wp7 How I Talked My Son Out Of An iPhone

[George P Global Moderator]

One gets 10h+ use time, the other one doesn't. Guess which one does.

Also the WP UI is just f*cking abysmal - the guys at my old workplace call it "diarrhea" and they have to actually program for it. It is the worst user interface I have ever seen on a phone and for gods sake I've used Ericsson phones in the 90s.

Sorry to break it to you but having used Nokia phones for years, and Ericsson phones in the 90s as well, Symbians UI is a mess of lists and menus so deep they make Windows 95 look brand new. And I don't know what you mean by 10h+ use time? I get a day easy on my phone off of wifi which eats battery more than anything, even longer if I'm on the road and just pulling down over 3G. And Hey, if I wanted to use it the same way my Symbian phone does I can just stop it from pulling down updates and background tasks and get even more battery time, now that's a thought.

[Slammers]

Nice advertising. He should have got an iphone. I would never buy one (i'm strictly android) but for a kid whose friends all have one, I think they would get much more enjoyment out of an iphone and all it's superior games and apps.

edit: surely people don't actually argue against iphone having the better apps. Regardless of it's the best phone and/or OS or not it's definitely got more AAA apps

[HawkMan]

Nice advertising. He should have got an iphone. I would never buy one (i'm strictly android) but for a kid whose friends all have one, I think they would get much more enjoyment out of an iphone and all it's superior games and apps.

edit: surely people don't actually argue against iphone having the better apps. Regardless of it's the best phone and/or OS or not it's definitely got more AAA apps

I get it you've NEVER used a WP7 phone since you seem to think iPhone has superior apps...

[Krome]

I really hate to see Microsoft employee trying to break the mindset of people. I mean stop using pathetic tactics such as "going with the crowd" BS. People have preferences of what they like. The damn metro style is out-of-date since, (let throw in a random date) 1980s. These marketing attempt made by Microsoft employee is pathetic. Zune didn't go as far and they trying to make people think it is way better than iPod and stuff. Now again with the cellphone industry. Trying to brainwash consumer is never a good thing.

[Knife Party]

WP7 is nice, and personally can't wait to jump ship from an iphone to the Lumia 710 :)

[Coi]

I really hate to see Microsoft employee trying to break the mindset of people. I mean stop using pathetic tactics such as "going with the crowd" BS. People have preferences of what they like. The damn metro style is out-of-date since, (let throw in a random date) 1980s. These marketing attempt made by Microsoft employee is pathetic. Zune didn't go as far and they trying to make people think it is way better than iPod and stuff. Now again with the cellphone industry. Trying to brainwash consumer is never a good thing.

How exactly is MIcrosoft trying to brainwash people? The only logical explanation I can find for this post is that you misspelt Apple..

[evo_spook]

I get it you've NEVER used a WP7 phone since you seem to think iPhone has superior apps...

so.. you're saying WP7 has superior Apps?

[shakey]

I'd like for Microsoft to "talk" me into a WP7... and by talk I mean give.

[Astra.Xtreme]

I get it you've NEVER used a WP7 phone since you seem to think iPhone has superior apps...

At this point, I think it's pretty safe to say that yes iPhone has superior apps. Maybe WP7 will catch up in the future as it gains some tenure.

[micro]

One gets 10h+ use time, the other one doesn't. Guess which one does.

Also the WP UI is just f*cking abysmal - the guys at my old workplace call it "diarrhea" and they have to actually program for it. It is the worst user interface I have ever seen on a phone and for gods sake I've used Ericsson phones in the 90s.

I am a developer of multiple windows phone apps, i think that the windows phone UI and development tools are the best i've ever written for. I've also written on the android platform and the ios platform.

[HawkMan]

At this point, I think it's pretty safe to say that yes iPhone has superior apps. Maybe WP7 will catch up in the future as it gains some tenure.

No, I'd say iOS and WP7 are pretty equal on the App quality, in some aspects WP7 come out on top though with more design unity. but overall, pretty equal.

[123456789A]

One gets 10h+ use time, the other one doesn't. Guess which one does.

Also the WP UI is just f*cking abysmal - the guys at my old workplace call it "diarrhea" and they have to actually program for it. It is the worst user interface I have ever seen on a phone and for gods sake I've used Ericsson phones in the 90s.

I get 10h+ on my WP7 easily. Never used a Symbian phone before - I could judge the OS by screenshots like people do all the time against the Metro UI, but I won't. Having used the WP7 for a couple of months now, I have to say the UI just makes a lot of sense. At first you have to get out of the 1980s mindset of folders and icons in grids, so once you make use of live tiles, you have everything at your fingertips. The integration is also top notch and I can't see myself going back to my other phones now.

Maybe your friends called Metro "diarrhea" because of how well it flows. Any other OS would be constipation. :D

[BajiRav]

Maybe your friends called Metro "diarrhea" because of how well it flows. Any other OS would be constipation. :D

:rofl:

[S00N3R FR3AK]

I love my Focus. I bet if more people would actually pick up a WP7 and play with it, they'd be sold on them too.

I am sold, Sprint just needs to give me some choices.

[tanjiajun_34]

... so once you make use of live tiles, you have everything at your fingertips. The integration is also top notch and I can't see myself going back to my other phones now. Maybe your friends called Metro "diarrhea" because of how well it flows. Any other OS would be constipation. :D

After using both WP7 and Android (I own both Galaxy S and HTC Mozart) I still feel android get things done faster than WP7 especially for the toggle switches (wifi, bluetooth). For WP7 to on wifi, firstly you have to open settings (lets take it as settings in on top of your live tiles), click wifi, click the switch. On android, I just have to pull down notification, click wifi and done. I can do this while doing other stuffs like surfing the browser at the same time without exiting it. Also i don't find that live tiles are so much of a different with android and ios with its homescreen. At least iOS and Android's you can see more applications to open at once where by you can only see 8 or lesser applications unless you scroll down. Another thing I had problems with is multitasking on WP7. Why do I have to spam the back button to close the application. I hope they can make it as simple as Android's ICS or iOS. I like metro ui but I feel it reduces productivity for me. Well all these is IMO. It might be false.

[Muhammad Farrukh]

After using both WP7 and Android (I own both Galaxy S and HTC Mozart) I still feel android get things done faster than WP7 especially for the toggle switches (wifi, bluetooth). For WP7 to on wifi, firstly you have to open settings (lets take it as settings in on top of your live tiles), click wifi, click the switch. On android, I just have to pull down notification, click wifi and done. I can do this while doing other stuffs like surfing the browser at the same time without exiting it. Also i don't find that live tiles are so much of a different with android and ios with its homescreen. At least iOS and Android's you can see more applications to open at once where by you can only see 8 or lesser applications unless you scroll down.

After using both Windows Phone and Android, I still think that Windows Phone, in almost every single way, does things faster than Android.

On stock Android, you don't have the power-widget in notification area. Its only a Samsung thing.

So you still have to go to menu, srttings, .... to activate it.

On Windows Phone, you can pin it to start screen, tap it and then tap/slide the button, and that'll do it.

Ans Live Tiles are very different than widgets. I don't exactly get what you are saying here.

You don't like scroling? Pffftt.....

I agree, that some people prefer tiles rather than list, so yeah, I'll leave it there.

Another thing I had problems with is multitasking on WP7. Why do I have to spam the back button to close the application. I hope they can make it as simple as Android's ICS or iOS. I like metro ui but I feel it reduces productivity for me. Well all these is IMO. It might be false.

WHAT?

U MAD BRO?

You have to [spam] the back button because thats how you get out of the app you just entered. I can see where you are coming from.

Android. app > *work done* > press home button and you are out.

It is entirely different , and better, on Windows Phone.

[HawkMan]

WP7 doesn't need to toggle wifi and stuff anyway. WP phones has proper battery usage anyway.

And you don't need to close apps, they don't "run" in the background using power.

[shockz]

100 million fart/guns/girls in swimwear apps, that's enough to make me switch to iCAMP.... /s

Really? The fart app line? Even the fart apps look better/polished on iOS.

[tanjiajun_34]

....I can see where you are coming from. Android. app > *work done* > press home button and you are out. It is entirely different , and better, on Windows Phone.

what?..... That is just minimizing the app 0.o? What I mean is the ability to hold down home button then swipe off the application you don't want. Not needing to go in to exit it.

WP7 doesn't need to toggle wifi and stuff anyway. WP phones has proper battery usage anyway. And you don't need to close apps, they don't "run" in the background using power.

Actually I feel my Mozart is weaker than my Galaxy S...... Well maybe because of 1500mAh vs 1300mAh.... I normally just listen to music and the mozart does not last as long....

Really? The fart app line? Even the fart apps look better/polished on iOS.

Agree.... No matter what MS fans or Google fans I have to admit iOS has the best collection for me.