official Windows 8 Consumer Preview Discussion

[scumdogmillionaire]

Print is now exposed via the Devices charm. So you only have one place to look for all Metro apps (similar to how Search, Share, and Settings now have common entry points so you don't have to hunt around or remember where each app put them).

Thanks, Brandon. I assumed that was the case, but I only see "Second screen" in there. No printer, not even the XPS printer.

[NEVER85]

Anyone have a weird issue with the new bootloader? With the old one, all I had to do was select an OS and voila, it boots up. With the new one, when I select Windows 7, the computer RESTARTS, THEN loads Windows 7. That seems kinda....off.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

We get this at the same time, but we've got dual connection from another colony, so one connection was up at 9 :p

This is our inherent limitations... LOL!!

[BetaAddict]

Been playing with the CP for half hour now. Still getting used to the UI charm bar, lack of the start button, and new shortcuts, so I'm going to reserve judgement on that for another day or two. Overall, I don't see any reason to go back to Win7 at least on a stability or performance-wise as I have been able to install all of my normal programs that I use without using compatibility mode or anything. I'm loving the metro apps. Some of them are pretty simply, but the finance and weather apps is amazing. There is definitely potential to see really good ones as we near closer to RC and RTM.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Thanks, Brandon. I assumed that was the case, but I only see "Display" in there. No printer, not even the XPS printer.

Do you see it in IE? I know that it supports print. Mail, however, may not yet. As was said this morning, the apps are in an "earlier" preview state right now.

[scumdogmillionaire]

On the plus side you don't see ads in Messenger anymore ;)

[Zain Adeel]

HEY!!.. POSTING FROM CP!..

first things first.. WHERE IS THE PC SETTINGS APP??? :s :s :s

I cant find it..

I wana change the settings and stuff. is it even there?

[Skyfrog]

Stop reading posts from the same 4-5 people and it clears up bunches. :/

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061044-rate-the-windows-8-consumer-preview/

[scumdogmillionaire]

Do you see it in IE? I know that it supports print. Mail, however, may not yet. As was said this morning, the apps are in an "earlier" preview state right now.

Negative :( Just "Second screen" in there, too.

EDIT: Other devices eventually showed up in IE. That's a start! Not sure why they didn't show the first 5 times after you posted to try it in IE.

Will these apps get updated during the CP, or is this it? I can deal with most everything, except not printing. No POP3 is kind of disappointing.

And is there no "favorites" in immersive IE?

[Zain Adeel]

nevermind.. found it..

its not only accessible from the charms..

I wish I could pin it.

[beanboy89]

I've now gotten Client x64 installed in VIrtualBox. Like with Server, the only issue is the graphics driver: "Windows cannot initialize the device driver for this hardware. (Code 37)." Anyone know what's going on here with VirtualBox? I'd love to be able to full screen Windows 8 and test it like that, but I'm limited to 1024x768.

Figured it out! http://www.mstechpages.com/2011/09/17/set-custom-resolution-in-virtualbox-for-windows-8/

[Matt Sharpe]

OK I have been using this for a few hours now and I really wanted to give it a chance but many aspects are just breathtakingly bad. Here are a few that spring to mind:

• No Windows Phone integration that I can find.
  
• Music and Pictures apps are horrifically clunky and particularly the Music app has almost zero functionality compared to WMP or even Zune.
  
• Some "Pieces of UI" (can't think of a better term than that) once dismissed seem impossible to get back e.g. a Download in IE, the Accounts pane in Mail or the Add account pane in People.
  
• Where's the list of online-only MSN contacts? Not to mention video chat. I keep wanting to ctrl-tab to my next conversation.
  

On top of that I am struggling to enjoy the UI, it seems so huge and chunky that functionality has just been dropped left right and centre in an attempt to keep the apps clean-looking.

Finally I am gutted that my Creative X-Fi seems unusable as the Win7 drivers don't install properly. This isn't Microsoft's fault but it added to the overall negative experience so far.

I hope these can all be cleaned up but meanwhile I am left with a pretty crap PC experience and to be honest it doesn't bode well in my opinion. Shame as I was almost starting to get excited!

[encarta]

I can't even find the words to describe this abomination. Looks like MS fired the whole UX team instead of marketing. What were they thinking!?

[Rigby]

Instead the 5 votes giving it a perfect score do represent the majority of Windows users? That's a very interesting view of things you've got going on there.

Also this is Neowin, full of nerds and hardcore Windows fans who would defend it to their dying breath. If its doing that badly here I'm sure it is safe to say that the general public is not going to care for it at all. I believe this is going to be Microsoft's biggest flop since MS Bob.

[Ci7]

That sounds like a "You're holding it wrong" solution. If I want to shut my computer off I should be able to and easily. It took way too long for me to find something so simple as a shutdown toggle and I'm a software developer what hope does the average joe have.

It seems so silly to me that something so basic as turning your computer off needs to be defended. It's like you're under a Microsoft spell or ... dare I say ... reality distortion field?

i guess fastest ready would be to place cmd file on desktop with shutdown command script :)

[PGHammer]

*sigh* Why do people keep saying the same thing over and over about hitting start and just typing? It's like no one even tried to do it in Win8 and they think it doesn't work the same when it does. You CAN just hit winkey and type a program name then hit enter to launch it!!!! What extra step are people talking about?

And in Win8 the taskbar now exteneds to multi-monitors, If you use 2 or 3 or w/e then extend it to all of them and pin apps to it then don't even use the start screen, lots of taskbar space to pin away right there imo.

GP007 - it's that *comfortable shoe* issue.

The folks doing the most complaining got so used to Windows 7's Start menu (despite its Vista ancestry), they give any alternative short shrift.

The new QuickTask menu (right-click in lower left corner) actually *has* most of the stuff that was in Windows 7's Start menu; even nicer, it includes a few items it lacked, such as a separate elevated (Admin) Command Prompt. (QuickTask is new.)

[micro]

*sigh* Why do people keep saying the same thing over and over about hitting start and just typing? It's like no one even tried to do it in Win8 and they think it doesn't work the same when it does. You CAN just hit winkey and type a program name then hit enter to launch it!!!! What extra step are people talking about?

And in Win8 the taskbar now exteneds to multi-monitors, If you use 2 or 3 or w/e then extend it to all of them and pin apps to it then don't even use the start screen, lots of taskbar space to pin away right there imo.

Hit winkey and type "device manager" and hit enter

or how about folder options?

Requires extra steps where as before it as 1 unified step.

[drlacus]

The worst thing is this:

Sorry, sign-in isn't supported in your region at this time! Xbox games, music, video.

But xbox live IS AVAILABLE in Hungary! Now what?

[Vice]

i guess fastest ready would be to place cmd file on desktop with shutdown command script :)

(not at you, just the situation)

[The_Decimator]

Got home about an hour ago. In the middle of making a bootable USB for the 32-bit version & 64-bit version just finished downloading.

[tuneslover]

Amazing :D ....... I'm just loving it :D

[Guest glyfz]

True.

No it's not true.

[Tharp Daddy]

Is it possible to change which email notifications appear on the tile for the mail app? I have two accounts managed through it, but i would only like to see notifications from one of them on it.

[Ci7]

*sniped*

(not at you, just the situation)

rather awkward situation i know LOL

[bbfc_uk]

Installed this on my MacBook Pro and it's running fine, except that the brightness keeps going down (using integrated Intel HD graphics). Anyone else experiencing this, and know how to correct it? I've updated the drivers using Windows Update but it does not do anything.