Former LAPD officer goes over the edge

[theyarecomingforyou]

The worst part about the mis- identification is that hes reported to be in a Nissan Titan, not a Toyota Tacoma like they shot up.

Go Go LA cops, typical government corruption at work.

Well, they at least got the colour right so they're probably up for promotion.

[SupportGeek]

Incompetence not corruption.

No reason it cant be both. Considering the BOLO basically details nothing but that he was escaping a shootout with police, armed and dangerous, and the truck make model and colour. Only more information is accessible by digging for it.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

No reason it cant be both. Considering the BOLO basically details nothing but that he was escaping a shootout with police, armed and dangerous, and the truck make model and colour. Only more information is accessible by digging for it.

The BOLO given said make and model on their laptop inside the squad car. I would say it is more incompetence than corruption and the officers that shot up the wrong truck should be suspended. They either misread the BOLO or the Make/Model of the truck.

[FunkyMike]

The BOLO given said make and model on their laptop inside the squad car. I would say it is more incompetence than corruption and the officers that shot up the wrong truck should be suspended. They either misread the BOLO or the Make/Model of the truck.

So they miss read the mark and model .. okay fair enough. Then they "don't" acquire visual confirmation BUT know that there are 2 occupants. They start going for headshots from behind for both of the occupants. ... Do you see what I am doing here?

And this isn't the only blue car that got shot up today. There is a kill order out for this guy.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

So they miss read the mark and model .. okay fair enough. Then they acquire visual confirmation BUT know that there are 2 occupants. They start going for headshots from behind for both of the occupants. ... Do you see what I am doing here?

And this isn't the only blue car that got shot up today. There is a kill order out for this guy.

Yes I see but the Police have to be held to higher standards. If there was a Kill order out then I would consider that to be corruption. A cop is not the Judge/jury and executioner. This guy still is entitled to his day in court.

[SierraSonic]

So they miss read the mark and model .. okay fair enough. Then they "don't" acquire visual confirmation BUT know that there are 2 occupants. They start going for headshots from behind for both of the occupants. ... Do you see what I am doing here?

And this isn't the only blue car that got shot up today. There is a kill order out for this guy.

This guy wont get his day in court, I am willing to bet that if this guy arranges to be brought in by proxy he will still somehow have "complications" that result in his death before anything more can be said.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

^ Maybe they will do a slow chase like with OJ. :/

[FunkyMike]

Yes I see but the Police have to be held to higher standards. If there was a Kill order out then I would consider that to be corruption. A cop is not the Judge/jury and executioner. This guy still is entitled to his day in court.

You are correct and sadly like SierraSonic mentions it might never happen. It is sad on what he did, but it does seem like he could do a lot more damage being alive and in a court room.

There was a similar case like that not a while ago about some FBI guy who went missing. A search was conducted and after a month his body was found not too far away from his home.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Sometimes these whack jobs commit suicide.

[trag3dy]

So he's like...a real life Punisher? We thought it was cool in the movies but when it's actually happening?

[theyarecomingforyou]

Scratch my earlier comment - apparently he was driving a grey Nissan. So not only did they get the make and model wrong but the colour too. They should be locked up for attempted murder.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Scratch my earlier comment - apparently he was driving a grey Nissan. So not only did they get the make and model wrong but the colour too. They should be locked up for attempted murder.

Not a good time to be an LA Cop. I wonder how long it will be before the Chief gets canned? Mark Thurman screwed up less than this.

[theyarecomingforyou]

Not a good time to be an LA Cop. I wonder how long it will be before the Chief gets canned? Mark Thurman screwed up less than this.

Well, the department needs to be thoroughly investigated - if the assertions about his dismissal are true then the way he was treated was disgusting. However, in absolutely no way does that give him the right to take other people's lives.

American policing is completely out of hand, as demonstrated by the shootings of completely unrelated vehicles. People need to be able to trust in the police and if they commit crimes then they should be dealt with harshly. Obviously some departments are worse than others and the LAPD seems to be one of the worst. But the idea that the police are operating on a shoot-on-sight policy is disturbing, whether it's official or not. No matter the severity of the crimes involved the perpetrator should always be brought in alive and only shot as an absolute last resort.

[linsook]

They just ran another truck off the road and shot it up. Wtf is going on??

[shakey]

You clearly are for innocent people being killed, as you stated that "something has to be done", that the only thing that makes a difference is the "loss of life" and that the "only way" is by going "outside the law". I've read plenty of ridiculous statements in my time but that is certainly one of the worst offenders. That's the sort of insanity promoted by gun advocates, with the notion that the government has to be overthrown if it is considered to have stepped out of line. The answer to society's problems is not to go around killing people.

Me understanding the harsh reality of life and being "Okay with murdering innocents" is 2 totally different areas. I'm not for killing anything, but I still want and eat meat. Doesn't mean I want the animals dead. There is a huge difference. Just because sometimes bad things must be done, doesn't mean that people want them done. But in reality, the line between right and wrong, is only drawn depending on the situation at hand. It can easily change depending on what is happening. If you don't understand that, you are blinding yourself to life.

The fix to a corrupt government isn't through the corrupt governments laws and rules. That is why there is always a revolution when a country gets bad enough. If most governmental problems could be fixed with talking.... we wouldn't have wars. The harsh reality through life, that you will/should learn, is that sometimes, bad things must happen for the greater good. Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong. It's called life. We make arbitrary rights and wrongs, depending on the times and society. Those change ever so often. Murder is bad, but OK during war.... Murder is bad, except against criminals.... Murder is bad, unless the person is already in severe pain and it's their wish to die..... There are many times when the bad choice is the "right" choice.

If we use your ideology... If you ever thought 1 country in a war was fighting for the right thing, then you must also be for the death of innocents. Because in every war, innocents die. Silly when put like that huh?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Well, the department needs to be thoroughly investigated - if the assertions about his dismissal are true then the way he was treated was disgusting. However, in absolutely no way does that give him the right to take other people's lives.

American policing is completely out of hand, as demonstrated by the shootings of completely unrelated vehicles. People need to be able to trust in the police and if they commit crimes then they should be dealt with harshly. Obviously some departments are worse than others and the LAPD seems to be one of the worst. But the idea that the police are operating on a shoot-on-sight policy is disturbing, whether it's official or not. No matter the severity of the crimes involved the perpetrator should always be brought in alive and only shot as an absolute last resort.

If you think this is out of hand, The Obama Admin is starting to use Drones on US Citizens.

[FlintyV]

If you think this is out of hand, The Obama Admin is starting to use Drones on US Citizens.

They've already done that. Anwar al-Aulaqi.

Thought I'm not sure why it's a big deal that they're being used on US citizens. They've been used on many nationalities for a while now and they didn't have to clarify why they're allowed to.

Isn't as though US lives are worth more.

[theyarecomingforyou]

Me understanding the harsh reality of life and being "Okay with murdering innocents" is 2 totally different areas. I'm not for killing anything, but I still want and eat meat. Doesn't mean I want the animals dead. There is a huge difference. Just because sometimes bad things must be done, doesn't mean that people want them done. But in reality, the line between right and wrong, is only drawn depending on the situation at hand. It can easily change depending on what is happening. If you don't understand that, you are blinding yourself to life.

As I highlighted previously, your statement shows that you condone his actions. To think that murdering people is necessary to expose his unfair dismissal is ridiculous.

If you think this is out of hand, The Obama Admin is starting to use Drones on US Citizens.

Obama is as bad as Bush, there is no doubt about that. He might not have officially started any wars but the drone programme operates in countries without any legal authority and without any proper scrutiny. I mean, why declare war when you can simply kill anybody you want without have to do so? Through the CIA he supplied arms to the Libyan rebels, which overthrew a government - those arms then flooded into Mali, which turned the country into a terrorist hotspot. Military action is taking place there (though it's not called a war) and is likely to continue for a while. And the CIA has done a similar thing with Syria, except now they're starting to realise that the rebels might not actually be any better than the existing government.

Obama promised change but he's just Bush 2.0 - he basically has the same policies but he's a bit smarter about implementing them. He has continued the United States' appalling foreign policy, which is one of the reasons the country is so widely despised. And now it looks like Iraq is flaring up again and Afghanistan could follow with the withdrawal of troops.

[shakey]

As I highlighted previously, your statement shows that you condone his actions. To think that murdering people is necessary to expose his unfair dismissal is ridiculous.

It's not just about his unfair dismissal though. It's about the corruption within the law and how it needs to stop. It can't be stopped by trying to use the law. He already tried that. What he is doing, is what every nation has had done when the law is corrupt and no longer works. It isn't good, it isn't right, but it is something that sometimes must be done. The murdering he is doing, is bad, but it is the only thing that will wake this nation up and spur it into action. Whether that action leads towards the corruption ending, or towards more cover ups, is up to history. But when the government has failed, all legal options have no effect, and the abuse continues to happen, the only options left are those that will most likely put you in the worst of light. But sometimes, it takes a sacrifice to make something happen.

[theyarecomingforyou]

It's not just about his unfair dismissal though. It's about the corruption within the law and how it needs to stop. It can't be stopped by trying to use the law. He already tried that. What he is doing, is what every nation has had done when the law is corrupt and no longer works.

He is not a nation; he is an individual and individuals can't go around murdering people when things don't work out how they want. If you can't accept that what he's doing is absolutely unacceptable - not just in my opinion but according to society and the laws that govern it - then I have no interest in discussing this any further with you.

It scares me that you think exactly like Anders Breivik. :|

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

As I highlighted previously, your statement shows that you condone his actions. To think that murdering people is necessary to expose his unfair dismissal is ridiculous.

Obama is as bad as Bush, there is no doubt about that. He might not have officially started any wars but the drone programme operates in countries without any legal authority and without any proper scrutiny. I mean, why declare war when you can simply kill anybody you want without have to do so? Through the CIA he supplied arms to the Libyan rebels, which overthrew a government - those arms then flooded into Mali, which turned the country into a terrorist hotspot. Military action is taking place there (though it's not called a war) and is likely to continue for a while. And the CIA has done a similar thing with Syria, except now they're starting to realise that the rebels might not actually be any better than the existing government.

Obama promised change but he's just Bush 2.0 - he basically has the same policies but he's a bit smarter about implementing them. He has continued the United States' appalling foreign policy, which is one of the reasons the country is so widely despised. And now it looks like Iraq is flaring up again and Afghanistan could follow with the withdrawal of troops.

Well lets not turn this into another Bush Bashing Thread. Bush did not start any wars, if you recall the US was attacked on 9.11.2001. The Intel that the Congress had was the same as Bush. The Congress OK'd the invasion of Iraq. Now back to the OP, it seems that every law enforcement person is looking for this nut job. They found his burned out truck. This guy is really over the edge. California should ask for help from the National Guard.

[linsook]

Well lets not turn this into another Bush Bashing Thread. Bush did not start any wars, if you recall the US was attacked on 9.11.2001. The Intel that the Congress had was the same as Bush. The Congress OK'd the invasion of Iraq. Now back to the OP, it seems that every law enforcement person is looking for this nut job. They found his burned out truck. This guy is really over the edge. California should ask for help from the National Guard.

'But history will look back, and I'm fully prepared to accept any mistakes that history judges to my administration because the president makes the decisions, the president has to take the responsibility.' -Bush; The Second Bush-Kerry Presidential Debate, October 8, 2004.

QUESTION: What did Iraq have to do with it?

BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?

QUESTION: The attack on the World Trade Center.

BUSH: Nothing. Except it's part of and nobody has suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a Iraq the lesson of September 11th is take threats before they fully materialize, Ken. Nobody's ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.

Presidential news conference, August 21, 2006.

I guess Chris Dorner is taking a play out of the foreign policy war-book. Armed intervention and preemptive attacks on threats before they materialize.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

This will be my last post about Bush, Both he and his Father's private stuff was hacked today BTW. I said that Congress authorized The War in Iraq. You want to Blame Bush go right ahead but keep some of that Blame for The Congress/

[linsook]

This will be my last post about Bush, Both he and his Father's private stuff was hacked today BTW. I said that Congress authorized The War in Iraq. You want to Blame Bush go right ahead but keep some of that Blame for The Congress/

I just quoted the man.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

I know