Battlefield 3 Cracked To Run Without Origin, EA Sheds A Tear


Recommended Posts

The problem is that your "evidence" is opinion. No one can answer how they will update their game, how they will receive DLC ect.... All I get is assumptions. No one has released the patch for the release day patch yet?????

They could just as easily integrate a patcher in the Battlelog plugin. Once again, there is no point to Origin.

And since we're forced to use Origin in the first place to activate, there's little reason in uninstalling it. It's not like it allows you to remove Origin completely from your computer. Patches are still distributed through it. It's just something that eases the process of launching the game.

They could just as easily integrate a patcher in the Battlelog plugin. Once again, there is no point to Origin.

And since we're forced to use Origin in the first place to activate, there's little reason in uninstalling it. It's not like it allows you to remove Origin completely from your computer. Patches are still distributed through it. It's just something that eases the process of launching the game.

My point. Assumptions. Right now, if I went and purchased the game from Walmart, loaded it, cracked it to eliminate Origin, I could not get the release day patch, therefore I could not play. All this to save a few cycles and a 1/2 a meg of ram, well worth it. My whole point is not to defend Origin or EA but to make sure people understand the big picture here, the fact that you could very well be left out to dry in a few weeks when EA needs to make a patch, or worse, get your CD Key banned and you just lost $60. Spreading FUD that Origin is a virus, or a Trojan or sucks up so many resources that your computer drags to a crawl are downright false! Am I unhappy I have to install yet another piece of software, yes but the game is so magnificent it is well worth it. Plus, to defend Origin a little bit, it restored two games that I lost the CD keys too in my move, BF2142 and BFBC2. That was cool.

Umm let's see..trust ea and origin....multibillion dollar company who has some form of accountability/security...or trust a group of hackers living out of their grandmas basement who create a piece of spyware/Trojan/virus laden piece of software that does god know what in the background of my computer..think I will stick with ea and origin

the fact that you could very well be left out to dry in a few weeks when EA needs to make a patch, or worse, get your CD Key banned and you just lost $60.

I've stated that I do not mind losing 50$, since it's not really a loss to me in the state that the game is in right now. When the game is patched up and released independently, I will simply buy that version of it. Once again, also. This patch is to solve the problem of having to constantly run Origin to play the game. It doesn't completely get around the Origin dependency. The next time I need to update, I will replace the .exe with the old, and fire up Origin again to do so. This is exactly what Origin should be - a patch manager.

Plus, to defend Origin a little bit, it restored two games that I lost the CD keys too in my move, BF2142 and BFBC2. That was cool.

I don't understand how it managed to recover CD keys for you, but good for you. Origin has its uses, but none of them justify the need to constantly have it running while playing BF3. Even the majority of the non-Steamworks games bought on Steam allow me to launch without steam running. I need only execute the .exe lying in the steamapps\common\ folder.

Spreading FUD that Origin is a virus, or a Trojan or sucks up so many resources that your computer drags to a crawl are downright false! Am I unhappy I have to install yet another piece of software, yes but the game is so magnificent it is well worth it.

Quote me where I claimed that Origin is a resource hog. And certainly I do care that it takes information without my permission (something that steam asks for), but I do not necessarily care about the information being taken. It's more about the intent than the crime.

My entire argument has revolved around Origin being useless, and I do not think I should be forced to use something to play a game, where it offers me little in advantage, and quite frankly causes more problems than it's worth. Battlefield games since BF2 have always been a hassle to actually get into servers, but wonderful once you're in.

I'm sure the core gameplay will improve over the months, but I'd honestly rather BC2's system over a process of: Launching Origin (20-30 sec), launching and loading Battlelog (20-30 sec depending on how my connection is feeling), then loading the game for another minute and a half. Let's take a look at Call of Duty 4 as a quick example on how it SHOULD be done. You can change your name, adjust your loadout, attain ranks, and go from your desktop, to loading a server in less than 30 seconds. There's no reason a triple-a developer 4 years later cannot do this.

Launching Origin (20-30 sec), launching and loading Battlelog (20-30 sec depending on how my connection is feeling), then loading the game for another minute and a half.

Since you ignored my answer to this in my previous post: Please explain to me how the Origin integration takes 20-30 seconds.

Do you tab out of BF3, close Origin, tab back in, play, then quit, then 10 minutes later find you want to play again?

I'm not even trying to argue anymore, I'm just curious why you list it as 20-30 seconds.

Hey look at me, I hate Origin so much that I will install, without question, this "patch" from a known cracker/hacker group, down with Origin!!!!

I'm sure a lot of people will trust Razor1911 more then they can throw EA. Razor1911 and the other high profile cracking groups work on trust, and seem to have better ethics then EA have to its own paying customers.

I'm sure a lot of people will trust Razor1911 more then they can throw EA. Razor1911 and the other high profile cracking groups work on trust, and seem to have better ethics then EA have to its own paying customers.

Apart from being thieves, you mean?

Yes, very ethical bunch of guys... :rolleyes:

Since you ignored my answer to this in my previous post: Please explain to me how the Origin integration takes 20-30 seconds.

Do you tab out of BF3, close Origin, tab back in, play, then quit, then 10 minutes later find you want to play again?

I'm not even trying to argue anymore, I'm just curious why you list it as 20-30 seconds.

On a Q8200 overclocked to 3.2 GHz, it takes a full 20 seconds to get to a state where it is responsive and logged in. I would take a video, but that's too much effort to prove a simple point that you should be able to take my word on. It certainly does not start up instantly no matter how good a computer you have. Are you sure that's not just your SSD deluding you?

EA's Origin is spying on you.

Some people claim this video is fake, but I ran Process Monitor and got the same results myself.

It's not fake. It's just isn't very accurate on the description. To the point where's it's just blatant lies: http://www.neowin.ne...t__p__594423921

On a Q8200 overclocked to 3.2 GHz, it takes a full 20 seconds to get to a state where it is responsive and logged in. I would take a video, but that's too much effort to prove a simple point that you should be able to take my word on. It certainly does not start up instantly no matter how good a computer you have. Are you sure that's not just your SSD deluding you?

Origin isn't installed on my SSD, but on my Hitachi DeskStar SATA6G drive. I assumed that, like Steam, it would install games to the same directory it was installed in, and I just haven't been bothered moving it :p

I just counted how long Origin took to launch for me, 11 seconds until everything (including the chat) had loaded, i7-2600k @ 3.4 GHz.

In either case, this doesn't explain why you have to endure the 20 seconds every time. From your posts you made it sound like every time you closed BF3, the next time you wanted to play you had to wait for that all over again, which would only be true if you closed Origin between each sesh, which is sort of silly (considering you say it's not about resources). That's what I found curious, you brought it up among a list of things you do have to wait for on every game launch.

Inb4 "Yeah I could leave it open but I don't want Origin!" :p

Origin isn't installed on my SSD, but on my Hitachi DeskStar SATA6G drive. I assumed that, like Steam, it would install games to the same directory it was installed in, and I just haven't been bothered moving it :p

I just counted how long Origin took to launch for me, 11 seconds until everything (including the chat) had loaded, i7-2600k @ 3.4 GHz.

In either case, this doesn't explain why you have to endure the 20 seconds every time. From your posts you made it sound like every time you closed BF3, the next time you wanted to play you had to wait for that all over again, which would only be true if you closed Origin between each sesh, which is sort of silly (considering you say it's not about resources). That's what I found curious, you brought it up among a list of things you do have to wait for on every game launch.

Inb4 "Yeah I could leave it open but I don't want Origin!" :p

Simply put: I do not like running programs that I'm not using. I do not run Origin when I do not need it. Thus, every time I boot BF3, that 20-30 second start up time gets in my way (of course, this is no longer the case with the Razor1911 patch). It's not like I would restart it every time I entered a server tho.

The only reason I use Steam is because it's my central hub for friends in place of social networks. I use Trillian to idle in Neowin's IRC as well as Skype, so I use it on a regular basis. Music is always played in my background, so foobar is always running in the tray. I even have adobe, google, and other updaters set to run on a schedule in task host instead of in the background.

I do not take kindly to applications that simply run in the background, especially if they have tray icons. I don't have mine set to autohide, so I'm constantly reminded of their presence since it's pretty much my base for all major activities (have an icon for Trillian, foobar, Live Mail, Steam, and MSE).

To give a reason other than personal preference, Origin cannot collect data if it is not running.

Has anyone been getting Origin app crashes? it does it to me quite a bit especially after the last update. But anyways, the biggest complaint about Origin is you cant upload a custom avatar (unless i missed something) and the friends limit is 100. /lame

Simply put: I do not like running programs that I'm not using. I do not run Origin when I do not need it. Thus, every time I boot BF3, that 20-30 second start up time gets in my way (of course, this is no longer the case with the Razor1911 patch). It's not like I would restart it every time I entered a server tho.

While I can see and respect your opinion, I believe it is fallacious to lament the startup time when it is you and only you that is the cause of the startup time. This is furthered by the fact that you are still harping on the data collection point which has been solidly refuted, making you come off like you are uninformed (either by choice or by lack of reading the provided links in this thread) and just complaining for the sake of complaining.

In case you didn't click the Reddit link; Yes it's true that Origin scans your entire HDD, but it does so entirely to pick up any games that it can add to its library that exists in its database, for games whom Origin took over patching duties when it was released. It has been proved (via Microsoft's own API documentation) that the APIs you see in the video do not read the contents of the file, it simply reads the file attributes like date created, date modified, file size.

This is required information to determine whether the file belongs to a game that Origin can add to its library.

In addition, it has also been proved that absolutely no information whatsoever regarding your files, not even a single date stamp is sent back to EA's servers.

Now that being said, I bet you are going to say that "Oh well Origin shouldn't do that without my consent, because I like manually downloading patches etc" or something to that effect, which is fair enough. I'm merely pointing out that your data collection claim is 100% FUD and incorrect. Please stop repeating it. The fewer people repeating it, the more intelligent the discussion becomes :)

If you doubt anything I've said, my source is here: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/lsoj6/still_thinking_eas_origin_is_harmless/c2vbjty

Pay specific attention to the post by swebonny, s/he is pointing out that this is the API call they are querying: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff545762%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

As you can see, there's nothing malicious or invasive about the information returned :)

Well I finally gave in and tried it. The patch is not a program or anything. All it is is a modified BF3 executable that allows the game to run without Origin. I will tell you my experience with this patched executable:

Before using this, every time...and I mean, every time...I launched BF3 for the first time, the game would simply crash so I had to close it and restart it again. I have always said that the crashing is being caused by the Origin client and i think this patched BF3 file proves my point.

I backed up my original BF3 executable then I replaced it with the patched BF3.exe. I have been playing online for 2 hours now, no issues and the most amazing thing:

BF3 did not crash when I opened it to play it. Every time I run it to play it does not crash like it did before with the original BF3.exe that automatically runs Origin.

I have always said it and I stand by this: Origin is making BF3 crash.

FYI, Origin doesn't collect data.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

This is completely false and has been proven so all over the Internet.

Simply Googling brings back tons of results. Two such examples:

http://www.google.com/search?q=origin+programdata

http://www.google.com/search?q=origin+collects+data

So, has anyone actually been banned for using this little trick yet (or at all)?

I'd love to use it, but since my friend bought me the game, I'd feel really poopy if I got the game banned and all :(

So, has anyone actually been banned for using this little trick yet (or at all)?

I'd love to use it, but since my friend bought me the game, I'd feel really poopy if I got the game banned and all :(

Been using it for a couple of days now, no issues as of yet.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Surgie matched da Vinci precision in live trials; Unitree’s DoD listing complicates hospital adoption Teleoperated humanoid robots completed live in-vivo surgery for the first time in medical history, UC San Diego researchers reported in Nature on July 8, 2026 — a proof of concept that could eventually extend surgical care to rural communities, battlefields, and remote settings where surgical specialists are absent. But the specific robot at the center of the breakthrough, the Unitree G1, was added to the U.S. Department of Defense's list of Chinese military companies just 30 days before the paper was published, carries a documented wormable security exploit affecting all units ever manufactured, and continuously transmits sensor data to servers in China without notifying the operator. The achievement is real, and the complications are real. Institutions evaluating this technology need to understand both. https://www.techtimes.com/articles/320157/20260711/humanoid-robots-perform-first-live-surgery-pentagon-flags-hardware-chinese-military-tech.htm  
    • Failed to open \EFI\ubuntu\ - Not found That message keeps popping up every time I boot the computer. Stays there for a few seconds than vanishes and the PC loads Linux Mint, but its really annoying the hell out of me, so, does anyone here know and can tell me how to fix that or get rid of it please? Thank you  
    • It's in fashion to bash Microsoft for even existing. It's getting old fast. People talk like other vendors' products are flawless and without issues.
    • Could God or aliens actually be real as new theory says we shouldn't even exist by Sayan Sen Image by cottonbro studio via Pexels A study published in July 2025 examined one of science's biggest unanswered questions: how life first emerged from non-living matter on early Earth. The research, led by Robert G. Endres of Imperial College London, used mathematics to examine how difficult it would have been for the first living system, known as a protocell, to form before Darwinian evolution began. The origin of life remained an open question in physics and chemistry. Scientists had already studied how simple molecules might have formed under early Earth conditions, but this study focused on a different challenge: how those molecules could have become organized into a functioning living system. To investigate this, Endres developed a mathematical framework based on information theory and algorithmic complexity. Information theory is a branch of mathematics that studies how information is stored, measured and organized. In this study, it was used to estimate how much meaningful information a biological system would have needed to function. Algorithmic complexity measures how much information or how many instructions are required to describe or recreate something. More complex systems require more detailed organization. The study applied these ideas to a protocell, a simple cell-like structure that scientists considered a possible early step toward life. A protocell would have needed basic features, such as a boundary separating its internal chemical environment from its surroundings, before more advanced biological processes could develop. Using modern computational estimates, the research evaluated how difficult it would have been to assemble the organized biological information needed for a protocell under plausible prebiotic conditions. Prebiotic conditions referred to Earth's chemical and physical environment before life existed, including oceans, minerals and energy sources that might have supported chemical reactions. The findings suggested that forming a viable protocell would have faced major informational and physical barriers during the relatively limited time available in Earth's early history. As biological systems became more complex, the amount of organized information required also increased, making spontaneous assembly through random processes increasingly difficult. The study compared this challenge to trying to write an article about the origins of life for a well-renowned space-based website by randomly placing letters onto a page. Individual letters might have appeared by chance, but producing a complete and meaningful article became vastly less likely as more information was required. The comparison illustrated why assembling a highly organized biological system presented such a significant scientific challenge. The research also examined entropy, a concept in physics that describes the number of possible arrangements within a system and is often associated with increasing disorder. Because natural processes tend to move toward states with greater entropy, explaining how the highly organized structures found in living systems developed from non-living matter remains a major scientific challenge. The study did not conclude that life could not have originated naturally on Earth. Instead, it suggested that current scientific understanding might have been incomplete and that additional physical principles or mechanisms might have been needed to explain how biological organization first emerged. The paper stated that "Ultimately, uncovering physical principles for life's spontaneous emergence remains a grand challenge for biological physics." Biological physics is the field that applies the principles of physics to understand living systems, from molecules and cells to larger biological structures. The study also discussed directed panspermia, a speculative hypothesis suggesting that life might have been intentionally introduced to Earth by an advanced extraterrestrial civilization. Directed panspermia was originally proposed by Francis Crick and Leslie Orgel. The idea remained a possible but unconfirmed explanation and had not been supported by direct evidence. The paper stated, "While the idea of Earth being terraformed by advanced extraterrestrials might violate Occam's razor from within mainstream science, directed panspermia -- originally proposed by Francis Crick and Leslie Orgel -- remains a speculative but logically open alternative." Occam's razor is the scientific and philosophical principle that, when multiple explanations fit the available evidence, the one requiring the fewest assumptions is generally preferred. The study noted that directed panspermia introduced more assumptions than natural origin models. The research did not present directed panspermia as the preferred explanation, nor did it rule out the possibility that life emerged naturally on Earth. Instead, it measured the scale of the informational challenge and suggested that further discoveries might be needed to identify mechanisms that could explain the transition from non-living chemistry to life. Scientists continued investigating the origin of life through chemistry, biology, geology and physics. Previous research had explored environments such as hydrothermal vents, shallow pools and mineral surfaces where early chemical processes might have taken place. This study did not directly test those ideas. Instead, it examined the broader requirements that any successful explanation would have needed to meet. By combining mathematics with biology, the research aimed to provide a more quantitative way of studying the origin of life. Although it did not answer how life began, it highlighted the complexity of the problem and the need for further research into one of science's most enduring mysteries. Source: Imperial College London via Universe Today, arXiv This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
    • +-------------------------------------------------+ | HEADER (TT4 Standard) | | Menü: News | Areas | Technologies | +-------------------------------------------------+ | 🟥 HERO = NEWS | | ------------------------------------------------| | Title: "the actual news & Updates" | | | | • News 1 (newest) | | • News 2 | | • News 3 | | | | [see all news →] | +-------------------------------------------------+  
  • Recent Achievements

    • Rising Star
      ExPat went up a rank
      Rising Star
    • Reacting Well
      Gideon Waxfarb earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • First Post
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      First Post
    • One Month Later
      pahariyaseo earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      pahariyaseo earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      431
    2. 2
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      146
    3. 3
      Nick H.
      89
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      87
    5. 5
      +Edouard
      79
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!