Kondrath Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I don't care that it's so big, I just want it to display EVERYONE who is online (22 people online but shows 11? -__-...) and for it to bring back my old lists of friends. I don't want to hide from them, I just want them to be displayed and prioritized on the sidebar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browno Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 http://userscripts.o...pts/show/107159 Greasemonkey extension, works perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma Veteran Posted July 19, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 19, 2011 I wish there was a way to disable chat altogether--I don't use it and am annoyed by that thing popping up all the time. Even if I minimise it back down to the bottom, it eventually comes up again and I have to keep doing it. Annoying as! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondrath Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 snip Yeah, I've been using it as of a few hours ago. It's a step up definitely, but I wish I could get my friend lists prioritized on the sidebar. Oh well, I'll be using this until they change it or until everyone switches to G+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 This is the one time I want them to change it back. I like the new chat but I hate the sidebar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Did anyone's fb chat go back to the old style again? Mine did today. :/ Edit: And its gone. :( Back to the new version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerFan Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 All of this back and forth, old chat new chat crap makes me think old Markie Z. is just effing w/ us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Fixed? It's not a bug or problem Facebook didn't desire. 'Fix' is not the correct word to use. It really is. It's broken. You fix things that are broken. I've basically just stopped going on chat because I can't be arsed with this sidebar anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted July 23, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 23, 2011 It really is. It's broken. You fix things that are broken. I've basically just stopped going on chat because I can't be arsed with this sidebar anymore. It isn't broken. Facebook intended it to be that way; thus it isn't broken. It could be improved, but there's nothing to fix because nothing is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevoidalone Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 http://gizmodo.com/5823757/how-to-fix-facebooks-new-broken-chat-system-yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 ^Or just install the userscript posted on the previous page, so there is no need to click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted July 23, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 23, 2011 http://gizmodo.com/5...chat-system-yes I'd just like to point out the following to anyone who read that link: My previous posts still stand. This is not broken. Facebook intended it to be that way, so therefore it can never reasonably be described as broken. Something that is broken is something that doesn't function how the makers of the product intended. That Gizmodo journalist has lost credibility with me after claiming it is "broken" and needs to be "fixed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xilo Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I'd just like to point out the following to anyone who read that link: My previous posts still stand. This is not broken. Facebook intended it to be that way, so therefore it can never reasonably be described as broken. Something that is broken is something that doesn't function how the makers of the product intended. That Gizmodo journalist has lost credibility with me after claiming it is "broken" and needs to be "fixed." Just because it's not broken (technically or functionally) to the creators doesn't mean that it isn't broken functionally for the users. There have been a very large amount of instances across the board where the creators think something is perfectly fine but "broken" functionally for the people that are outside the team/company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 ^What do you mean by "broken"? If it's because it's displaying people you really don't interact with frequently (and hides people you always talk to), then I think we can say that it's not perfect and may be "broken". Now, if it still because it doesn't show online users on the chat bar, then no, it's not broken. It's what they have in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoligy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 The new chat in facebook is horrible it took up the whole side of the screen was auto logging me into chat and everything after 2 days of it i used adblock to remove chat completely so now everytime i re-install i'll block with adblock and soon as google+ opens its doors have a look at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.bin Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I'm thinking of boycotting chat altogether, it's a steaming pile of rodent sh*t. I have about 90 people online, and in Mozilla I can't scroll through the chat list to actually chat to contacts past "S". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It isn't broken. Facebook intended it to be that way; thus it isn't broken. It could be improved, but there's nothing to fix because nothing is broken. No, it's broken! Why be so facetious? I don't give a **** about your linguistic semantics. The sidebar is broken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky560 Veteran Posted July 26, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 26, 2011 I don't use facebookchat anymore apart from through adium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted July 26, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 26, 2011 No, it's broken! Why be so facetious? I don't give a **** about your linguistic semantics. The sidebar is broken! It's nothing about linguistic semantics; it's about the fact it is not broken. The sidebar is not broken because it serves its intended job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpGreen Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 The only other things that are on that side are either white space or adverts, so why is it a problem? It's a problem for me because for the most part I don't use the chat functions, and much prefer the white space to a big useless (to me) sidebar that pushes the rest of the page over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondrath Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It's nothing about linguistic semantics; it's about the fact it is not broken. The sidebar is not broken because it serves its intended job! it's intended job is useless. It's like if I had a perfectly working car, and then the dealer switched it out in the middle of the night with one that can't go past 35mph unless you manually move the speedometer to the desired speed. It isn't technically broken because that's what was intended, but it's still a piece of trash vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted July 26, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 26, 2011 It's a problem for me because for the most part I don't use the chat functions, and much prefer the white space to a big useless (to me) sidebar that pushes the rest of the page over. You raise a fair point if you prefer white space to a sidebar you don't wish to use. It doesn't push the rest of the content over though; it just uses that white space. I don't know whether you're aware, but Facebook very recently updated this new update to allow users to hide the sidebar for good. If you click on the settings icon at the bottom of the Chat sidebar, you're now able to hide the sidebar :) it's intended job is useless. It's like if I had a perfectly working car, and then the dealer switched it out in the middle of the night with one that can't go past 35mph unless you manually move the speedometer to the desired speed. It isn't technically broken because that's what was intended, but it's still a piece of trash vehicle. I'm not saying the new updates are better than the previous functionality at all, but I can't stand when people suggest software should be "fixed" even though it functions how the developer intended, so I had to take issue with his post :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xilo Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I'm not saying the new updates are better than the previous functionality at all, but I can't stand when people suggest software should be "fixed" even though it functions how the developer intended, so I had to take issue with his post :) Again, just because it isn't "broken" for the developers doesn't mean it isn't "broken" for the people that actually use it. There is often a huge disjoint between developers and users. This is why many companies spend a fortune in market research and then other companies just say **** the users and do whatever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted July 26, 2011 Veteran Share Posted July 26, 2011 Again, just because it isn't "broken" for the developers doesn't mean it isn't "broken" for the people that actually use it. There is often a huge disjoint between developers and users. This is why many companies spend a fortune in market research and then other companies just say **** the users and do whatever they want. It's not broken for anyone. If something works as the creators or developers intended, it cannot reasonably be deemed broken by anyone. Something could even be unusable, but if it was intended to be like that, it would not be broken. As it happens, this new Chat interface isn't unusable, but it does not work in the way many people desire. That doesn't mean it is broken for those users as it works in the way the developer intended; it simply means many users dislike how it functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpGreen Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 You raise a fair point if you prefer white space to a sidebar you don't wish to use. It doesn't push the rest of the content over though; it just uses that white space. I don't know whether you're aware, but Facebook very recently updated this new update to allow users to hide the sidebar for good. If you click on the settings icon at the bottom of the Chat sidebar, you're now able to hide the sidebar :) I'm not saying the new updates are better than the previous functionality at all, but I can't stand when people suggest software should be "fixed" even though it functions how the developer intended, so I had to take issue with his post :) Yep..I saw that. And very promptly did so. Also on my 17" monitor in chrome it actually does shove the page over. EDIT: It even does so on my 20", though not quite as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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