and it looks more refined than current builds.

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bogas04

Which build has this rolled out to? Or has it not rolled out yet, Aurora's current build is not updated with this UI yet, and it looks more refined than current builds.

it is JUST A MOCKUP , and tracking bug for it is : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649480

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Does this mean there is two sets of nightlies now, one set for Firefox 5.0 and one set for Firefox 6.0?

I'm getting a bit confused :(

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bogas04

Does this mean there is two sets of nightlies now, one set for Firefox 5.0 and one set for Firefox 6.0?

I'm getting a bit confused :(

No . Nightly now = Firefox 6.0a1pre(dated 13 april) , Aurora = Firefox 5.0 , but yeah for time being we have 4.2(dated 12 april) in trunk folder

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No . Nightly now = Firefox 6.0a1pre(dated 13 april) , Aurora = Firefox 5.0 , but yeah for time being we have 4.2(dated 12 april) in trunk folder

Okay, thanks for clearing that up!

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Chasethebase

Okay, thanks for clearing that up!

So think of it as Nightly = Chrome Dev, Aurora = Chrome Beta, Stable = Stable.

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First official 6.0 nightlies are out, onwards to 7.0!

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So think of it as Nightly = Chrome Dev, Aurora = Chrome Beta, Stable = Stable.

Yup, adopting that mindset now. I'll probably try running the nightlies now that they've revamped the icon/graphics. Bit wary of extensions breaking though, but we'll see - Chrome doesn't really have this problem on dev.

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vasa1

So think of it as Nightly = Chrome Dev, Aurora = Chrome Beta, Stable = Stable.

Won't it be more like:

Nightly = Canary

Aurora = Dev

Beta = Beta ?

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bogas04

Won't it be more like:

Nightly = Canary

Aurora = Dev

Beta = Beta ?

yes

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Chasethebase

Won't it be more like:

Nightly = Canary

Aurora = Dev

Beta = Beta ?

Looking at the roadmap, yeah, that seems much more sensible. (Y)

Also liking how you can swap channels.

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ViZioN

Has anyone managed to enable extension compatibility for the new 6.0a1 Nightly? I tried adding extensions.CheckCompatibility6.0a1 == false and extensions.disableCheckCompatibility == true but it seems to have no effect.

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kilara1988

It works with extensions.CheckCompatibility6.0a.

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ViZioN

It works with extensions.CheckCompatibility6.0a.

Thanks but tried this command (even making the first 'c' lower-case) but my addons are still disabled. Tried adding a extensions.disableCheckCompatibility == true also seems to have no effect. Are you sure it was that command you added and not some other tool that disables compatibility checking? What am I missing?

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ViperAFK

You need a period before the number, like:

extensions.CheckCompatibility.6.0a1

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ViZioN

You need a period before the number, like:

extensions.CheckCompatibility.6.0a1

Thanks :) This did the trick.

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kilara1988

Oh.My bad.Didn't see i forgot the period before the version number.

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Detection

Ive just had my 2nd update in about 2 hours - says 6.0a1

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PGHammer

Nice to see that once again Firefox is becoming primarily a Windows browser with Mac and Linux users supported by accident rather than actually deliberately designing for the platform. Promises of OpenGL accelerated layers in Firefox 5.0 and low and behold they've failed to deliver - why aren't I surprised.

Blame the platforms (OS X 10.6+ and X.org) - not the browser. Mesa has not even caught up to *Windows* in terms of OpenGL support, and even OS X 10.7 DP2 is even further back.

Also, both OS X and Linux distributions have continually refused to allow the same UI as Firefox 4 uses on Windows today. (Firefox 4's UI on Linux is identical to that of Firefox 3; what's up with that?)

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PGHammer

True, but x64 browsers ATM, aren't ready for primetime yet. They're kinda like Office x64, nice to have, but not really needed by 99.9% of users.

That said, I hope IE10 x64 has the new JS engine IE9 x86 has.

If you have multiple mailboxes (say, GMail/GoogleMail and that of your ISP), Outlook 2010 x64 is a better choice than the same mail application in x32. The problem with Office 2010 x64 (like IE x64) is the lack of add-ons and plug-ins; most of the x64 plug-ins and add-ons that do exist were Microsoft-written.

I switched up with 2010 for exactly that reason - I have GMail and my ISP mail acount; both of which get a crapton of e-mail. Outlook 2010 x32 would bog down, if not flat-out fall down, while 2010 x64 runs like a champ, even using GMail's IMAP defaults.

Where x64 plug-ins and add-ons exist, Office, like IE (or even Firefox) is a lot more stable in x64 (stability FTW).

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Gaffney

Wait so is it better to be on 6.0 nightly or 5.0 aurora ?

If 5.0 is still in the works and 6.0 at the same time, then will changes from 5.0 be added into the 6.0 channel and more ? Or will the changes made in 5.0 not be added to 6.0 until 5.0 is released or near release ?

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bogas04

Wait so is it better to be on 6.0 nightly or 5.0 aurora ?

If 5.0 is still in the works and 6.0 at the same time, then will changes from 5.0 be added into the 6.0 channel and more ? Or will the changes made in 5.0 not be added to 6.0 until 5.0 is released or near release ?

nightly = all latest patches will land there , not tested , can crash etc

aurora = selected patches from above ones would land here , i.e. changes in aurora will be in nightly , but not vice-versa , lil QA done on it , more stable than nightly

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nub

Is there a way to see the changes in nightly builds?

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bogas04

Is there a way to see the changes in nightly builds?

track the The Official Win32 XXXX thread here

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PNWDweller

Here is my main issue with the 4.x release they just did and I hope it is much better in the new releases.

There had been quite a few incompatible extensions and add-ons that would not run in 4.0 for quite some time. (Firebug, Febe, Greasemonkey for example), but were later fixed after 4.0 went gold. I sincerely hope that during the big version rush into 7 for later this year, they don't abandon all of the extensions and then cause more update issues.

I am a big fan of bleeding edge software, but it was sort of hard during the betas because of the extensions. To me also, it seems like they are pushing the numbers too freely. Why bother with a 5.0 when you are going to go to 6.0 and then 7.0? Seems pointless to me. I personally would rather go with a version 4.6 with all the fantastic speed and features that version 7 will eventually have.

EDIT: Okay now, I really don't know if this is a placebo effect, but for kicks, I downloaded the Nightly and it seems to be loading pages a lot faster than my FF4, but then again, it did dump 99% of my extensions so that might have been part of it. :)

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