Leonick Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Haha, this is going to be a disaster and help pirates gain legal copies which in turn makes the pirated version legal as a personal backup of the iTunes Match'd version. How is iTunes going to know the difference between a purchased CD and the FLAC+CUE burned CD-R in this case? I'd be more impressed if they'd offer Apple Lossless from the iTunes Store instead of the AAC 256kbps crap. a disaster because it makes pirated copies legal copies? there is an annual fee you know and they have deals with all the major record labels, what you think is a disaster is the whole idea! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomZ Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Be curious to see if Spotify change their pricing now as well Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am_I_Evil Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Likely works the same way as the other iTunes services; works only for music that is purchased from iTunes Store. that's not correct Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuerg87yerg879e0rg9erugjer Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 if i have some jailbroken apps on my ipod touch , and i icloud it , would i have it on every device? o.O good question Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Also, hoping you can manage your music in the iPod / Music app. If they are really pushing this iCloud / PC free thing, then its a must that you are able to delete music aswell as buy / download it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted June 6, 2011 Veteran Share Posted June 6, 2011 no phone announcement, and apples stock is already down 4 and a quarter.... just like always investors get all giddy about apple before the conference and leave disapointed todays high of 347 was right before the conference and todays low is right after.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Wondering if the itunes cloud match will auto convert the lower DRM'd version i have that never upgraded to the DRMless upgraded version ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Be curious to see if Spotify change their pricing now as well Why would it need to? From what I can see, iCloud doesn't enable streaming. While it may not matter to some people, the idea about streaming (aka not having to store music on your device) is a huge benefit spotify has. Especially when we have low capacity models of Apple Products (16GB seems like nothing on my iphone lol). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEsquire Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Haha, this is going to be a disaster and help pirates gain legal copies which in turn makes the pirated version legal as a personal backup of the iTunes Match'd version. How is iTunes going to know the difference between a purchased CD and the FLAC+CUE burned CD-R in this case? I'd be more impressed if they'd offer Apple Lossless from the iTunes Store instead of the AAC 256kbps crap. Now the music labels and Apple get to make $25 a year from hosting your pirated music whereas before, they got nothing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 a disaster because it makes pirated copies legal copies? there is an annual fee you know and they have deals with all the major record labels, what you think is a disaster is the whole idea! $25 a year for let's say 5,000 pirated albums made 'legal' is a bit cheap, isn't it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://www.apple.com/icloud Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 $25 a year for let's say 5,000 pirated albums made 'legal' is a bit cheap, isn't it? Better than what they got before, which was nothing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Likely works the same way as the other iTunes services; works only for music that is purchased from iTunes Store. yeah but the jobs said that it'll match the music your "ripped" yourself and give you the itunes version. how does it know where/how i got the music? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEsquire Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 $25 a year for let's say 5,000 pirated albums made 'legal' is a bit cheap, isn't it? How does it make it "legal"? All it does is let you enjoy the benefits of iCloud with your pirated music. It doesn't suddenly make it legal if the FBI busts down your door or if you get sued by the RIAA. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 $25 a year for let's say 5,000 pirated albums made 'legal' is a bit cheap, isn't it? It's cheap, but it's $24.99 a year more than they were getting from Limewire et all before :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 no phone announcement, and apples stock is already down 4 and a quarter.... just like always investors get all giddy about apple before the conference and leave disapointed They will more then likely announce that at the iphone/iOS convention, not WWDC. Unless thats where they normally do it. Not to familiar of the diffrence between them all and just think of them as " Apple Shows " Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeEsquire Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 yeah but the jobs said that it'll match the music your "ripped" yourself and give you the itunes version. how does it know where/how i got the music? They don't care. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acnpt Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 $25 a year for let's say 5,000 pirated albums made 'legal' is a bit cheap, isn't it? Better than nothing I guess, and if the record labels think they are losing money then they'll put a stop to it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 From the Apple website: iTunes 10.3 available now. 'Unmatched content' will be uploaded to the cloud. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 They don't care. may be tempting then... though i have thousands upon thousands of songs. What will it do with the old versions of the song, delete them? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 iCloud beta is US only. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am_I_Evil Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://www.apple.com/icloud sooooooo....there's a link for the iTunes 10.3 beta but when i click it i got to a download page for 10.2.2....wtf? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 sooooooo....there's a link for the iTunes 10.3 beta but when i click it i got to a download page for 10.2.2....wtf? Yeah. Spank those dev monkeys. Sure they're working hard to get things updated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 No new macbook air makes me sad :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1002584-official-apple-wwdc-2011-keynote/page/12/#findComment-594047148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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