nsfw Judge beats daughter for using the Internet

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

Only upto a point though.

From what else you say, you understand that.

Some people on here do not understand it.

Agreed on all, there are limits on everything

[jerzdawg]

Dude just Get over it , there is a diffrence between to far and far enough, sorry that you have yet to grasp the concept. And that your kids must be to stupid to realize not to touch a stove or flame when on.

Edited as guessing your one of the parents of a**hole kids that go around biting people, cussing strangers out or parent of the pokemon kid that got on youtube yesterday or something, either way whatever have a nice life gtfover yourself.

get over what? why not let your brother or sister handle their kids and you keep your hands off of them. if you think hitting a kid is justified by messing with a computer you are the one who has problems. Dont assume you know anything about my personal life ... based on your post you arent even a parent so at least thats one less kid I dont have to worry about getting their "ass cracked"

[WelshBluebird]

Agreed on all, there are limits on everything

And the question is where do you draw the limits.

For me, physical punishment is not about the pain, it is about the shock of it and about the knowing that what you did is wrong. So a short, controlled, slap on your childs backside or whatever is fine. Constantly hitting them, leaving bruises, etc etc is not.

And IMO it shouldn't be about being scared of your parents either. Indeed, I feel sorry for people who genuinely scared of their parents. That relationship needs to be based on trust and respect. Not fear.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

get over what? why not let your brother or sister handle their kids and you keep your hands off of them. if you think hitting a kid is justified by messing with a computer you are the one who has problems. Dont assume you know anything about my personal life ... based on your post you arent even a parent so at least thats one less kid I dont have to worry about getting their "ass cracked"

Yea and you obviously have no idea what limits are between correction and abuse. You can keep you self justified little hellions all you want. Ill hear them enough on xbox before i mute them, and see them throwing crap around a store cause they didnt get a candybar every week. Ill be shure to save up to help put them through prison later on.

[John S. Veteran]

Police: No charge for judge in beating video

'Substantial evidence' for case, but statute of limitations has timed out, police chief says

McALLEN, Texas ? A family law judge whose daughter secretly videotaped him savagely beating her seven years ago won't face criminal charges because too much time has elapsed, police said.

Arkansas County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams likely would have been charged with causing injury to a child or other assault-related offenses for the 2004 beating of his then-16-year-old daughter, but the five-year statutes of limitations expired, Rockport Police Chief Tim Jayroe said Thursday.

"We believe that there was a criminal offense involved and that there was substantial evidence to indicate that and under normal circumstances ... a charge could have been made," Jayroe said. He said the district attorney determined he couldn't bring charges, and that police would discuss the case with federal prosecutors even though he doesn't believe federal charges would apply.

Hillary Adams, now 23, posted the 8-minute clip on YouTube last week that shows her father viciously lashing her with a belt and trying to force her to bend over her bed to be beaten despite her wails and pleas to stop. The clip had received more than 2.4 million hits as of Thursday, and police began investigating Wednesday after hearing from concerned citizens.

William Adams, 51, issued a three-page statement Thursday saying his daughter posted the clip to get back at him for telling her he would be reducing the amount of financial support he gives her and taking away her Mercedes. The statement did not include an apology for the beating, but he told Corpus Christi television station KZTV on Wednesday that the video "looks worse than it is," that he had already apologized to his daughter and that he was just disciplining his child for stealing.

Hillary Adams says her parents were angry because she had downloaded pirated content online, and that she turned on the camera because she sensed something was going to happen.

William Adams, who presides over child abuse cases, is still being investigated by the state's judicial conduct commission and the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, which on Thursday requested that he be removed from its cases until the investigation concludes.

"Just prior to the YouTube upload, a concerned father shared with his 23-year-old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to work hard and be her primary source of financial support, if she was going to simply 'drop out,' and strive to achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video game store," Adams' statement said. "Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it."

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[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

And the question is where do you draw the limits.

For me, physical punishment is not about the pain, it is about the shock of it and about the knowing that what you did is wrong. So a short, controlled, slap on your childs backside or whatever is fine. Constantly hitting them, leaving bruises, etc etc is not.

And IMO it shouldn't be about being scared of your parents either. Indeed, I feel sorry for people who genuinely scared of their parents. That relationship needs to be based on trust and respect. Not fear.

Agreed, constantly hitting them is to far, a lot of times that ( edit - 1 crack on rear ) works fine, the limits varies based on what went on. Ther are diffrent corections compared to, yelling top of lungs inside, stomping all around the house and throwing a computer monitor putting a hole in mothers wall,,,, and on the news there was a 6-10 yo kid that drew a handgun on a old lady. Yea a serious talk from the kid w the hand gun isnt going to do crap, but neither will a blaze of pain. when i was in school it was legal and fully expected for the principle to have a big freakin wood paddle with holes in it for misbehaving students. Guess what the education system then wasnt as screwed up as it is now, with metal detectors and all kinds of crap.

Cause back then parents wernt afraid or all full of themselves about correcting their kids, now majority of kids are nothing but badasses as now there is no fear, there is no repercussions of misbehaving other then " now jimmy you really need to stop choking billie with the swing "

But as far as my neices, simple rule she has to abide by, she corrects it her way and it stops, i correct it, or GTf out of my house. They have been told to go home multiple times. Guess what they dont act up when over, or when over their grandparents. The only thing my syster mainly does is the way alot of then" dont hit your kids regardless " yea guess what, they roll their eyes at her and continue. I tell them, they Fn listen

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

Co-worker brought up an interesting point, warch almost Any older family show, andy griffith, brady bunch, etc,etc,etc.

They rarely act up, its all sir and mam, and not much trouble.

Now ask your grandparent or even parent what happened to them when they mis behaved. Majority of the time they were told to go get a switch off the tree, if they didnt their parents would get a bigger one.

[nominak]

Co-worker brought up an interesting point, warch almost Any older family show, andy griffith, brady bunch, etc,etc,etc.

They rarely act up, its all sir and mam, and not much trouble.

Now ask your grandparent or even parent what happened to them when they mis behaved. Majority of the time they were told to go get a switch off the tree, if they didnt their parents would get a bigger one.

My parents never laid a finger on me, and i'm no hardened criminal. Try harder. I also rarely misbehaved. I did get sent to my room and told to stay in there for a while. Other than that I'm as functional as the rest of society.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

My parents never laid a finger on me, and i'm no hardened criminal. Try harder. I also rarely misbehaved. I did get sent to my room and told to stay in there for a while. Other than that I'm as functional as the rest of society.

Your a minority, congratulations! And society isnt as functional as you think.

[DDStriker]

^ That still does not make his actions justified.

Of course not however it doesn't justify her actions either

perhaps, but chances are this was not the first or last of the beatings. There was no way to know her father was going to beat her if it wasnt common practice.

def makes things interesting, granted it doesnt change that fact that the father was a complete lunatic. just deny access to the computer... anything involving something like downloading music or games does not warrant a grown man beating a 16 year old with a belt.

Oh no doubt it was the first or last which is what makes it worst because she knows full well what would aggravate him further by disobeying him she was able to make him go much further than he may have done in the past (of course i don't know for sure but for her to record it she would want something 'juicy' right? so why not make him look as bad as possible to create this video as her ace in the hole)

You dont happen to work for the RIAA or MPAA do you?

Ha i try to keep my personal view out of this my emphasis on the illegal activity is that

1) she has been warned before and asked not to do it

2) the guy is a judge so i'm sure he would be highly against it

3) if she was caught downloading this illegal content it would impact his credibility significantly

I don't recall which company i believe it was sony they are highly against piracy however some employees were busted using pirated software on their machines and it painted a real bad image for them as a whole

Do you really think she would have filmed him if he had hit her just this time?

She was obviously beaten several times before that video took place. If she hadn't filmed it, nobody would have believed her (remember, the guy is a judge).

Of course not i was merely implying that she knew how to tick him off she has had experience with it please read my above comment to jerzdawg as i feel it answers your question

My parents never laid a finger on me, and i'm no hardened criminal. Try harder. I also rarely misbehaved. I did get sent to my room and told to stay in there for a while. Other than that I'm as functional as the rest of society.

Please understand there are many influences in childrens lives as they grow up and not all are positive sometimes children can become spoilt due to one parent allowing it even if the other does not this also goes for their type of friends

point being is everyone is raised differently and different methods of punishment need to be administered (again i don't agree with hitting i feel the problem should be isolated at the source but in this case it's a lost cause)

[perochan]

just to let ppl know that most of the criminals are from bad parenting and domestic abuse and grow up to be a murder/rapist/etc.

not that you dont know that already.

[andy2012]

for those of you in this thread sticking up for the judge maybe you should read this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057419/Judge-William-Adams-beat-disabled-daughter-Hillary-video-WONT-charged.html

No ones saying children shouldnt be punished for doing wrong but this guy took it too far and even listening to the comments in the video of what he says to the young girl is sickening. The guy needs to be put on a register and barred from going near or working with children. You can tell from the video he is taking great pleasure in beating the **** out of his daughter. Any parent who discplines their child would do it but not enjoy it. For those of you in the thread who have kids do you enjoy punishing your kids ? do you enjoy beating them like this guy ?

There is no excuse for domestic child abuse and this is a clear case of such. If you dont believe me about him enjoying beating the **** out of his daughter then why after the mother hit her did the guy continue afterwards ? responsible parents would administer the punishment then leave it at that. In the video after the wife beats the daughter he goes back in and says "i didnt get my lick/hit/whip on here" (cant quite make out his words)

It saddens me that people feel the need to stick up for a monster. But you know what, karmas a bitch and what goes around comes around.

[DDStriker]

for those of you in this thread sticking up for the judge maybe you should read this

http://www.dailymail...NT-charged.html

No ones saying children shouldnt be punished for doing wrong but this guy took it too far and even listening to the comments in the video of what he says to the young girl is sickening. The guy needs to be put on a register and barred from going near or working with children. You can tell from the video he is taking great pleasure in beating the **** out of his daughter. Any parent who discplines their child would do it but not enjoy it. For those of you in the thread who have kids do you enjoy punishing your kids ? do you enjoy beating them like this guy ?

There is no excuse for domestic child abuse and this is a clear case of such. If you dont believe me about him enjoying beating the **** out of his daughter then why after the mother hit her did the guy continue afterwards ? responsible parents would administer the punishment then leave it at that. In the video after the wife beats the daughter he goes back in and says "i didnt get my lick/hit/whip on here" (cant quite make out his words)

It saddens me that people feel the need to stick up for a monster. But you know what, karmas a bitch and what goes around comes around.

I don't think anyone here is sticking up for the judge it's more saddening you're sticking up for his monster of a child the only reason you had was able to view this video is because she was about to lose her car and ran the risk of having to get a proper job because she's lazy so instead she attempts to defame her father for punishing her several years ago for downloading illegal material

One concept you have to keep in mind is that people discipline their children differently some use words (which doesn't always work) and others use physical punishment now for those who use physical punishment and to say bust their child taking drugs or whatever there is no doubt they would react similar and if the child was refusing to co-operate it would further annoy them HOWEVER that does not give them the right to go over the top just that both parties are in the wrong and sticking up for either one is wrong

since you believe in karma i guess that means you will be attacked by some non disciplined child (perhaps on halloween by joking around and attempting to take their candy and have a 10 year old point a gun at you :p)

[andy2012]

I don't think anyone here is sticking up for the judge it's more saddening you're sticking up for his monster of a child the only reason you had was able to view this video is because she was about to lose her car and ran the risk of having to get a proper job because she's lazy so instead she attempts to defame her father for punishing her several years ago for downloading illegal material

One concept you have to keep in mind is that people discipline their children differently some use words (which doesn't always work) and others use physical punishment now for those who use physical punishment and to say bust their child taking drugs or whatever there is no doubt they would react similar and if the child was refusing to co-operate it would further annoy them HOWEVER that does not give them the right to go over the top just that both parties are in the wrong and sticking up for either one is wrong

since you believe in karma i guess that means you will be attacked by some non disciplined child (perhaps on halloween by joking around and attempting to take their candy and have a 10 year old point a gun at you :p)

since when / where did i say I was sticking up for anyone ? there are two sides to every story but you cant watch that video and tell me that he is a normal human being ? what your saying is that what he did to his daughter was acceptable ? and since when did physical violence towards children become acceptable ? he didnt punish his daughter, he physically beat her mentally and physically for many years (read the article which im guessing you didnt bother to do :rolleyes: )

[jerzdawg]

I don't think anyone here is sticking up for the judge it's more saddening you're sticking up for his monster of a child the only reason you had was able to view this video is because she was about to lose her car and ran the risk of having to get a proper job because she's lazy so instead she attempts to defame her father for punishing her several years ago for downloading illegal material

One concept you have to keep in mind is that people discipline their children differently some use words (which doesn't always work) and others use physical punishment now for those who use physical punishment and to say bust their child taking drugs or whatever there is no doubt they would react similar and if the child was refusing to co-operate it would further annoy them HOWEVER that does not give them the right to go over the top just that both parties are in the wrong and sticking up for either one is wrong

since you believe in karma i guess that means you will be attacked by some non disciplined child (perhaps on halloween by joking around and attempting to take their candy and have a 10 year old point a gun at you :p)

Something to keep in mind about why the video got posted.... Is it possible that years of abuse (physical and mental) put her in the state she is in? Granted that's no excuse to "blackmail" her father but it could be some reasoning for her actions. Also keep in mind that most people who are abused suffer from psychological issues most people can't understand. We could say that him pulling the car/$$ was the straw that broke the camels back.... None of us really know the thought process and back ground to this whole story but either way this guy should be held accountable for his actions. Since that statute of limitations has run out for criminal charges this guy should be thrown off the bench and fired from and state/local employment.

[NoLiMiT06]

This guy is a pig, I understand you want to punish your child and I am not against that but there is a fine line between punishment and abuse. He clearly stepped over the line as did his wife, I feel bad for the young girl that had to go through this. From what I heard since this happened so long ago he will not face any charges but I could be wrong on that.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

I would wager that every prosecutor and defense attorney in Texas has a copy of this video. Just in case they have to appear before him either prosecuting or defending a child abuse case. This "Judge" would have to recuse himself from the case or chance a mistrial.

[dnast]

I probably shouldn't comment since posts are being interpreted far from what was actually written in the posts, but I'll go ahead anyway.

First, I'll say that this guy went way overboard. This is not acceptable at all. I hope for everyone's sake this was the worst of the worst by far. In my heart I also hope that father regretted his actions long before the video was posted, even though I won't get my hopes up. And I wouldn't be upset if he got his ass handed to him for his actions.

Anyway, I just wanted to make a few (probably controversial) observations:

Before reading any comments here I got the sense that some of what the girl was doing was out of the ordinary - and I suspect it was mainly because she was recording it. She definitely didn't deserve the abuse at all, so this is only a side point, but she obviously knew she was about to get a belt "whooping". Being that she has likely had one before and seeing how the parents seemed thrown off that she wouldn't just turn around to get the "whooping" gave me the feeling that she was purposely trying to push her father's buttons.

I've felt a belt through my jeans, and while it was unpleasant, it was certainly better than accidentally getting hit anywhere else (hell, I was more than happy to take a spanking over any punishment that lasted over a day and I wasn't even her age then). Like I said before, her parents seemed surprised that she didn't just turn around...she was getting hit on her arms and legs which actually do really really hurt and she still didn't just turn around to get it over with. That doesn't in the least bit excuse either parent; I'm only commenting on what the girl's intentions might have been.

Also, a couple of posters brought up the fact that principals in schools used to paddle kids in school for acting up. I've felt a frat-class paddle as an adult and that felt 10 times worse than any full spanking I received; and that was very legal once upon a time. While I don't believe we should bring that back, it's hard to go from those days to believing that any physical discipline of a child should result in "30 years in prison" or even being "executed on the streets". Sure, the ###### in the video needs a serious wake-up call, but I don't believe that all physical discipline should be a criminal offense.

That being said, while I do understand being overly angry from blatant disregard to the parents' wishes, they're doing it all wrong and in the worst way. First you don't physically discipline at all while you're upset; that's worse than grocery shopping while you're hungry - you can't always take it back. Second, she was a teenager: you're being naive if it didn't cross your mind that she's in an awkward situation in her life at that point and that her rebellion is her natural attempt to prove her individuality and independence. It's not like you've never been a teenager yourself!

[DDStriker]

since when / where did i say I was sticking up for anyone ? there are two sides to every story but you cant watch that video and tell me that he is a normal human being ? what your saying is that what he did to his daughter was acceptable ? and since when did physical violence towards children become acceptable ? he didnt punish his daughter, he physically beat her mentally and physically for many years (read the article which im guessing you didnt bother to do :rolleyes: )

No need to roll your eyes i read the article in full, you are attacking people who are not defending the judge but are against the child as well and are calling us out on it, So you are either sticking up for her by attacking us or you are attacking us for feeling they are both in the wrong which one is it?

I'm aware there are two sides to a story infact thats all my posts have been about where as yours feels one sided, again it would be nice if you read my post i read your article the least you could do is read my post as i never stated the punishment was acceptable if anything it was merely to show my disapproval of such behaviour nor am i trying to justify it i'm merely attacking her motives for recording this video.

the word punishment is still valid in the case of his actions she wasn't "beaten up" please don't be so naive and assume he "physically" beat her "mentally" she's just milking this for all it's worth as to not lose her car/money do not confuse this with me supporting the punishment but don't be mislead by her playing coy if she was truly hurt by his actions she would have released this video as soon as possible and to the police so she may be offered protection not some random public venue like youtube instead of holding onto it as blackmail for when she wouldn't get her way and his response to it was pretty much "i won't be blackmailed by you if you want to publish it go for it" and so she did if she truly wanted to get "help" for him or her self why would she say to him she has a video and hinting towards publishing it? these two statements ring strong

"If the public must know, just prior to the YouTube upload, a concerned father shared with his 23-year-old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to? be her primary source of financial support,"

"Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it. The post was then uploaded."

Something to keep in mind about why the video got posted.... Is it possible that years of abuse (physical and mental) put her in the state she is in? Granted that's no excuse to "blackmail" her father but it could be some reasoning for her actions. Also keep in mind that most people who are abused suffer from psychological issues most people can't understand. We could say that him pulling the car/$$ was the straw that broke the camels back.... None of us really know the thought process and back ground to this whole story but either way this guy should be held accountable for his actions. Since that statute of limitations has run out for criminal charges this guy should be thrown off the bench and fired from and state/local employment.

Seems doubtful i did take that into consideration but it's leaning more towards a cash grab rather than a poor traumatized girl who was punished for doing illegal stuff..etc..

every now and then i read a bit more about the case as it progresses and more and more it just seems like she enjoys his money too much so he wants to cut off financial support and is hoping this case will allow her to take his money or something who knows

(this section rabbles on for a bit i'll have to clean it up later)

As for your statements about him being thrown off the bench and fired i don't know seems a bit far if anything filter him from cases that involve children victims if we want to take psychological issues into consideration with the girl then why not with the judge? perhaps his father used to punish him like that and his father before him so it's just natural punishment for him

lots of parents would punish their kids heavily for disobeying them it is becoming less and less common which is great but it's not all going to stop at once i'm still disappointed with the wife because she's speaking about how bad it was she should have called the cops and reported him

they are trying to investigate this problem now but are unable to do anything since it's been about 5 years i'm sure they would still have made an effort if she reported him 7 years ago but perhaps she didn't think much of it back then honestly i don't know i'm just speculating like everyone else but i still feel confident that this has been blown out completely to make everyone feel sorry for the girl

I probably shouldn't comment since posts are being interpreted far from what was actually written in the posts, but I'll go ahead anyway.

First, I'll say that this guy went way overboard. This is not acceptable at all. I hope for everyone's sake this was the worst of the worst by far. In my heart I also hope that father regretted his actions long before the video was posted, even though I won't get my hopes up. And I wouldn't be upset if he got his ass handed to him for his actions.

Anyway, I just wanted to make a few (probably controversial) observations:

Before reading any comments here I got the sense that some of what the girl was doing was out of the ordinary - and I suspect it was mainly because she was recording it. She definitely didn't deserve the abuse at all, so this is only a side point, but she obviously knew she was about to get a belt "whooping". Being that she has likely had one before and seeing how the parents seemed thrown off that she wouldn't just turn around to get the "whooping" gave me the feeling that she was purposely trying to push her father's buttons.

I've felt a belt through my jeans, and while it was unpleasant, it was certainly better than accidentally getting hit anywhere else (hell, I was more than happy to take a spanking over any punishment that lasted over a day and I wasn't even her age then). Like I said before, her parents seemed surprised that she didn't just turn around...she was getting hit on her arms and legs which actually do really really hurt and she still didn't just turn around to get it over with. That doesn't in the least bit excuse either parent; I'm only commenting on what the girl's intentions might have been.

Also, a couple of posters brought up the fact that principals in schools used to paddle kids in school for acting up. I've felt a frat-class paddle as an adult and that felt 10 times worse than any full spanking I received; and that was very legal once upon a time. While I don't believe we should bring that back, it's hard to go from those days to believing that any physical discipline of a child should result in "30 years in prison" or even being "executed on the streets". Sure, the ###### in the video needs a serious wake-up call, but I don't believe that all physical discipline should be a criminal offense.

That being said, while I do understand being overly angry from blatant disregard to the parents' wishes, they're doing it all wrong and in the worst way. First you don't physically discipline at all while you're upset; that's worse than grocery shopping while you're hungry - you can't always take it back. Second, she was a teenager: you're being naive if it didn't cross your mind that she's in an awkward situation in her life at that point and that her rebellion is her natural attempt to prove her individuality and independence. It's not like you've never been a teenager yourself!

+1 Exactly what i was trying to convey it's just a shame i have to keep clarifying

[Calum Veteran]

[. . .] From what I heard since this happened so long ago he will not face any charges but I could be wrong on that.

I hope you are wrong about that because that would be a ridiculous judgement. Criminals shouldn't be let off just because their crime was committed some years ago. Would the person making that decision feel the same about someone who committed murder years ago?

[Bloodwork]

Would the person making that decision feel the same about someone who committed murder years ago?

Generally, the Statute of Limitations does not apply to murder.

[jesseinsf]

Shoot him in the knees.*

In all seriousness, domestic abuse is terrible and should never be tolerated. He simply thinks he's above the law, and the law should come down fully on him. However he's more likely to get a lenient punishment.

That won't do anything. You have to cripple both his hands so he can't use them anymore.

[jerzdawg]

As for your statements about him being thrown off the bench and fired i don't know seems a bit far if anything filter him from cases that involve children victims if we want to take psychological issues into consideration with the girl then why not with the judge? perhaps his father used to punish him like that and his father before him so it's just natural punishment for him

Why is him losing a state/federal job "a bit far"? If this was within the last few years he would have been charged with a felony and thrown in jail. Jobs that are "higher" up require maintaining a public image (esp. a judge). As for the psychological issues of the judge, its not relevant here because he broke the law and the daughter didnt. If that was the case then the father should have seeked help ...

[Oz.]

Parents? f**king? scumbags, this mother f**kers are social danger.

I have been in the same situation, now after some years they ask me why we don't speak so much :)) f**king primates.

[dnast]

I hope you are wrong about that because that would be a ridiculous judgement. Criminals shouldn't be let off just because their crime was committed some years ago. Would the person making that decision feel the same about someone who committed murder years ago?

Like what was said before, statute of limitations doesn't apply to murder. But as far as statute of limitations in general, I feel they may be necessary for a number of reasons. It's hard enough getting accurate testimonies from witnesses not long after an incident, let alone say 10 years later. If a supposed victim is lying they get plenty of time produce false evidence, come up with a more credible story, etc.

Also, a pet peeve of mine is when people keep hush until the suspect gets in the spotlight and has a lot to lose. For example, I'm not a Herman Cain fan by any means whatsoever and I haven't yet looked into the sexual harassment allegations, but from what little I've heard, these things happened ~20 years ago? That doesn't excuse his actions at all if that's what really happened, but I can't help but wonder about the timing.

But back to the girl in the video....somewhere in this thread I read that she has a little sister. I'm thinking the sister might have still been going through abuse in a timeframe where a statute of limitations wouldn't apply (?)